This project doesn't seem to be taking off, so closing for now.


Update: The latest draft FAQ is on Draft (draftin.com). This FAQ is work-in-progress. Feel free to suggest questions or volunteer to write answers.

Below you'll find a snapshot of the FAQ from Aug 6, with some background about this little project.


An L0 GA:


I think it's about time for this site to have a single document that covers the information in the Guidelines and FAQ, does it in a more streamlined way and includes more up to date information about some hot subjects that are frequently discussed in the forum. My goal is to cover everything people need to know about how to use and enjoy this site, and of course stay out of trouble. It will obviously end up as a pretty big chunk of text, but I'll worry about ease-of-consumption later. Proper order, sections and table of contents will be done after most questions are answered. Hopefully proofreading by a native English speaker (which I'm not) will also happen at some point in time.

As a first step I'd like to capture the questions that this document needs to cover. Below is what I have so far.
Note: I already added some questions from the comments, and Reforced helped to re-organize this into sections. Thanks everyone!

Snapshot of the FAQ as of Aug 6, 2017. Latest version is on draftin.com


TL;DR

  • How to stay out of trouble?

There are a few simple rules you need to follow to ensure you're in good standing with the site and other users. Ignoring these rules will get you suspended and potentially banned, so if you don't read the rest of this FAQ do spend a couple of minutes to read and understand the following points:

  • Don't join giveaways for games you already own. If you mistakenly did so and won, don't use the key and ask the giveaway creator to request a new winner ("re-roll").

  • Don't join giveaways for games you previously won. If you mistakenly did so and won, do the same as in the point above.

  • Redeem games you win onto the Steam account linked to your SteamGifts account.

  • If you win, don't badger the giveaway creator to send you the key. According to site rules, they need to do it within 1 week, not 1 hour. Pushing them do send it early may only result in the opposite, so just be patient.

  • Mark a giveaway you won as Received, but only after you successfully received and activated it.

  • If something goes wrong during activation (e.g. the game is already owned, or the key is duplicate or region locked), contact the giveaway creator. For an already-owned game simply ask them to request a new winner. For a bad key ask them (politely) for a solution. If you don't get a satisfactory solution, contact Support. Do not create a new thread about it in the forum.

  • If you had any issue with a specific user, contact Support if you think what they did is against the rules. Do not start a new thread in the forum. For advise, read site FAQ, this document or previous threads in the forum about similar issues. In any case, do not call out another user whom you have issues with - not in the forum or in giveaway comments.

  • "Referral links are not allowed in the community, and if you choose to post a link, please be sure all referral codes have been removed (http://www.example.com?ref=12345 to http://www.example.com)." [^1]

  • "When posting links or content, that content should not force users, encourage users through reward, or primarily exist as a traffic source for users to perform an action for promotional, commercial, or monetary benefit. Such actions include but are not limited to clicking a referral link, liking a Facebook page, following a Twitter account, joining a Steam group, completing a survey, or making a donation. (Please note, in giveaway descriptions we do allow users and developers to link to their related Steam Greenlight, group, and store pages, as well as their social media channels. Users are also able to reference their group giveaways when posting in the Group Recruitment category of our forum.)" [^1]

  • If you post anything NSFW (not safe for work), tag it as such. And don't use NSFW images for your avatar.

  • A few important tips about issues that are not suspension-worthy:

‎1. Read giveaway descriptions. It's the least you can do, and there can be some very important (or interesting) information there.
‎2. Don't feel obligated to thank giveaway creators when you enter (especially if they requested not to), but do thank them if you win (again, unless they request not to).
‎3. Don't be rude to anyone. Not only is it the right way to communicate with people, being rude will likely get you blacklisted by people who read what you wrote. This will prevent you from entering many giveaways. Being nice to people may have an opposite, positive effect (learn about whitelist below).
‎4. Don't beg for gifts. Enter giveaways and be patient. It can take a while to win, you may need to enter a few thousand giveaways until you win.

[Todo: points from Guidelines\General]

General

  • Is this site a scam?
    No, the site is definitely not a scam. It's common for people to win hundreds of giveaways, but it can take some patience, as the odds of winning are not very high when a typical giveaway has hundreds of entries. To learn how to improve your odds, see Winning giveaways ("Why have I not won yet? How to win more?")
  • Why would people give gifts to strangers?
    Many people start giving games because they have some leftover keys from bundles and instead of letting these keys rot they prefer to give them away and make someone else happy. Try it, it really does feel good to give. So much so that many people end up giving more expensive games, including AAA ones that were never bundled.
  • Where can I find the rules of this site? I only see FAQ and Guidelines. Are these obligatory or just tips? The official FAQ and Guidelines are the rules of the site and are obligatory. This alternative FAQ just aims to unify the most useful information from these two documents into one, and add answers to additional questions that commonly come up. It attempts to be accurate and up-to-date, but is not a replacement for the official documents and should not be consider as a rule-book. When in doubt, always check the official SteamGift pages linked above.
  • What are the options provided by the site interface?

The navigation on top has the following options:

  • Giveaways (Shows all the available giveaways)
    • Create a New Giveaway (Start your own giveaway)
    • Community Wishlist (See the combined wishlists of everyone on SteamGifts)
    • View Created (Shows all your previously created giveaways)
    • View Entered (Shows all the giveaways you have entered)
    • View Won (Shows all the giveaways you have won)
  • Trades (A link to SteamTrades.com)
  • Discussions (Shows all threads in the SteamGifts forum)
    • Create a New Discussion (Start your own new thread in the forum)
    • View Created (Shows all your previously created threads in the forum)
  • Support (Shows all your previously created support tickets)
    • Create a New Ticket (Start a new ticket for support's help)
  • Help (Links to the SteamGifts FAQ)
    • Comment Formatting (Shows the guide for formatting text in SteamGifts)
    • FAQ (Shows the Frequently Asked Questions)
    • Guidelines (Shows the community rules and guidelines)
  • Icons (This is the group of icons beside the Account menu)
    • Gift Icon (Shows all your previously created giveaways)
    • Trophy Icon (Shows all the giveaways you have won)
    • Envelope Icon (Shows all the messages/replies that have been sent to you)
  • Account (Shows the account settings)
    • Sync with Steam (Shows the account settings and allows you to sync your SteamGifts account with your Steam account)
    • My Stats (Shows your statistics, including chances of winning and your interactions with the community)
    • Logout

While the footer below has the following options:

  • Steam (Links to the Steam Store)
  • Archive (Shows all already-closed giveaways)
  • Stats (Shows your statistics, including chances of winning and your interactions with the community)
  • Roles (Shows the different roles and their permissions on SteamGifts)
  • Users (Shows all existing users on SteamGifts)
  • Steam Group (Links to the SteamGifts group on Steam)
  • Chat (Opens the SteamGifts group chat on your Steam client)
  • Privacy Policy (Discusses how the SteamGifts website handles your data)
  • Terms of Service (Discusses the legalities of your use of the SteamGifts website)
  • When does the site resync with my Steam account and should I trigger it manually? The site synchronizes with your Steam account once a week. This is done primarily to update the database with the list of games you own, so that you're not presented with giveaways for those. It also syncs the list of groups you are a member of (to allow you to access their giveaways) and your Steam avatar. It is recommended that you trigger synchronization manually after winning a game or joining new groups. To do this, use the Sync Account button in your profile page.
  • What are some useful scripts and applications you'd recommend to improve the experience on this site? ESGST is a very feature rich script that includes most of the functionality provided by other scripts. RaChart™ Enhancer is another highly recommended script which highlights the games you own or have wishlisted in many of the forum threads about new game bundles. A complete list of scripts and add-ons is available in this thread.
  • Is there a way to see exact dates on this site? The site uses human-friendly relative date formatting, like "1 year ago" or "6 minutes remaining". To see the exact dates and times (in a tool-tip), just hover the mouse cursor on the date.

Giveaways

Findings giveaways

  • Is there a way to filter only for games that are on my Steam wishlist? Yes, when browsing giveaways, scroll to the page to see the left pane menu, then click the Wishlist filter (under Browse section)

  • Can I filter out games I'm not interested in? Yes, just click the eye/slash button: This button is available for each giveaway in the list of giveaways, as well as from within the giveaway page. Once you click it and approve the game will be added to your hidden games list. You can remove games from this list and see giveaways for them again by clicking here.

  • Why do I not have permission to view a group giveaway, when I'm a member of the related Steam group? From SG FAQ: "This typically happens if you recently joined a new Steam group, and your account has not yet synced. Insure you have your Steam profile set to public, and then force a sync with Steam. Once complete, you'll be able to access the giveaway."

  • I think I spotted a fake giveaway, what should I do? From SG FAQ: "We typically allow all giveaways to run their course without judgement, and allow the giveaway creator a fair chance to prove themselves and to come through with the gift in the end. An exception is when the giveaway creator enters a description that clearly states the giveaway is fake, or if the description illustrates a lack of understanding of how the giveaway system works. Please refrain from posting any comments accusing the giveaway creator of posting a fake giveaway, and only create a support ticket if the giveaway is fake beyond a reasonable doubt."

Entering giveaways

  • How to enter giveaways? [include points from Guidelines\Entering]

  • How do I know if I won a giveaway? From SG FAQ: "If you win a giveaway, you'll see a popup on the site notifying you of the win. You'll also see a notification in the navigation bar, linking you to gifts won."

  • Should I thank giveaway creators when I enter? Should I thank them if I win?

  • What are the rules for entering to win Steam packs if I currently own a number of the games contained within? From SG FAQ: "We ask users not to enter giveaways for packages if they already own the majority of the games. This allows for winners that will receive the most value out of their gift. In the end, the giveaway creator has the final say, and if they believe the winner owns too many of the packaged games, we'll allow them to request a new winner."

  • What are points (P)? [base on official faq; also cover 0P games]

  • How many points (P) can I receive? From SG FAQ: "Users are limited to 300 points at any given time."

  • How do I receive or earn more points (P)? From SG FAQ: "All users on the site are given an equal number of points, and you cannot do anything outside of waiting patiently to increase your number of points. The number of points being distributed to users is based on the number of giveaways being posted to the site, and you'll frequently see your points automatically rise throughout the day."

  • Can I enter a giveaway for a friend? From SG FAQ: "You should only enter to win giveaways for yourself, and if you win a game, it must be activated and redeemed to the Steam account used during registration. If a friend is interesting in joining giveaways, they'll need to register for their own account."

  • Can I use scripts or bots to automatically enter giveaways?

Winning giveaways

  • Why have I not won yet? How to win more?
    You may need to join hundreds or even thousands of giveaways until you win your first game. This depends on the total number of entries in the giveaways you join. The chances to win Public Level 0 giveaways are typically very low. To improve your odds, look for giveaways with a lower number of entries, such as those posted in the forum (also known as "invite-only giveaways"). Joining giveaway groups or leveling up to join higher level giveaways would also increase your chances. See this guide for more information.

  • What to do after I win? [include points from Guidelines\Winning]

  • If I win a gift, when can I expect to receive it? From SG FAQ: "Giveaway creators are allowed one week to send the gift after the giveaway has ended. Depending on the type of gift and the giveaway creator, you might receive the gift to the e-mail address you have listed on the account page, a key might be added beside the gift you won, or the giveaway creator might have sent you a friend request on Steam to make the exchange. Please remain patient, and do not contact the giveaway creator during this time. If the gift is not received after one week, you can mark the gift as not received, and attempt to contact the giveaway creator on Steam to follow-up."

  • Do I get points (P) back if I don't win? From SG FAQ: "Points are used for a chance to win, and they're not returned if you do not win. If you choose to remove your entry from a giveaway that's still open, the points will be returned to your account."

  • What to do if the key is bad (e.g. already used or region locked)?
    Add a comment in the giveaway explaining the problem. DO NOT post about it in the forum. If you don't get a response from the giveaway creator after a day or two, add them on Steam to explain the problem over chat. The creator may provide you an alternative key, if they have one. If they don't, they will probably ask you to agree to giveaway deletion. Since this is likely to be due to an honest mistake, the friendly thing would be for you to agree, unless of course you see a good reason not to. If you don't get any response, mark the giveaway as Not Received. In any case never mark a giveaway as Received if you couldn't successfully activate the game.

  • Is it possible and allowed to change my feedback after I already marked the game as Received or as Not Received?

Creating giveaways

  • How to create giveaways? [include points from Guidelines\Creating; include differences between key and gift in light of recent changes]
  • What is the difference between Everyone (public), invite-only (forum) and Steam group / Whitelist giveaways?
  • How does region restriction work and what to do if the giveaway creation page doesn't allow me to properly define regions?
  • I want to create a giveaway for a game but it's not listed. Is there a list of such games, and what would you suggest to do with this key?
  • How do giveaway slots work? [Cover both addition and removal of slots; base on the official faq]
  • I have free keys I want to give. What would be the best way to go about it?
    Starting August 2017, SteamGifts allows giveaways to be created for games that were previously given for free. Note however that contributor value of these games is 0, so they won't help you level up.

Ended giveaways

  • I accidentally created a giveaway, or the gift is no longer available, how do I delete my giveaway? [base answer on official faq]

  • Are there other situations where I can I delete a giveaway?

  • How (and why) to check that a winner is not a rule breaker before sending the key?

  • Can I refuse to give a game to a winner?

  • The winner has not redeemed my gift, and I'm unable to get into contact with them. How do I proceed? From SG FAQ: "If you've been unable to reach the winner of your giveaway using e-mail and Steam after seven days of your giveaway ending, and they have not yet activated or redeemed any keys or gifts you attempted to send, please contact support to request a new winner. When creating a ticket, we ask you to include data that suggests you made an adequate attempt to contact the winner, such as screenshots of e-mails, friend requests, or gifts pending on Steam. If the request is approved, a new winner will be generated by the site."

  • What are valid reasons to request a new winner? [Also include the keyword "reroll" in the answer; Cover flow for infractions older than 1 month]

  • The winner has redeemed my gift, but not marked it received. How do I proceed? From SG FAQ: "If your gift has been activated or redeemed by the winner, and they have not left feedback after seven days, please create a support ticket to request received feedback. A support member will review and ticket, and if the gift is activated on the winner's Steam account, approve the ticket and update the feedback to received."

  • How are giveaway winners selected? From SG FAQ: "All giveaway entries are treated equally, and when a giveaway ends, the site will randomly select a winner. Users that are suspended during the selection process are unable to win, and their entries will be excluded when the winner is generated."

User profile

Level

  • What are levels, and how can I increase my level? [base on official faq]

  • Is it possible to see the exact level of a user?

  • Is there a way to level up if I don't have money to buy games for giveaways?

  • My level dropped. What's going on? [Should also cover "Do I have to remove my entries from higher level giveaways after dropping a level?" Or "What happens if I win a higher level giveaway I no longer can enter after dropping a level?"]

  • What's the difference between a bundled and an unbundled game and where can I find which games were bundled?
    I'd like to know how much I need to spend to move up to the next level. How can I find this information?**

Whitelists and Blacklists

  • How does a whitelist work? From SG FAQ: "If you view a user profile, you'll see a button with a heart icon in the left column. If you click this button, the user will be added to your whitelist. If you click this button again, the user will be removed from your whitelist. When creating a giveaway, you have the option to limit the giveaway to users on your whitelist. By doing so, the giveaway will only be visible to these users, and only they will have permission to access the giveaway and be able to enter for a chance to win. If you add new users to your whitelist after the giveaway is created, they will instantly gain access to the giveaway as well, and it'll appear on the giveaway list on their homepage. If you remove a user from your whitelist, they will no longer have access to your whitelist giveaways, but their entries will remain valid for any previous giveaways they might have entered."

  • How does a blacklist work? [base on official faq, refer to "A Paranoid Guide about how to avoid being blacklisted" by faboitas, and "Reasons for blacklist..." by wany1981]

Misc

  • What are valid reasons to report a user?
  • How long does it usually take to get a response from Support?
  • How do suspensions and bans work?
  • What is considered inappropriate behavior worthy of suspension?
  • What is CV? [Also cover what happens when a game is removed]
  • What are ratios?

Discussions and Chat

  • How to format comments on the forum and in giveaways? [include how to escape formatting]
  • What are SGTools-protected giveaways, are they allowed and how to enter them? [Also cover how to create such giveaways]
  • What are trains?
  • What are puzzles and how to solve them?
  • I noticed a new bundle or a deal I want to share on the Deals forum, is there a preferred format I should use?
  • What is Cake Day? Why is there a weird icon next to my username?
  • Why do some giveaway creators request that people bump their threads? Am I obligated to do it if I enter their giveaways?
  • Does this site have a group chat?
  • Can you explain the meaning of... [Cover SG, GA, Potato, Gib etc...]

[^1]: Quoted from SteamGifts Guidelines


I'm planning to write the answers to all of these questions, but this can take quite a bit of time. If there are any volunteers who would like to own a specific question, I'd be happy to get help. Just let me know in a comment and I'll append your name to the question as the owner.

An L0 GA:

Finished GAs
The worst year of my lifeTrue Bliss
- The Secret Order 2: Masked Intent
- Nightmares from the Deep: The Cursed Heart

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Some questions that are covered by the official FAQ which should probably be left out of this alternative FAQ:

  • Are you affiliated with Valve?
  • What are the requirements for registering?
  • Does my Steam profile need to be public to use the site?
  • Who is giving away all these games?
  • Why are winners 'Anonymous'?
  • I'm a game developer or publisher looking to promote my game through giveaways. How do I get started?
  • What are 'Community Voted' giveaways?
  • How is 'Giveaway Feedback' calculated on my profile?
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Maybe instead of leaving them out they can be included but with a short & generic "Already covered by the official FAQ + link" message.

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This would be a good idea if those documents had anchor links. Maybe I can convince cg...

Edit: If you're only referring to this bunch of questions, it would probably be sufficient. People can search :-)

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Yes, this bunch. Just link FAQ and let them use F3.

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You are great again, yirg. Have a bump!

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Thank you! :-)

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"How do giveaway slots work?" - While getting new slots is answered in the current FAQ, how to lose them is not. Also that 1 slot = 1 copy of a game, not 1 slot = 1 giveaway is very important to point out.

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Some stuff on re-rolls for winners and givers since there's questions on those topics quite regularly.

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This is basically "What are valid reasons to request a new winner?", but I'll make sure to also use the term "reroll".

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Ok.
I also mean in the case of winning 2 copies of a single game or a game you already own so the winner has to ask the gifter too re-roll

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"What is bump?"

bump

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  • Why do some giveaway creators request that people bump their threads? Am I obligated to do it if I enter their giveaways?
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Q: "Thank you" comments in giveaways: to be or not be?
I suggest to split all questions in categories from basic stuff to advanced. Otherwise it will be "TL DR"

ah and thank you, btw :)

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This is a very good point. I added:

  • Should I thank giveaway creators when I enter? Should I thank them if I win?

Splitting to basic vs advanced would be difficult, because where exactly do you draw the line? But I think the "How to stay out of trouble?" question would cover the essentials that a newcomer should know.

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"What is Cake Day" should have a subquestion "What is this weird icon next to my username?""

  • Is there a way to see exact dates on this site?
    The only way to see exact dates is with a script that converts Unix Epoch timestamps into normal time,
    or by using this website or by hovering over the "5 minutes ago" and hoping it pops up the real time.
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Waiting for the tooltip is actually my preferred solution, though I agree it's not very reliable. The problem is that I got used to the current date layout and don't want a script to permanently change it. I'll definitely cover these alternatives though.

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I'd cover inappropriate behavious ar well (especially with all the dramas we have regarding it lately) as it is a suspendable offence that is not really covered much in FAQ

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Good point. Is this part of the "extras" in the Polish FAQ?

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just slightly - in guidelines I went to some details, like don't say bad things about other users, call them out, call GAs FAKE but also more inappropriate behavior thingies in next bullet point - don't be disrespectful, things like sexism, racism, sexual/gender/religious discrimination are prohibited. Like I said there - it was direct translation of expanded FAQ from v2 beta, you may as well expand it to things we're dealing with nowadays - harassment, bullying, hiding your rulebreaking behind sarcastic "I didn't technically call out" etc.

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I added the question "What is considered inappropriate behavior worthy of suspension?" (right after "How do suspensions and bans work?")

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All good links which I'll use as base material for some of these answers :-)

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This is also important because there are users that think that making SGTools giveaways is difficult and/or take a lot of time to make.

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I would just suggest that somewhere the doc state that when you create a giveaway you are obligating yourself to provide the referenced game to the winner as chosen randomly by SG.

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This will be covered by the "Can I refuse to give a game to a winner?" question.

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Why a space cat and not a space dog ?

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I love cats! Don't everyone?

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But dogs too?

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Dogs have their place, sure.

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"Do I have to remove my entries from higher level giveaways after dropping a level?" Or "What happens if I win a higher level giveaway I no longer can enter after dropping a level?"

Months ago when I was a newcomer I removed all my level 3 giveaway entries once I dropped to level 2 but I wondered what would happen if I didn't remove my entries and ended up winning. Honestly I was even afraid of a possible suspension.

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I'm actually not sure about the answer for this one. Do share if you know.

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I have no idea. This is the first time I gathered enough courage to ask this :P

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I'll find the answer and will include it under "My level dropped. What's going on?".

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That would be very helpful, thank you :)

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I have another question actually. Is "asking a winner to set their private Steam profiles to public" considered a special request/rule and therefore against the SG rules?

I had a winner who refused to set their private profile to public and later on told me that I was breaking the rules by asking them to perform a special action. They sent me the following sentence from the guidelines:

You cannot ask users to perform any special action in order for their entry to be considered valid, such as liking a Facebook page, or following a Twitter account.

I had to ask support to check their profile before sending the key.

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I think it's perfectly acceptable to ask them to make their account public temporarily so that you can check if they have unactivated or multiple wins, and in almost all cases people are willing to do it. In the one case where I had a winner who refused I just did the same like you and let Support check it. I know that some people (e.g. Mully) don't even bother to ask the winner and just let Support handle it. I'm quite tempted to do the same.

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I felt a lot of guilt for wasting support's time for something that could have easily been avoided if the winner was willing. I even tried to friend them and was rejected.

When they mentioned the special action rule I started doubting myself and kinda felt scared as I began to feel that I was doing something wrong the entire time I had asked the same thing to my previous winners with private profiles.

It'd be awesome to have an official response on this.

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This is me basically every time creating a ticket. Most of the stuff are very trivial and I feel they should be to handle without personal involvement from a support member, like rerolls on winners request.

The dropdown for rerolls also does only include options for infractions in the past month as I've seen.

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If the winner has dropped a level then you can ask and have a re-roll.

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if i remember correctly, it's upto the giveaway creator if they want to deliver or re-roll.. re-roll would be granted if the creator decided to go that route though as the entry is technically no longer valid.

i think most decide to still send though.

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Your entry is still eligible to be picked as the winner, but the giveaway creator is free to request a new winner, so in the end it's up to them.

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Thank you so much for clearing this up :)

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If you have the time, could you shed some light on this as well please? :)

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I had no idea of this! This seems different from not being able to request a reroll if somebody is no longer on your WL but entered your WL giveaway when s/he was on the list. But I understand that that's more of a deliberate thing...and I suppose you could troll somebody by adding them to WL, letting them win, then request a reroll...or something.

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"How does the support system work"
Or, alternatively: "Why won't these 'support' 'people' respond to my ticket!? It's been more than 20 minutes!?"

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Looks like allot of work but it's great to have such a document. I would (already) make sections though since it's a big list and it's easy to lose track. I've went ahead and gave a kick-off to consider, hope you don't mind. When making the list, I've found some introduction questions are missing, but I didn't add them.

The list has vanished!

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Looks great! Would appreciate the source so that I can update the OP.

6 years ago
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Happy to hear :) I've send it to you, I'll remove it from my post then once you've updated the OP.

6 years ago
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I suggest uploading that alt faq to some external site that supports more features like anchors, embedded images to insert pictures and gifts, etc... I personally, and I think most people, hate walls of text. Maybe a simple free wordpress.

6 years ago
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Maybe. I can just host the content myself, like I did this page. I'm not sure though if moving this FAQ into a separate site will not decrease the chances that the relevant people actually see it.

6 years ago
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It can also increase the chances that the relevant people actually read it.

6 years ago
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I don't know if you were already planning on adding this in the general CV part, but it may be useful to add in how removed games work with CV since there was some recent confusion with Alan Wake.

6 years ago
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I'll cover this in the CV answer.

6 years ago
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Q: Is steamtrades monitored?
A: Nope. Welcome to Wild West.

6 years ago
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That's a bit out of scope, now that the sites are separate.

6 years ago
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Sgtools is a separate site too. xD But steamtrades is cg's responsibility, so I hoped for some monitoring. :P

6 years ago
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I'm curious. What kind of monitoring do you need and why? Isn't the community-voting on trade feedback solving the main problem that required moderation?

Personally I use barter.vg, where the admin was AWOL for a year, and as long as people could log into the site nobody really complained. Why is steamtrades.com so different that it requires active moderation? And if it does, and barter.vg works well without it, then the latter should be the preferred choice I think.

6 years ago
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What about spammers that keep spamming threads with trades/reflinks/threats/etc, scammers that keep scamming people, accounts that are only there to -rep others, impersonators, anonymous voting (because people are like "oh, he has a lot of +rep, so he couldn't possibly scam the other guy), more information about how to vote (a lot of people still don't know when to allow a review - they don't even know when to -rep someone), etc. Like, I can go to streamtrades and screw all your trade posts. What will you do? -rep me? It's not a legit reason to -rep someone if it's not related to a trade. What if I make 20 accounts to -rep you? 20 people can't possibly lie about a man's reputation, right? xD Also, there's no way to report someone there, to block someone there, no trade faq, etc.

6 years ago
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Sounds like a pretty painful experience. Good thing I hardly use this site. What's your view on barter.vg if I may ask?

6 years ago
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Never used it. I don't find it user-friendly. Also, I was always trading with gifts, not keys.

6 years ago
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Well, you can understand why cg doesn't take an interest in ST, since he's so busy with SG. I mean, he is clearly monitoring Support to make sure they don't make ridiculously hypocritical decisions.

Wait...

Okay, well, he is always upgrading the site with useful tools, instead of forcing users to create a million separate scripts.

Uh...

Hmm...

Maybe he has a 3rd site no one knows about, and that's where he spends his time!

6 years ago
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Heh, heh, heh. xD The problem is that he cares a lot about some things and doesn't care at all about some other things. :P He has made some good changes in the past, but he never cared about the "criminals" of the trading community or the selective bans.

6 years ago
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  • Why does SG has so many FAQs and alternative FAQs?

I'm kidding, please don't kill me. D:

6 years ago
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This one is easy to answer, don't you think? ;-)

6 years ago
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I don't have any FAQs to contribute (not at the moment, anyway). I just wanted to say: You're a hero, Yirg.

6 years ago
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Just a thought: Maybe we can hold this on a collaboration document (e.g. Google Docs) so that people can add questions and already start suggesting answers easier.

GDocs has a "suggest an edit" feature so that not everyone can just drop in and change things.

6 years ago
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Sounds like a great idea! Is there any way for contributors to identify with their SG (or Steam) nicknames instead of Google identities?

6 years ago
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I don't think so unfortunately, they'll either have to log into a Google account, or stay anonymous and just sign off their edits with their usernames.

GDocs is just an example though :) I'll see if there are other collab tools we can use.

6 years ago
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I mostly focused on Markdown because SG uses markdown for formatting.

Recommended

  • Draft looks good.
    • Markdown.
    • Account needed, but you can set your 'First Name' to be your SG username easily.
    • The owner can share a document through a link.
    • Anyone who clicks the link gets their own copy of the document on their account.
    • Once they're "Done Editing", Draft will show the owner that person's changes and let the owner choose what to Keep or Ignore.
    • The owner can see a history of the document's changes.
  • Google Drive looks pretty good as well.
    • Document-style.
    • The owner can set the share link to be comment only, which allows other people (signed in or not) to suggest edits or write comments.
    • Anonymous people who don't wish to sign in can choose to just add their name at the end. "Additional info here -Tsu"
    • Or they can just make a new Google account. They're always free. lol
    • A history of revisions if available.

Not as recommended

  • Etherpad Web
    • Document-style, not markdown.
    • You can create a document without signing up.
    • Color-codes who changed what.
    • The only link available is the owner's URL link (in the browser location bar), so everyone owns and can edit the document.
  • Etherpad Software
    • Document-style, not markdown.
    • Software, but a slow web version is available.
    • You can create a document without signing up.
    • Color-codes who changed what.
    • If edit link is shared: anonymous users can set their names, edit and comment on the document.
    • If comment link is shared: anonymous users cannot set their names or edit the document, but they can comment on the document.
  • Firepad would look amazing except that just anyone can edit.
    • Markdown.
    • No accounts, but you are a guest that can give yourself a name.
    • Anyone can edit.
  • HackMD
    • Markdown.
    • You can create a document as a guest, but anyone with the link can edit.
    • If you are signed in, you can set your documents' permissions.
    • But accounts are OAuth (Facebook/Twitter/Github/Dropbox/Google) and you can't change your name. :(
    • Revision history isn't as good and it doesn't show who changed what.
6 years ago
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Thank you so much for investing the time to do this research. Draft meets the main requirement, so I'll look into it soon. If it works well in practice I'll move all the questions there and will update the OP.

The next step for me would be to write some of the answers. I hope that getting the document to a more useful state would encourage more people to join and contribute answers.

6 years ago
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No problem! I think people would contribute once the document is available, but keeping the thread open should encourage others who don't want to create an account to comment their contributions. :)

6 years ago
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I copied the list of questions to Draft and started adding answers that are from SG FAQ. Let me know what you think about the layout. It seems this is going to be a very long document once all the answers are there. Splitting into multiple documents is possible, but somewhat defeats the idea of having everything in one place.

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I think it looks good. We may just have to add a table of contents at the top later on for easier searching of questions.

6 years ago
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Does Draft support adding TOC or anchored links? I couldn't find such an option, but didn't look too hard.

Also, thanks for the edits. I accepted them and extended this section :-)

6 years ago
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It doesn't support [TOC] but it does support anchored links. I tried it out with [TL;DR](#tl;dr)

6 years ago
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Nice find! I added a "Main Sections" mini-TOC.

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6 years ago
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How to close topics, change the title and category, or edit OP.

6 years ago
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Bumping this just in case there are more questions.

And since I saw there was a recent question on this:
"What do I do if someone marked my GA as Not Received?"

6 years ago
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Thanks for submitting the changes on draftin.com! Your answer about the site interface options is now integrated into the FAQ :-)

6 years ago
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Just a bump

6 years ago
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Another bump

6 years ago
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Closed 6 years ago by Yirg.