How We're Planning to Fix Bundle Keys and Contributor Values (Option #3)

i think option 2 is better but this would be better than option 1, perhaps both?

Good, but I don't think enough people would actually use the mass voting system, as it wouldn't be that beneficial to them.

"Of course, we would need to discuss a fair method of converting over the current contributor values into contributor points."
This is my only issue with this idea.

I dislike it, cause it's only beneficial to "mainstream" games lots of people want. Just 'cause lots of people want MW3 or BF3, doesn't mean it's a game I do want or would give away.

I like this but... it sounds like a really messy conversion and in the end the bundle keys will still be somewhat worthless.

Like this one best.

This option is much better than the other 2, as it encourages people to post giveaways for more popular games.

Uh...no for the first part. That's just silly to let people determine the value of games to solve the bundle key problem. It's obvious to know what needs to be valued at what already. The second part is interesting, but it would promote giving away a bunch of smaller items instead of a few bigger ones. You'd need to include more options like "how many were public/private/group?" and "average values of games given" to make it reasonable, which would just be more work for you and not even a necessary effort.

Option 1 makes the most sense out of the bunch.

It has potential, but it feels like 'trending'. I don't have much of an opinion as I can't provide any games for giveaways, but I do like that it gives incentive to giveaway a smaller, popular game, over say, Railworks.

I was a fan of the solution in the other thread about capping the value of bundle games based on other titles given away but that's just me.

Oh, I like this idea. I like it very much...except for the "community choice" part. Because let's be honest here, Skyrim would become worth like 200 points and everything else would be worth 5 tops.

My proposal: Contributor value is set to the point value of the giveaway at the time of its creation, multiplied by the number of copies in the giveaway. Current contributor score is set to a point value equal to the current dollar amount, rounded up.

By saving contributor points as their own integer, point values can change without affecting contributor scores.

We already have our wishlists on Steam. They are already pooled and listed by this site. So just use their information. There is no need for a separate voting system. Calculate their points based on where they are on the Steamgifts Wishlist.

This is my least favorite idea so far. Skyrim and Max Payne 3 are great and all, but I don't want a system that's going to disincentivize smaller, less mainstream games. As long as there's at least one person who's really excited about entering and winning a particular game, I don't think the crowd wisdom should dictate that that game wasn't worth much/anything.

Still I support the old #1 option of continuing with contributor values with better moderation and removing abused values...
To be hoenst this is the worst option of 3, also this is like a copy of playblink's unreliable/changing game value system.

Also there's no fair way to convert old value to new one in this since all values will be based on the game's worth at that current date.

You don't even need voting I can tell which games will get most votes: AAA titles which are newly released and really expensive like it might be Borderlands 2 now. But like a few months later those games will lose their value so there's no way to convert old values to this system in my opinion.

Actually what I liked most about SG and it's value/point system was it's reliability which follows the steam prices. In playblink you have no idea what contribution value you'll get for games u submit like it can be 5 points today and 2 points tomorrow...

• So I have to say I'm against this idea. It will just be useful for those who can buy AAA titles at once and will totally disregard users who like to share little indie games or cheap games with many copies..

I dislike this on the basis that a lot of the people, want to give away games they liked, in order to "promote" those games, or just think is unjustly disregarded by the most of the people. This system would discriminate the odd game you were fascinated with and you wondered why you don't know anyone who played it.

Instead of requiring users to vote for most wanted games, couldn't you base it on Steam wishlists or the number of points spent on similar giveaways? If you're trying to gauge the interest in certain titles, it feels like you've already got access to two sources of data which provide this. It feels like I'm already voting for the games I want by entering giveaways...

I think quantity has a quality all on its own. Even these "cheap games nobody wants" giveaways get over a hundred entries easy. And what's wrong with a relative abundance of them as long as they're actually getting entries from people who want them? Those of us who own them can still filter them just fine.

I think expensive games like Skyrim, MW3 etc. will always top the charts here, and this system would kind of screw those of us who can't afford hefty giveaways like that. Maybe there will be a few odd titles (like Fortix?) that will get a dissonant number of votes but by-and-large our wishlist looks a lot more expensive than some people can afford.

I know it isn't intended, but this will really send a message that money is what makes you important around here.

Interesting idea. But as I already said I think option 1 is better

I really dislike this option. I feel like it will dissuade people from giving away games that they really liked and want to share with the community in favor of games that will garner them the most points.

I still prefer option 1

We already have that wishlist feature.

And what would happen to giveaways created before this?

This option seems to be very interesting. So I prefer it.

Why not base the contributor points on the number of entries a giveaway gets ?

• More popular games will earn more points, without the need for voting.
• Any exploits involving low entry giveaways become much less effective.
• It encourages giving to the Steamgifts userbase as a whole, not some subset of it, because the less exclusive you make your giveaways, the more contributor points you will get from them.

i dont like it...

i like the contributor value as it is now. With the new bundle games value system that was announced its enough to fix the issue.