That is, who would do that?

atroxic (2 years ago)

I guess no one knows...

Wait for a GOTY edition :)

Suits

(2 years ago)

So, it'll be $1499.99?

N723

(2 years ago)

lol

the707guy

(2 years ago)

Mother of God.

Gloveslash

(2 years ago)

PPG113 (2 years ago)

Worth is subjective and as such changes for each person. However, I think the consensus or rather the majority of users here would agree that 1800 is far to much for the amount and type of content offered in the DLC.

It is indeed far too much, but there are a few miserable souls out there that would actually pay $1800 for that pack over time, or at least pay $1000 which was its sale price I believe? So on this earth with 6 - 7 billion people there are probably 3 - 5 people that would pay that much, meaning they will make like $5000 +, its not really about selling it to a lot of people just to the freaks who love the game, and they make more profit this way.

Phonix644

(2 years ago)

wbarton (2 years ago*)

I think I'd seen that figure bandied about before, but I thought it must be a joke or exaggeration. I just checked the store. What. The actual. Fuck.

KillerXtreme (2 years ago)

First I question who actually plays Railworks3, I'm amazed they made something as boring as running a train system a video game.. Then to tack on $1800 worth of DLC? Overkill much.. The game imo isn't worth the original price..

get a load of this scrub, haha doesn't understand real pro gaming.

Thelonias

(2 years ago)

Get a load of this troll, haha doesn't understand how to real pro trolling.

AvidWriter

(2 years ago)

Get a load of this idiot, haha doesn't understand what joking is

Makorus

(2 years ago)

Get a load these guys they don't know how to get loads.

mrlukecaptain

(2 years ago)

Bitch Please Yaoming Dah Fuq Did i just read ?

PenisCannon

(2 years ago)

wtf?

XorD

(2 years ago)

9gag much?

Mohs

(2 years ago)

It's a simulator, not a game.

Chris

(2 years ago)

It's boring, is what it is.

Caliostro

(2 years ago)

Its got steam achievements, so eventually I will run out of games to play and I'll play it.

Hikikomori

(2 years ago)

Tzell (2 years ago*)

Buy a real train instead!

XDDD +1 mate

MCVAGINA

(2 years ago)

+1

Gloveslash

(2 years ago)

I was thiking on post this +1 <3

lysergic

(2 years ago*)

+1

TheChristian

(2 years ago)

so much truth there..

qhalidx

(2 years ago)

Well a passenger car costs can cost around $1,300 if it is in bad condition so it is almost better to just buy your own rolling stock rather than put it down on Railworks.

WolfenVic

(2 years ago)

how bout a model train set ?

GringoDC

(2 years ago)

A starter set can cost are 200 up. If you were buying everything separately then the same amount for the DLC of Railworks could get you started with a basic circle. To do anything more amazing I suspect you might need another thousand for wire and various paints and plasters to build the model world for the railroad to be in.

In a way to build a model railroad you have to be an artist so I kinda cut the guys slack a bit.

A train layout like those under the christmas tree? You can just stop at the max of around 800 for a starter set. After that you get into an area that would take paragraphs to talk about.

WolfenVic

(2 years ago)

XO damn i had one when i was a kid didn't know it was that expensive huh i guess that explains why my grandfather flipped

GringoDC

(2 years ago)

Amazing trailer!

AdrianoRamirez

(2 years ago)

2spooky!

HillaryClinton

(2 years ago)

was about to post this.

anhedonic

(2 years ago)

Quemical (2 years ago)

Any idea of how much HD space you need for all that DLC?

Not sure if this includes all of it, but "Hard Drive: 6 GB of free space + 3 GB for DLC"

tr3pidation

(2 years ago)

Depends. Is the DLC all just fancy hats to put on your locomotive?

JafafaHots

(2 years ago)

Taerdin (2 years ago)

You realize it isn't a game right? There's no highscores, end bosses, storyline, etc.

It's an accurate simulation of trains. This is the virtual equivalent of buying detailed models of trains. Models are expensive, these trains are somewhat less so in comparison.

I guess that makes sense

594rk

(2 years ago)

You know what a simulation is?

A really boring game.

Amedeus

(2 years ago)

I do, you don't

Taerdin

(2 years ago)

Models are made out of actual stuff. Has to be manufactured, packaged, shipped, stocked, takes up shelf space, and a cut goes to the retailer.

DLC is a bunch of zeros and ones.

Can a person use simulated money to buy these simulated trains?

JafafaHots

(2 years ago)

Virtual trains need to be researched, modeled accurately, coded to run like the real one, tested, debugged, and the digital distributor (Steam) takes a nice cut. I fail to see the huge difference.

You sure can use 'simulated' money, just type in your credit card number. I mean all your money is is some 0s and 1s in Visa's (or whoevers) database, right?

Taerdin

(2 years ago)

/\ This, plus, all modern money is "simulated", even the cash in your wallet. None of it is backed by anything of any intrinsic worth.

adamofgreyskull

(2 years ago)

I love English bank notes. They outright say on the front that they're literally IOUs from the Bank of England. We're just trading around IOUs that never get paid.

thejadefalcon (Support)

(2 years ago*)

Scottish are even better. Banknotes from private banks, with big advertisement of said bank on the front, that aren't accepted on 60% of the country they're the currency of, that don't even pretend to be IoUs...

On the flip side, I liked pound coins, even started collecting different patterns when I was in UK. Ended up with, IIRC, 21 different coins.

GPTrixie

(2 years ago)

We collect them too. We have some pretty awesome designs on them.

thejadefalcon (Support)

(2 years ago)

And this is why call of duty is popular.

anelaidlives

(2 years ago)

/thread right here. Came to say this exact thing.

BananaNation

(2 years ago)

Interesting point. I never thought of it that way.

Personally, if I were to develop a collectable model hobby/knack, I'd probably want something a bit more tangible.

That's just me though. To each their own.

jackofhats

(2 years ago)

tallchris2 (2 years ago)

I remember that i tried to play Microsoft Train Simulator back in the day. I never got into it and i think that those games are only for people who absolutely LOVE trains. Those are the people who would pay that kind of money, and if they enjoy it, Good!

Celdiruen (2 years ago*)

Buy a model train set instead if you've got a big enough love of them to consider buying $1800 in DLC :] That's my advice. Otherwise, stay far, far, away.

tritian (2 years ago)

Is that a legit price lol? I looked at the dlc's on the steam page but.... dear lord wtf.

Karubo (2 years ago)

Yes. Trains are always worth it.

AvidWriter (2 years ago)

I doubt anyone owns it all. I think it's more of a "flood the market with every type of train there is" so everyone will find something to buy kinda deal.

HillaryClinton (2 years ago)

Waiting for the 90% off daily deal.

It's 80% off now.

shadowgrin

(2 years ago)

Wait until Christmas.

Luckz

(2 years ago)

Railworks 4 2013 will be out by then...

Chris

(2 years ago)

Now I am unsure of what to do... :-(

HillaryClinton

(2 years ago)

Selles (2 years ago)

it cant be any worse than Street Cleaning Simulator or Garbage Truck Simulator.

gororules (2 years ago)

The winner of the Christmas contest HAS most of the DLC now lol besides anything that just came out

GWarrior5595 (2 years ago)

I actually have friends who bought this, they have like 100+ hours each on the game with all the dlc lol

MorphineBear (2 years ago)

It's just like that "I am rich" app in the App Store. Just to show that you're rich as f&#$?

Poohunter (2 years ago)

its worth it if you want it to be this cool

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rulElJITIVY

Wrong game...

Adamantius

(2 years ago)

Beat me to it. Not only is it the wrong game, but that video really doesn't do the games justice.

WolfenVic

(2 years ago)

Adamantius (2 years ago*)

Unlike most of the people commenting here, I actually have the game. That said, of course $1,800 is not worth it. The majority of the DLC are as expensive as a game in its own right. Supposedly, a lot of research goes into each DLC to make each new train set as realistic as possible but that simply is no excuse. This is a game where you simply can't collect all of the DLC for that "complete" feeling you get when you have finally amassed all of the DLC for a game. The outrageous price prevents that. However, most people who have this game don't have an interest in collecting it all and that's probably why it's so expensive. They will just limit themselves to the add-ons that feature trains they really want. Each DLC usually also comes with a number of scenarios as well. In any case, there's so many add-ons that, even if you could get all the DLC for a dollar a piece, you would need hundreds or thousands of hours to utilize them.

As for the draw of the game itself, well, it's a good game for relaxing to atmospheric sights. Just like a real train offers. Years ago, one of my favorite things to do was to get opiated and ride trains, just looking out the window and enjoying the unique atmosphere, and a game like this can recreate that kind of experience. (That said, I'm not advocating abusing opiates... if you do, you'll never escape the horror of withdrawal. It's inevitable and not worth it.)

"Just like a real train offers." But without having to endure all the horrible passengers? Ok, i'm interested now.

Balduran

(2 years ago)

The only time I've ever encountered horrible passengers on trains (and I've ridden trains in multiple countries, from Connecticut-New York City in the US to Athens-Thessaloniki in Hellas) has been at 3:00 AM rides. I'm not talking about metros or subways, just regular above-ground trains.

Adamantius

(2 years ago)

I envy you then. Here in eastern europe it's a matter of spending much more money or a bus, or riding the cheap-ass barely-working train with cavemen.

Balduran

(2 years ago)

Well, Hellas is often considered part of eastern Europe -- south-eastern Europe, or the Balkans, to be exact (that said, Europeans don't really regard us as European but we don't either) -- but the situation is a lot different. All the major trains, including metros, have been modernized. However, I don't remember train ride prices being either extremely cheap or extremely expensive (unless one takes the fastest train possible, in which case the price goes up). The old, barely-working trains with no air conditioning or heating also exist but I haven't taken one of those since I was a child. They still run but no one really takes those, except maybe gypsies or others who can't afford a moderately-priced train ride.

In regards to the latter, the metro in Athens was built in 2000 and even has museum-style excavations that one can admire in certain areas. The whole metro is also guarded by police officers with sub-machine guns so people don't have to worry about crime or anything.

Adamantius

(2 years ago)

Ride London to (anywhere) at rush-hour on above-ground trains for even a few days a week for a few weeks and you will encounter the worst scum in the universe and they will be wearing business-suits. It is utterly soul-destroying. FACT.

adamofgreyskull

(2 years ago)

schalart (2 years ago*)

I'd like to say I own it and I love it. You should love it too. you guys are all just pissed your games don't have like 2k of dlc, you feel secretly neglected.

Ackydraal (2 years ago)

When I look at this game and all it's DLCs... I just really hope that next Football Manager wont be like this. To imagine FM2013 to be one playable league when you buy it, then there'll be 50+ DLCs containing other leagues. uggh. the horror, o0

jbrown87 (2 years ago)

Ok, serious question to ONLY those who have it and played it and can give an unbiased answer. Is this game worth buying?

If you are fan alias fanatic of train simulations, it is worth ... otherwise don't even think about it and don't complain about other people playing it. This is a very special niche of gamers who play such games.

wuddih

(2 years ago*)

It's a great sim if you want to drive trains.

Don't sweat the DLC - most people only buy the routes/engines/scenarios they are interested in. The main game comes with plenty of content, there is free fan made content, and you can create your own routes & scenarios.

The DLC is expensive, because it is a niche product. But it goes on sale 50% off at least twice a year, and you get updates to the main game for free (i.e. people who bought Railworks2 got upgrade to Railworks3 for free.)

drelbs

(2 years ago)

Thordred (2 years ago)

It doesn't end with the DLCs available on Steam, there's also tons of DLCs from 3rd party developers and user generated content downloadable from Railworks community websites around the www.

Quotes from the Steam forums:
"Yes the DLC is worth it. But only if you buy the specific DLC YOU are interested in. And that's the point with simulators. You just buy the bits you want. If you're fan of Steam trains, you'd obviously buy that type of DLC. If you're more interested in diesel/electric, you'd buy those. Same is true with regards to passenger services or freight services."

"The game doesn't require you to purchase any DLC to enjoy. Compare it to having an actual model railroad in your spare bedroom, and you go to the hobby store and see 1,000 different upgrade kits: new stock, new tracks, new scenery, etc. You don't need to purchase the entire store to enjoy your favorite layout(s). The base game has plenty to keep you busy for hundreds of hours."

I say: If you're looking for an actual game including trains, buy Railroad Tycoon instead.

I'm glad there are a few people who actually get it :)

Taerdin

(2 years ago)

fixer501 (2 years ago)

if your are overwhelmed by the price.. go pirate!! lolz thats the last option you might consider :D

dimon222 (2 years ago)

its better to buy them in Summer Camp // Christmas deals

Don't think it will go more then 80%

iDMostwanted

(2 years ago)

it went 90% during winter sale,

Thelonias

(2 years ago)

Pereking (2 years ago)

The DLCs were way cheaper during the winter sale so you might want to wait for the summer sale! proof

snorkel (2 years ago)

You're not supposed to buy all of them. You're supposed to go "Oh I like that one and that one". Owning them all would be pointless. There are so many that you wouldn't be able to try them all even if you wanted to.

xarabas (2 years ago)

I remember one thread on 4chan (/v/ actually) where users were discussing about winter sale and how everything is insanely cheap so it would be a good idea to buy Railworks. Then some dude posted "oh too bad i bought it before winter sale but what the hell" and he actually showed his Steam receipt with transaction of Railworks 3 + all dlc's, i think it was something over 1500$. So yeah, those people exist

pics or it didnt happen

Chris

(2 years ago)

FYI, I commuted from the South East of England to London for 2 years. A season ticket cost me around £2000 (~$4000) a year for a standard (economy) ticket. First class tickets - and there were at least 40 people who paid for first class tickets, just on my line and train - were double that, so $8000 a year. They sat in their own part of the train, but separated from the main carriages by as little as 4 inches.

adamofgreyskull

(2 years ago)

During the winter sale there was an "All DLC" pack for like $300 or $400 which was a pretty good deal. That being said, I wouldn't have sprung for it even if I had that much money on hand during the sale - being mostly interested in US diesel engines and yard work means that there's only a couple of DLC packs I'm going to be playing, a lot less than even $100 worth...

$ per hour of gameplay is pretty good with Railworks in you're into train sims.

drelbs

(2 years ago)

adamofgreyskull (2 years ago*)

Mass Effect Series: $60 + $60 + $60 + ($20 DLC) = ~$200 (according to someone in an ME3 thread)
Call of Duty Series: > $199 (Rough total cost of the games I own (on Steam, not including my Wii Call of Duty 3))

For $200, you can get Railworks + 8 DLCs at $19.99 each. This is much more than anyone really needs.

For anyone who wants to complain that I'm not comparing like with like, lets compare TF2:
How much would it cost to buy every single Hat, Map, Weapon, Taunt and Noisemaker from the Mann Co. Store? More than $1800? Yup!

Your DLC for Mass Effect and CoD are both wildly wrong. There's two DLC packs for ME, a lot of DLC for ME2 and one known for 3. There's less for CoD, but all of it is a lot more expensive.

thejadefalcon (Support)

(2 years ago)

Oh yes. Screw TF2. I bought the game 20 euros during a sale, and several months later they announce an in-game store full with "enter your credit card here" for paying customers.

Now the game is free to play and all I've got to show for it is a fuckin' hat. What am I supposed to do with that? Show everyone I'm the sucker who bought an f2p game?

Yes I'm mad >:(

DereckShiller

(2 years ago)

A fuckin' hat and about a year's worth of fun before the free players got in. Don't discount that.

movac

(2 years ago)

Didn't play it that much haha. I was supposed to get it with a friend but he never got to it :(

Generally speaking though, yes, there's also the full year of fun.

DereckShiller

(2 years ago)

Edoardo97 (2 years ago)

I lolled so hard...

Grrkek (2 years ago)

I like trains.

Balduran (2 years ago)

You know, i was always really damned curious about stuff like Train or Farm simulator. I mean - who wasn't? I just can't figure out who is the target audience for these games. I'm kinda tempted to buy it now.

iDMostwanted (2 years ago)

Is that even a question?

EvoSoldier (2 years ago)

If you have to ask, you will never know.

Andrea (2 years ago)

Buy it !

DereckShiller (2 years ago)

I think you're supposed to buy only the trains you wanna play with.

Vludi (2 years ago)

Of course, it has trains.

movac (2 years ago)

Thing is, Railworks is a whole lot cheaper than building the equivalent model train set. So if you're willing to trade physicality for price and realism, it's actually a genuinely good deal for train enthusiasts. (As for why someone would be $2k worth of train enthusiast: eh, it's a hobby.)

And, you don't need to have an entire room just for Railworks... it uses the same computer as all the other games.

NB264

(2 years ago)

nKoshi (2 years ago*)

Worth it? Hell ye it is, the competitive scene is huge. Just make sure you play No Railz only servers and not some easy mode scrub Steam servers. All the pro's use Diesel trains anyway for that multitrack drifting.

See for yourself.

Ok, i want this game so much now xD

Balduran

(2 years ago)

Two out of the three links are for a different game...

Adamantius

(2 years ago)

This topic is now closed.