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First time I get a revoked key message, what a dreadful author.
Regarding ‘I don’t own this shovelware anyway’ - it was meant for someone who didn’t own it in first place.
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Did your key revoked?
If you go to near the end of this thread: https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/kSpDB/gogobundle-go-go-bundle-limited-75 you'll find the dev showed up there and posted a link to the Steam Forums where it is discussed too.
If one was revoked, two of your poll answers apply.
If the game + all DLC were revoked, three answers apply.
Please be kind when making polls. Thank you and have a peachy day.
No you are wrong.
if the game is revoked you dont own the shovelware anymore .
I don’t own this shovelware anyway - means you didn’t own it in first place.
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Yes you are wrong :]
Don't go into counseling, my friend! xD
No need i’ve got you for free!
This thread is delightful
I got some dlc revoked, still got base game and 1 dlc, so can't vote.
Weird developer , even 4 options arent enough
So? What are we supposed to do to not have the "non activated" flag? Any suggestion?
I reported the game to steam for fraud.
Did you win it here on SG?
Just simply change the "received" to "non received" on your Won-Page and let the giveaway hoster handle the case. ;)
They can create a ticket to request a deletion of the giveaway with your approval.
can't change the feedback on 30+ days old giveaway
Oh sorry, I didn't know that. :o
I had a similar occurance with "Insanely Twisted Shadow Planet" which got revoked, and I was still able to change the feedback. The gib was deleted later after the hoster made a request ticket.
Now I would also know how to behave appropriately in such cases. I think you should try to get in touch with the gib-hoster, either they will provide a new working key for the game, or they should make a ticket to request a deletion of the gib. ;)
And the hoster is now Permanent Suspended...
Oh well, I think the only way to resolve this case is to submit a ticket to SG-Support then. I'm sure they will help you out. ;)
If you can't get a replacement key (thought I saw somewhere that you were going to try, but I could be mistaken), send a ticket to support to get the feedback changed. You may wish to provide a screenshot of the revocation in the ticket.
Edit: You may also wish to wait this storm out and hold off on that ticket for a bit, as support may be working on another way to deal with this.
yeah, same here.. for sure I bought it on Steam (I mean: maybe from a bundle but I haven't won it or received for free) and I haven't won it here, anyways never received such a message.. through Steam Help I saw it was activated in May, 2018 and revoked today =\ I had a single DLC (called Find Exit) but this one has not been revoked..
The DLC was won 4 months ago on steamgifts, the game 100% not found here so I bought on the store/bundles 99%..
edit, new steam help assistance message: Simple Story Alex - Good Day, another DLC, was revoked but NOT the one I won on steamgifts, so it means I had that dlc from who knows where since I played it 7 8 months ago the last time..
Only Find Exit (Simple Story - Alex DLC) got revoked for me. I won that on steamgifts too. I still own the base game.
well, I won on SG Find Exit (Simple Story - Alex DLC) and.. it's the only one that was not revoked! =\ I don't own the base game anymore and i'm gonnna ask the creator if he wants to delete it 'cos I don't want to be part of this mess-up by the developers..
yeah, I also contacted my giveaway creator, but DLC luckily doesn't matter much, as steamgifts can't detect that anyway.
yeah you're right, fortunately I didn't won the base game on steamgifts xD anyways I contacted them the same since I don't own anymore the base game and it happens they mass revoked lots of dlc keys =\
I only got a DLC of this game revoked. I still got the base game...
The game + all DLCs were revoked
it seems that some DLCs weren't revoked.. I still own Find Exit (Simple Story - Alex DLC) which I won on steamgifts, another DLC I won a month later was revoked along with the base game I activated through a bundle by myself.. though there are players who still have the base game and some dlcs..
All depends on what bundles, or some just might get revoked later, and yes also won Find Exit here, and did not get revoked.
I feel like there is a lesson here: stop supporting penny bundle sites. Beyond that, if you are in such a rage after having lost what amounts to, at most, 10 cents, then I feel you have some larger issues at play. I'm just curious when you all plan to decide to hold the bundle sites responsible for stuff like this rather than pile onto what is probably not such a great scenario for the dev either (whether it's bundle crap is even yet another topic lol).
As I witness this absurdity yet again, I am reminded of this:
I feel like there is a lesson here: Stop supporting penny bundle sites!
I feel like there is a lesson here: Stop supporting penny bundle sites!
For want of a nail the shoe was lost.
For want of a shoe the horse was lost.
For want of a horse the rider was lost.
For want of a rider the message was lost.
For want of a message the battle was lost.
For want of a battle the kingdom was lost.
And all for the want of a horseshoe nail.
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Lmao I haven’t used google translate, this is an old saying written in old variant of the english language:
It’s an old saying, the english language has a lot of old slangs which seem weird but they aren’t.
And in the forums of the developer of Simple story - Alex, there is ONE single person defending him. And it's an old veteran from SG of defending developers when they erase our games.
That person makes a great point though, and an entirely accurate one:
"That is between them. If you buy something and it stops working, you contact the retailer where you bought it. It's their job to fix the problem by either refund or replacement. Simple as that, then the retailer and manufacturer can fight each other about who did what."
The problem is that it's not that I bought something and it doesn't work. It's that the manufacturer has entered my home, stolen what I had, which worked perfectly, and told me to solve it by myself.
In a few years Sony can make your TV stop working remotely. Do you agree that if you buy a TV in BestBuy, and BestBuy shuts down without paying Sony, then Sony can shut down forever your TV? Hey, you and the millions of other innocent people can ask Best Buy to solve it.
And that computer or that mobile that you bought... hey. Are you sure that every single royalty has been paid? Right now there are thousands, of patents in hardware and software in your hands. And multiple trials about them. Do you agree that if there is any dispute with the patents, your computer can be shut down until the courts decide, say, in a year or two?
"TVs getting revoked" would indeed seem weird. But, not every case is that weird. In example, you are renting a flat and part of the rental agreement is that you pay the flat-owner/landlord for electricity, with the landlord having the account for the electricity at the company supplying the electricity. And while you still paid the landlord for electricity, the landlord stops paying the company for electricity - due to which the company turns off the electricity for the flat. And what now? Who do you complain to or about ? That company or the landlord? I would think that you would blame the landlord, or not?
Or another example. After that affair you decide to go on holiday until they sort it out. So you go to a travel agency and book a flight and hotel. The flight went alright, but once you arrive at the hotel, the receptionist tells you that they can't accept the voucher you present from the travel agency because the travel agency did not pay what they were clearly asked to pay in advance for the booking to be confirmed. Now, the receptionist or perhaps even the general manager of the hotel may be right in front of your face, and as so often happens be the target for verbal anger, but are they really to blame for not providing what the travel agency promised you while they didn't fulfill their obligations with the hotel? In other words, doesn't it rather make sense for you to contact the travel agency for them to sort it out or at least provide you with an alternative, or in case they don't, for them to be the ones who you would be suing for money-back and for your expenses you had due to the situation?
That said, in case of them video games and licenses, I think that indie-devs are shooting themselves in their own leg when they do mass-revocations, since their lack of making proper contracts to go to court with should not be a problem of customers. But in terms of the argument about "Who are you mad at?", as shown it can be easily argued that rather the landlord and the travel agency are to blame than the supplier of the "promised".
In both cases, electricity and a holiday, it's not a product you have, but a service. In this case, we are talking about a object in your hands (game license, we all understand) that perfectly works, that you legally paid yourself. I think my examples, a TV that you bought yourself and that works, a computer that you bought yourself and works, a mobile that you bought yourself and it works in this case are better.
Let's not forget that at least in the indiegala case, the dev was ultimately responsible, since indiegala provided the invoiced that proved they paid the developer. And the developer, who is banning everybody from the forums didn't even contact indiegala first. But it was too late for the owners of the game. Even if indiegogo provided right now all the proof, and the developer admitted he messed up, it's too late already.
Also only trolls who can't read find any defending done there. Just like they confuse a worthless trash +1 with a brand new TV. They just simply can't think about anything other than their precious +1. And to a raging mob of kids, anyone who says anything sensible is their mortal enemy. So much fun :)
Itse olen ollut koko ajan rauhallinen, jos ei nyt huvittuneisuutta lasketa rauhattomuudeksi. Siksi onkin niin hauskaa rauhallisena todeta faktoja kun toiset huutavat naama punaisena että seuraavaksi devit tulee ja pöllii sun talon ja muita harhojaan. Mutta anteeksi jos vinkujia vastaan vinkuminen aiheutti häiriötä omalta osaltani.
Keräilijäluonteena vaan haluan kerätä koko skaalan kokemuksia joihin kuuluvat myös pienet bannit, joten ne ovat kaikki tarkkaan harkittuja vaikkakin toteuttamiseen on saadettu vaatia vähän rohkaisua. :)
Ai niin, unohtui mainita että banaania tuli koska mainostin tehty Suomessa kuraattoria 6.12. vaikka tiesin ja avoimesti myönsin sen olevan sääntöjen vastaista. Tämän kauhean synnin olen valmis toistamaan vaikka joka vuosi :)
Oh sì, ho dimenticato di dire che le banane sono arrivate perché l'inserzionista è stato fatto in Finlandia dal curatore 6.12. anche se sapevo e ammettevo apertamente che era contrario alle regole. Questo terribile peccato io sono pronto a ripetere ogni anno :)
Noci e banane, frutti assortiti della giungla
roba da scimmia, insomma.
I do wish people would stop using terrible analogies.
Sometimes I think they'd compare a blister on their thumb to someone being crushed by a fallen airplane full of elephant dung and then run over by a herd of antelope being ridden by tutu-wearing chimpanzees carrying spiked baseball bats.
First is obviously a huge conspiracy of blister salve manufacturers hiring ninjas to break into your to cause blisters on you so a serious problem we must fight against. Second is just random bad luck, can happen to anyone.
Well, since it's about ninjas, it's serious business. We cannot have blistering ninjas becoming a wide-spread issue.
Now where did I put that extra large font ...?
here, take mine
Both can ruin your day!
Analogies are simple language tools people use to help others understand their point of view.
Take yours for example, which seems simple enough; but if it was being used to prove some sort of culpability of someone else.... For example, if I slammed your thumb in the door on purpose causing your thumb to blister, is that my fault or not?
I do see your point but this keeps on happening so the analogies will keep coming I fear. ^^
The phrase "making mountains of molehills" comes to mind (to clarify - not about your comment).
The simple point was this - there's no analogy that can be made between a game being revoked from your Steam account and someone breaking into your home and stealing your television.
I agree, it is a bad analogy.
I thought the analogy regarding a 'kill switch' being placed in the TV made a bit more sense but in the end this is new territory for us all.
I just get weary with people making everything seem like an "end of the world" thing.
Contact the retailer, be nice, ask for a replacement key. If that fails, go to the developer, be nice, ask for a replacement key.
If all that fails, it's still not the end of the world. There's no reason for people to be all up in arms and belligerent. It's just way too much.
When something like this happens, I stop and ask myself this -- "How bad is my day if this is the worst thing that happens to me today?"
Anyway, sorry for the "rant", it wasn't directed at you, just at the whole situation. I'll switch it off now. ;)
You aint kidden tho.
I knew a kid got stabbed for stepping on someone's shoes while on the subway. I think for a lot of people it is the perceived slight, the 'disrespect' that urks them.
What alarmed me about it is knowing it will keep happening and just the fact that it is really inconvenient to remedy.
if i wouldn't dislike the steam forums so much, i would +1 that comment too. ^^
not exactly, yes IF there is a problem between them , MUST stay between them, taking it from the final customer is worst.
Dev can gain support of community making awareness about his problem, showing the proves, and making people empathetic with him, this is a stupid movement from developers not understanding Public Relationships
While his point is good, he's not taking into account that it was not just that the product stopped working, but that it was deliberately disabled by the "manufacturer". Any time a company decides to do something that affects costumers negatively they're the one to blame, not the retailers. The developer decided to do something against people that were not involved in any way with the situation, he deserves all the flak he's getting right now.
I take all things into account, like the actual worth (0) of what was lost. If a +1 is the most precious thing in your life and worth raging in a lynch mob, you have far worse problems with your life. It's irrelevant who did what, the end result is still that in case of any problem with a paid product, you should ask your retailer for a refund/replacement since they are the ones who got your money. This concept is even written in consumer protection laws.
Let's see what happened with the Urban crap, people raged online writing fake reviews and that achieved nothing at all. Then they contacted the bundle site who handled the mess with the dev and got them replacement keys. So how are acting like an adult and actually thinking the bad things here? Is it more important to point fingers and blaming others OR actually trying to fix the problem?
You downplay the worth of the "+1" grossly based on your views. It's not always about the monetary value, or about a meaningless number. There are several other ways people might perceive loss. Like having something taken from you that you believe shouldn't have been, it's a really harsh trust issue for some, especially those unaware that Steam licenses work that way.
Also, you're not considering that people have to waste their time over this contacting the store or people they gave or received keys to/from. I lost some good 5-10 minutes I'd rather spend somewhere else today. So, nope, despite the worthless game there was definitely plenty of actual worth I lost over this. Though if you don't value your time just let me know and next time something like this happens I'll contact you so you can handle it for me.
Anyway, I don't care about the game loss nor support people review bombing or raging at the dev. So I agree with you there. Also sure, take it to Otakumaker for a refund if that's the case, you'd be a fool otherwise. But I disagree that people shouldn't be doing anything regarding the dev. If anything, the response he's getting might make him or other devs reconsider something like this in the future. On my part, I marked the dev and will not be supporting anything he makes in the future. What other people do about it is not my concern.
No, I state the worthlessness of a +1 that nobody has ever played or wouldn't know they had if someone asked before the removal. This doesn't justify taking it away of course, I have never said that, it just makes raging about it like it's the end of the world look really childish. But unlike many love to imagine, it doesn't mean that every AAA game will be taken from you the next day if you don't rage about it. And it means even less the more loved imagination that they will break into your house and steal your TV, dog and car. If you never played a game and never will, what valued does it have in reality? It's not monetary, it's not entertainment value, so it can only be either sentimental feelings towards the game or the loss of a +1.
People get 2-3 games as compensation from the dev from what I've read, so they get 1-2 more +1s for just spending that 5 mins. And if they really can't waste those minutes, why are they wasting 10 times more minutes complaing about the situation instead of trying to at least fix it? You spent the same amount of time writing me that reply than it takes to send the email to the dev, so nice to know that you value me more than your time. I cared about the game enough to read the notice, check that I won it here and post the news and agree to delete the GA. After that it's been all for fun while doing 1-2 other things at the same time, so no time was really lost, didn't even bother emailing since I gave up on +1s.
Do you actually believe that anyone buys those games from Steam store ever? And they read reviews and notice the game only 10 people have ever played is from a bad dev, so they will buy some other trash instead? My bet is that they will continue buying more trash from the dev as long as they appear in $0.40 bundles of horrible crap. So what can it actually accomplish if mobs rage at the dev? I bet that it can only succeed in the dev saying FU and forget ever being a game dev. If nobody will ever buy any of their games, what reason do they actually have to keep trying, the $100 they get once a year from some shitty bundle? So if raging like a spoiled kid can only have bad results, why not try the adult way instead. If you want to not support all devs like those, just stop buying shitty bundles that only have trash games like that.
If that guy quits being a dev, they did the world a favor.
Sure if that is their goal, but then there would be no more +1s and that would mean the end of the world as we know it.
I contacted the Dev and he sent me 2 Keys for other Games of him !
So i decidet to buy Alex complete on Steam and the Problem is solved for me !!!
How did you contact him please?
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von Creative:
thanks what do i need to put in the e-mail to prove i bought the bundle?
Like I said, page 4, first post. Everyone looking for a form of compensation, just send and E-mail with proof of revocation.
I attached Screenshots of the Steam Revoke to the Email .
Got 1 key, for a 2 min achievement farmer which thought was little misleadingly advertised as a logic riddler.... yaaay 😩
When people stop buying Go-Go-Trash bundles?
^ this do yourself a favor. doesn't help with past mistakes like this tho.
Yea that’s it for me with gogo and otaku I guess.
Only got Find Exit revoked, but that's probably since I only used that key from the #75 bundle. Had the base game before and the other DLCs didn't seem worth it to be redeemed to me. Contacted GoGo by PayPal and the dev by mail.
Oh, and since it's ridiculously matching, have a Trash Story (replacement by dev):
(a pile of ?unk)
I got the base game from Indiegala and it was not revoked. But all of the DLC from Gogotaku were revoked of course.
If you bought through Paypal, do a chargeback. The company that you bought from will have to sit up and take notice of that.
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some are saying this was 6 months ago, not sure you can do a chargeback after such a long period?
I think the time limit is 3-4 months. It's worth looking into. They shouldn't be allowed get away with it.
My thinking was that if enough people did file a chargeback, the company would be forced to resolve it pretty sharpish. If the time-limit has indeed passed, then that's too bad. :(
Yep, revoked + all DLC.
I've won that game 6 months ago here on sg and it got revoked today. It's a bad trend lately with revoking keys.
I don’t own this shovelware anyway
I don’t own this shovelware anyway
all DLC of this game revoked. I still got the base game..
Here we go again, another lying dev punishing consumers because they have an issue with the storefront they authorized to sell their game...
My key wasn't revoked, but like I said the last time- this will continue to happen again and again until some kind of system is put into place.
Yes, I did, and I honestly couldn't give a shit. It's had zero impact on my life.
If there's a +1 that gets my dog to stop taking a shit where she shouldn't, I might be able to say otherwise.
+1 Outside doghouse.
-1 Inside dog.