Long story short, I live in South East Asia, or more specifically Singapore, and for some unknown reason Steam decides to start region locking games.

It doesn't make any sense since

  • it is the exact same price as the US store
  • it is not censored (except the low violence version of South Park)
  • or that no other retailer is screwing us like this.

Guess I will spend my Steam wallet by buying keys from now on. Even when it is the exact same price. 29 keys = $60 but without region lock.

My guess is that Valve will soon start rolling out region locks for every region even if the price stays the same. Why they do it, I don't know.

Should we be worried? Or just close one eye and switch retailers?

Reddit thread

Some of region locked games

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atlest you don't pay the highest prices in steam like my country i barely can buy game :( with the salaries in my country

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i know that feeling

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+1 And not every game, only certain AAA titles.

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yeah more than 60% of my games are bundled

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respectable dev companies always region locks their game because in countries like ru discount can be 80% and thats alot of money lost for them is not steam decision but the dev that requests for region locks

thief and borderlands presequel are not region locked that heavily :P

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Publishers, not devs

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yea i agree EU should have more regions or smt because with 190€ (average Romanian monthly income) i can imagine that buying games at full price is just ludicrous

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Isn't it more than 190 Euro? But I agree, buying a AAA game at release here would cost you(an average Joe/Ion) a lot of money that you could buy food for 1 week with, if you don't really eat a lot though.

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Not Valve, but publishers of each of those games (Ubi and 2K in this case).

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the block some because valiant hearts and dark souls PTE (russian lock)

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And Square Enix.

They blocked Thief and Tomb Raider...

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Only because valve actively promotes region locking to maximise their own profits.

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Source?

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Won't be surprised if Brunei gets the same lock one day.

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You and the reddit thread only gave examples of mainstream games from big publishers. What about indie games? Do they get region locked too? If not, then it's the fault of publishers.

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GMG, Gamersgate and Humble Store do not region lock these games, but it might still be the publishers' fault I guess.

No indie games are blocked, for now.

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Why would they want to region lock? Isn't that bad for business?

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not quite people can buy cheaper games from that region and so they lose money and because they are greedy they lock games so you need to pay more for them

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The prices are the same for South East Asia and Latin America, so that's why it's so annoying.

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The funny thing is that publishers are always greedy, but when people exploit the fuck out of them is totally fine and legit.

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+1 to this

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They're the digital equivalent to import taxes.

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Whats that plugin showing you the lowest price? Seems interesting and useful.

I dont really agree with region locking, also I dont agree with the fact that they are setting the same price in € and dollars, juicing money from Europe.
Im from Czech republic, our currency are Crowns, 1 dollar=about 20 Crowns, 1€= about 27 Crowns - SEE THE DIFFERENCE?

If game cost 60 bucks, its 1200 Crowns, but if game costs 60€ its 1620 (81 dollars..'nuff said, Pirate Bay, here I go again). Fuck that, thats why Im pirating games that have same price in € and dollars

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Enhanced Steam.

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Thanks and to that region locking. I think that the Germany is suffering worst. Blocking a lot of games with nazis and removing any gore from the game, maybe their not the only country, dont know.

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Huh. Odd, I bought a retailer game from my shop for South Park.
The price is a hella lot cheaper.
If south park was 60 dollars,
it would be 180 ringgit. I bought it for 120 ringgit though. (40 dollars)
I gotten the australian version though. DAMN CENSORSHIP!

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You probably got the Singapore version, censored like Australia.

And didn't expect to see you here.

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As a fellow Singaporean, I need to clarify that this thread certainly qualifies as FUD, it has been known for a few years that some AAA games are region-locked on release, one unlisted include Hitman Absolution.

As mentioned, some AAA games are indeed region locked, however, discounted prices are the same be it for the US store version or the Asia version. One will only be affected if one trades games actively.

You need to know that some games may contain content deemed sensitive to certain countries, like tropico for example.

There is NO Singapore region lock, but rather an Asia classification.

Stop the FUD, not a single indie game is region locked.

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If you really want to complain, at least find some legit reason how Steam is actually screwing people up. For example ask those living in New Zealand about Steam prices, that is the actual screwing of people, not something trivia like this

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The main issue is with price, why am I paying the same price for a "crippled" product? Yes, it is not severely crippled, but that still doesn't make sense.

While your second point might be true, I don't see why Borderlands or Assasin's Creed need to have region locks since they are uncensored and are definitely not politically sensitive.

Yes, people living in New Zealand and Australia are getting screwed. We certainly do not want to end up like them do we? But that's exactly what's going to happen if we remain silent on this issue. One thing leads to another and next thing you know we are paying more. Just ask the Europeans.

Changed the title for clarity.

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Did it a few seconds before your comment.

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another noob who dont understand region locking

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So what exactly is region locking?

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go to steamdb.info and serch "onlyallowrunincountries" this is real region lock

"AllowCrossRegionTradingAndGifting No" this is lock for activation, but u can play in any place in the world

DONT READ USELESS STEAM NOTICE!

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example
http://store.steampowered.com/app/236430/?cc=sg link from reddit topic
Sub ID 39747
AllowCrossRegionTradingAndGifting No - only lock for activation
u got ROW game if u buy it directly from steam store to acc
in reddit alot noobs(

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There is no need to panic: games sold in your region are not region locked - they are just cursed with "AllowCrossRegionTradingAndGifting-No". After you add a game to your library - it's no different from a row/ww one.
And meanwhile Ru/Cis customers have to live with the fact that quite a few of their games are useless outside ru/cis countries - this is a real region lock.

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onlyallowrunincountries - this is a real region lock
Ru/Cis - dont mean anything

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i wrote "ru/cis customers", not "ru/cis tagged games".

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Im not sure on specifics (about asia or each of those games) but those are the common other 'reasons' besides a game being banned for some content:

-Ping, lag, internet connection. Some publishers seens to avoid any possible hickups with its online features. Surely just few of the games listed have any online feature but that could be related.

-TAXES. They way certain countries tax digital goods, wich i guess steam reverts to the publishers as well. Not sure on the logic behind it existing on retail cheaper then a digital version as some listed here, but some funky taxing laws are surely behind the scenes. Here in Brazil for a long time we counted on imported games that weren't supposed to be sold around here, that is, retail stores going out and buying the games directly(that caused then to be more expensive in return).

-Specific 'possible offensive' content. Stuff in some level or such thing. Wich generally ties to next:

-Plans for a future localized version

-Other obscure specific laws, wich generally explain some localized versions as well. Like being obligated to refund.

Theres one more possible culprit that im only guessing, just a theory...

Is that games more and more nowadays collect lots of data that is sent back to the devs, helping then understand player behaviour and such to improve the very game, sequels and even valuable information that serves for other future games.
Not sure if its hard to filter the data between markets or if simply they're not focusing on your market yet.
Could also be about the strain on their servers used to collect this very data.

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Can I still play the game if I buy within these countries then move outside it?

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Yes. AllowCrossRegionTradingAndGifting-No is only an activation block.

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atleast it's 60 dollars for you, AAA games are 60€ for me.

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Derisory Lee ordered it because Singaporeans reported him for scamming. He's been scamming since 2004.

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You just noticed this? It's been like this for months for SEA. I got excited for a while too because I thought it would mean we would get games cheaper. Good thing they are only activation restrictions. You can still play them anywhere (for now).

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They are going to introduce new currencies, can't wait for cheaper prices. But adding region locks this early doesn't make sense.

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As in pay in SGD? Who told you that?

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Quite some time ago on Steam Dev Day.

More info here

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