This is a really nice idea. I think poppers should have some join requirements as well, though. Otherwise people might just become a popper to join giveaways meant for cherries and then more re-rolling would ensue. (asdasdf repeatedly saying poppers and cherries in a sentence makes me feel slightly dirty D:)
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This would depend on the demand to those positions. I doubt that there would any rush to be seen but in case couple measures could be taken.
At the creation of the group, where I would consider the biggest rush to happen, there could be a requirement to do a giveaway after joining. All in all, this kind of mandatory giveaway creation sounds generally bad so I think I would instead prefer to keep myself as the only popper in the beginning. Once the dust has settled, those positions would be opened for everybody else interested.
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I would like to join this group as potential cherry and popper.
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Eh, whether or not I'd join this group would be based upon what games the poppers would offer. :\
I am currently almost at 900 entries with not a single win. But I'm not sure how desperate I am yet- cause I still tend to be picky with what giveaways I enter. :P
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It is good that people will not jump into every possible win but only for those they are interested in playing. Cannot promise anything for others, but I personally do not gift indie bundles nor keys.
My gifts are likely to be from regular sales (daily, week, weekend etc.) so it could be anything depending what Valve throws at us.
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Nice one, I would like to hear if a group like this will be made.
Also, I would recommand having a little chat with a person before he's invited. To check if he is capable of reading and typing in English, being a free loader and/or ungrateful, etc...
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I have already a plan for this that includes a little reading test for cherries. It will be beneficial for both sides and does not require huge amount of strain.
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Surely there will be because by setting any limit, one must leave a group of people out. People entering in will be evaluated case by case.
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Nice idea you got there.
I have been thinking of making a group with unique rules just like this one, i haven't done anything yet as i'm currently broke because of the summer sale, whenever i start working, hopefully i'll get to carry out the project further. I would be a popper in your group i don't mind the rules, though the cherry's rules could need some adjustments.
If you happen to go further with this i would like to be part of it, though it's going to take a while untill i start gifting out stuff (work awaits me in december, so it's still a good while). I would likely be innactive on the group untill then.
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If you have ideas regarding rules, please present them. I'm interested hearing different views on this topic, which is the reason I made this thread in the first place.
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Some of the stuff seems to have been addressed already, but one thing i noticed is the rule which leads to kicking cherries out of the group once they win. I think you should put in a month for cooldown for the winner untill they can re-apply again to the group. It's more than fair that way, it will force people to actually pick something they really want and not just anything!
And i would also add a new rule to the cherries department, something along the lines of:
-one/two legit win(s) outside the group and you can't apply/re-apply to the group, by legit i mean any giveaway that wasn't too obvious like shadowgrounds, faerie solitaire, dwarves. THis could be related to how much of a win it was perhaps or in terms of value.
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Oh and can you add all the poppers to admins in the group? So we can easily see who's a popper and who's a cherry. You can remove most of the admin powers from us as a sign of stability within the group, so no one ends up abusing it in anyway.
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How cherries will be invited in the future is still open. We'll return to this with poppers this later on. For now, it is not an urgent item.
Your second item is currently under discussion. Please contact me when you see me online and I'll send you the link. Also following people should have the link (if I'm not available): Crossbourne, Hexidemic, Hymie8, Thanatological and killergp123.
Admins powers and such will be dealt once group has been formed.
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-1 individual rules would make everything a h*ll of a lot more complicated and cause unnecessary re rolls.
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Depends on who are applying. Once data starts pouring in, I think a certain "standard" will soon form.
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Some peoples here are mistaking badly. We are quite a few people like me, with over 1500 entries and 0 win.
So reading people with like 4 win or 500 entries since their last won asking if they could qualify... You don't mesure how much some people are MUCH more unlucky than you.
BTW like the idea of this group ! Still have my golden precious cherry. And not entering to win at any price. I'm waiting for my Prince Charming
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With almost 300 games in your library, you will be a hard cherry to pop. But it is good that people enter to only those games they wish to play.
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i have entered more than 800 giveaways and have been on sg for 3 months so i think this group is good for people like me that have won nothng
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Bots are not allowed in SteamGifts.com. I will report each one I spot.
I am not certain what you mean by key abuse. If you mean people who stack keys from some limited page giveaway and then give them here, I frown upon it. I can understand getting that one and instead of using it yourself, giving it to others but having dozens of them taking means that dozens of people could not get theirs.
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Summary
Apply to group here.
Group has two positions: cherries and poppers. Cherries are the target of giveaways, poppers are the ones who create them. Cherries are picked on certain criteria.
Please comment and criticize this idea. Does it have serious flaws, would you change something and is there any need for this at all?
Expanding above
My previous experiences in trying to gift certain group of people had some troubles. Mainly it was people who entered even if they did not meet the requirements. I thought for a while different approaches how to solve this. I personally do not really like the group option, but it seems to be the best one that is available.
Group would have two positions. Cherries are the people I would aim to give gifts by creating giveaways. Poppers are people who would create these giveaways. Idea is to gather people who would be deemed unlucky or nice people deserving chance of winning. Cherries are selected by meeting certain criteria that are given below. One can apply multiple times.
Cherries' main purpose in group is to achieve Golden Kick of Luck which is gained by winning. Winner will then be kicked from the group to open position for the next one. I'm still uncertain would it be better to only count wins inside group or any win in the site.
Poppers are people who would like to gift people having some of the qualities met in cherries. I would place no limit to their numbers. One could use this group as temporary filter (join for a giveaway and then leave) or hang in back and gift when you feel like it. Before a wall of leecher accusations appear, I notify that I would be placing myself as popper.
Idea is to have quite loose structure with very little forced activity to prevent needless re-rolling in every giveaway themed for these people.
Cherries
Higher chance of entry by meeting mixture of following:
Lower chance of entry by meeting mixture of following:
Poppers
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