Good evening ladies and gentlemen,

I was writting an essay and found myself something curious about one of my classes, its an experiment made by the famous film-maker Lev Kuleshov. I would like you guys to check it out if you want without investigating about it at first: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gGl3LJ7vHc Comment what you felt and such.

P.S. I love sidescrolling.

EDIT: Thank you very much gentlemen for your responses, and thank you DavidSarif since it was something I might have skipped in mentioning. All in all, its something worth thinking about in relation to modern movie audiences.

...Oh that's right, good luck in the giveaway.

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this was a very weird video

1 decade ago
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Indeed it is, but what did you feel after every 'cut'?

1 decade ago
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well curious and bored at the same time , i was expecting a screaming face at the end or something because they usually add that in movies without sound - and im sure that movie didnt have any sound or else my sound is destroyed.

1 decade ago
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Interesting, thank you good sir.

1 decade ago
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ItΒ΄s my pleasure.

1 decade ago
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Is "creeped out" a feeling?

Edit: looked it up now. It didn't have the described effect on me. Apparently I'm dead inside from looking at too many creepy stuff.

1 decade ago
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Yes, that is another effect. Internet has probably caused that to us.

1 decade ago
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indeed XD

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Actually, the imagery immediately reminded me of stuff like Un Chien Andalou or Begotten, so I was kinda primed for being creeped out. I wasn't really watching it as I would watch a "regular" short movie.

Somebody really should run the same experiment with a modern video, shot in full color and with contemporary cinematic techniques. I'm sure a modern audience would respond to something like that in pretty much the same way the first audiences responded to Kuleshov's movie back then.

Edit: Also, it was quite obvious to me the shots of the man's face were always the same. It probably would not be so obvious to the original audiences.

1 decade ago
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this^

1 decade ago
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Definitely! I like your thought on how something so simple was drastically changed nowadays.

1 decade ago
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"Drastic" is a well-chosen word.

The video is supposed to act as a cultural experiment, but the cultural landscape has changed drastically since it was shot. Initially, B&W imagery was the norm, and the audiences would not get stuck up on it. It would just be the neutral background on which the game takes place.

Today, B&W is totally out of place. It is practically reserved for screamers, parodies and hipstering. The change in the medium is so great that it totally drowns out the content. I don't think you'll find many who will respond "as intended". I also don't think you should write this up as the Internet desensitivizing the new generation. It seems like the obvious answer, but until you make a modern adaptation of the experiment, you can't be sure that's what's at play here.

1 decade ago
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It is still a yet worthy experiment to do, for me it didn't matter if the results were the appropriate ones, but to know about the moderns opinions.

1 decade ago
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Some of you fine gentlemen have quite the keen eyes I see.

1 decade ago
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I feel blessed o.O

1 decade ago
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Oh? Do tell.

1 decade ago
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confused at first.

1 decade ago
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And later on?

1 decade ago
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i saw that the actor's face was changing a bit, for every scene.

1 decade ago
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Interesting, well try scrolling back and forth to check his face, you might get surprised.

1 decade ago
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yes, already read the wikipedia page :D

1 decade ago
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Nothing... what am I supposed to feel?
I noticed the dead body has a white hand and a black hand...

1 decade ago
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You are free to search it, you still have quite the eye though.

1 decade ago
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wow, the video kinda scary, i thought it was setting up for a screamer or something

how i felt?, really wierd, i dont know maybe like the guy was hiding something and it was related with what was shown

edit: now that i looked it up, apparently it was right, i always felt the guy was changing his face depending on what he saw.

1 decade ago
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Aha! But were you hididng something related to what was shown?

1 decade ago
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well, to be honest, i did felt that the guy was changing his face, but i diidnt mentioned it at first because i thought that i was just going crazy and that he actually didint changed his face, so i did not told it.

1 decade ago
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Keen eye good sir.

1 decade ago
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I'm curious. Why woman was happy. Why kid died. And that mans face...

1 decade ago
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Ah, the internet...

1 decade ago
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Did not feel anything to be honest, but thought it was the same expression each time - maybe I put too much thought into it, as I could not discern why the three images alternated with the face - seemed there was no purpose...

1 decade ago
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Yes, putting too much thought into it can make you not notice, but there is a deeper purpose.

1 decade ago
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It was hard to concentrate with this staring at me.

1 decade ago
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:D

1 decade ago
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Don't be silly kind sir.

1 decade ago
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I was terrified it was a screamer the entire time.

1 decade ago
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Yes, a common feeling yet not the intended unfortunately.

1 decade ago
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same for me, especially when i saw the dead body XD

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I literally started laughing after the second appearance of the guy. Dunno why, it just seemed really stupid and out of place for me.

I don't know how I'm supposed to feel since I haven't research the thing yet, but I'm quite interested. Those kind of experiments usually do not work on me though :)

1 decade ago
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Oh laughter? That's quite intriguing. Search it up if you wish.

1 decade ago
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Yeah, I just looked it up and it seems interesting, especially since I love learning about video editing tricks.

I can also see how the 'correct' way would work, although for me, the scenes look too much out of place. Maybe if I'd watch the video a couple of times without not knowing how I'm supposed to feel, I'd start to feel it as well. Watching it for the first time however, the video was too weird for me to take seriously. I'm a weird person though and, as I've said, those kind of things don't really work on me :)

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I've learnt about the Kuleshov effect but did not remember the footage. In my opinion the thory is valid but this footage isn't quite the most able to demonstrate it. To demonstrate it you have to show different combinations to different audiences.

ex :

audience 1 sees facial expression, then the meal.

audience 2 sees facial expression, then the dead girl.

audience 3 sees facial expression, then the "sexy girl".

then you ask each audience what they felt about the guys facial expression.

edit : for those who find that weird, this is what the kuleshov effect is about : (from wikipedia)

Kuleshov edited together a short film in which a shot of the expressionless face of Tsarist matinee idol Ivan Mosjoukine was alternated with various other shots (a plate of soup, a girl in a coffin, a woman on a divan). The film was shown to an audience who believed that the expression on Mosjoukine's face was different each time he appeared, depending on whether he was "looking at" the plate of soup, the girl in the coffin, or the woman on the divan, showing an expression of hunger, grief or desire, respectively. Actually the footage of Mosjoukine was the same shot repeated over and over again. Vsevolod Pudovkin (who later claimed to have been the co-creator of the experiment) described in 1929 how the audience "raved about the acting... the heavy pensiveness of his mood over the forgotten soup, were touched and moved by the deep sorrow with which he looked on the dead child, and noted the lust with which he observed the woman. But we knew that in all three cases the face was exactly the same."

1 decade ago
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Yes exactly, though it was just tempting for me to show the entirety of it, and yet the results were close enough.

1 decade ago
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yeah, I must admit I continue to feel a difference between the facial expressions even now, so I guess it also works the way you put it

1 decade ago
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me too.

1 decade ago
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me too.

1 decade ago
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Nothing. But I'm bad at reading facial expressions.

1 decade ago
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Don't put too much thought into it.

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I can't say that I felt anything of note...maybe a lil boredom once ALL the images started repeating, at which point my focus started wondering to the smallest details in each image.

edit: Hey, wait a minute...am I gonna die in 7 days?

1 decade ago
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Another important factor that film making has been fighting against, the way the audience looses concentration on the actual film, thank you good sir!

1 decade ago
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nope that dude face was always the same for me i didnt notice any difference in his expression...

1 decade ago
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OK. That was a strange video. Really really strange or it just was strange to me, don't know. But that makes me investigate this effect and learn about it. Thank you for making me learn something.

1 decade ago
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Glad you liked it kind sir.

1 decade ago
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this is a bit late, but it didn't really connect think about it in terms of the actor changing his expression for different things, more that all these things were in the same room and it attempting to build a short artistic story out of it. Interesting to read the actual purpose for it though

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I'm glad you're interested, never too late to find about these things.

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Closed 1 decade ago by PaulBC.