[UPDATE] You guys do realize that I am just not talking about the sale, consider it the last straw. I mean butchering the trade system, region locks, rumored (further) price increases in the EU regions, atrocious customer service, laggy unresponsive client, repeatedly crashing servers, neglected faithful gaming communities (TF2) and so on. (ah also the flood of s**t called Greenlight and the Early Access model that produces 9 failures out of 10 attempts, with the "success" being a half-baked mediocre game at best)

[RANT]

I am seriously thinking that Valve is starting to lose the crowd. This sale is disappointing, no event, no good games on sale, no interesting sales. It's just an ordinary boring storefront now.

I know I know they don't have to do this, they don't have to do anything but these little events and quirks were the things that really set Steam aside from the other vendors.

They also killed game trading, spat in the eyes of the TF2 community with an insult of an update (End of the Line) and they only care about milking their F2P cash-cows and not developing a game. The Steam client is still laggy and full of bugs, and their servers crash almost ever other week. I'm starting to think that they simply ran out of ideas and now they'll slowly kill over and die

Probably it is time for a new company to take their place, and do something fresh. Valve might become the next Blockbuster LLC

[RANT OVER]

Anyway I understand if you disagree, it is just an opinion, so take it easy. You think I am entitled? Well yeah I am a paying customer/consumer, of course I am entitled lol.

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Hmmm, 200.000+ games being auctioned off. Yes, Valve is so disappointing in the sale this year.
I guess you had hope for more free goodies and valuable items which you could sell through the market?
No more cheap russian games to profit from with the region locking.

As for the number of shitty games - I blame you yourself.
As consumers we're all equally responsible for this, its because people keep paying for that garbage that its profitable to keep making it.
If we all took a stand and stood for quality in gaming - we'd see a shift because shitty games would no longer turn a profit and it would not be a valid business venture.

But as long as people buy every single piece of garbage title that hits steam - especially those that get on the front page - without discrimination? They'll keep making them and distributing them.

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^this

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auction by definition isnt free, gems were about 1 euro per 1000 during auction peak. This is why it was such great success for them, replace currency with gems and suddenly people think they are given stuff for free.

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apology for poor english
when were you when steam dies?
i was sat at home eating smegma butter when pjotr ring

‘steam is kill’
‘no’

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This (mirror) need to be investigated a little bit, because one single dev, it's probably not enough to be sure if is this is the truth or not, but seeing what Valve has done recently, I'd not be surprised at all.

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wow, that would really be mean like hell. Without even asking? no comment

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It didn't actually say that all copies were donated., which explains that there are so many games.
I assume rest were paid by Valve :P

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Sure, Valve do not clearly specify how many copies of each games were "donated"... but even if Valve have bought 90 of the 100 copies, this dev was not aware that he was donating 10 copies of his game to Valve, for their own profit.

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The only service I see making headway versus Steam is GOG, and that has been beneficial for both. You aren't happy with the Winter Sale because you have been spoiled by Valve's competitors. There are plenty of good deals to be had. I've only made a few purchases, but they were 65 - 80% off.

Steam will continue to adapt so as to stay competitive, just like any other business. If it fails to do so, it will fade away.

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Just because you already own a lot of the games on sale (like me), does not make it a bad sale.

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  • I don't see how there are "no good games on sale". I mean what's the problem, you actually have to scroll/look/search? Or you are just the type of person who doesn't understand it that if there is no clock ticking at the discounted price it means that it's not the best deal yet/might not go lower?
  • You are jealous of others who don't ran to log in every 8 hours to get a community vote off, so they've "lost" cards, but you were able to stay there 24/7 so you've "deserved" the extra cards? And this new system is "screwing" you?

I'm very glad about the region locks and new trade rules. The whole system was unfair, now at least you have to get your hands dirty if you want to wh0re around to get games cheap. The way the RUS items were priced compared to the easters EU (whole EU) prices is just outrageous. Nearly all eastern EU countys have shitty and half-dead economy because of the fcuking communists who are very happyly living right now off of their own economy back at RUS, that survived the USSR era. The whole pricing of RUS was a big middle finger to the EU and now at least they've partially done justice.

I don't know how can any1 expect Steam Support to do a proper job when soooooooooooooooooooo maaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnyyyyyyyyyy silly kids are getting scammed every second around the globe because of this godawful trading. It really sucks that normal people are "punished" in order to prevent millions of idiots from getting scammed, but if that's the price for getting a somewhat decent support I'd say go for it.

  • The changes in TF2 shouldn't come as a surprise, that's the way where all F2P games are going, TF2 was just lucky, because Valve tested this new way of things on CS:GO first. This is unavoidable, but I think people should accept that TF2 ran it's course and don't support devs out of blind faith.

As for greenlight and early access: Again, normal people are punished because of idiots. People just couldn't stop buying sh1t games, so the devs started to build an industry on it. It's all the fault of idiots who buy bad/unfinished games without checking them out first. They are the ones who've ruined this all, not Valve.

I think Valve is going into a bad direction, but the reason for it is because the mindless sheep majority of the crowd forces their hand. The very best example of this are the millions of people who are scammed every day, and the way mindless people ruined greenlight/early access with -again- getting "scammed".

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+1

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+1

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To the people complaining about the price of games this sale, have you actually... shopped around and looked elsewhere at all? It's not like GMG, Gamersgate etc. are offering games any cheaper.

Secondly, OP, you're from Scotland, right? Ignore the following if you're not, and I don't mean for this to sound rude, but the effect of region locks on you personally simply means that you're not able to exploit the system. Not sure how old you are but games here have been the same price for years (hell, I remember paying £50-£60 a pop for N64 cartridges, and from what I gather, it was a similar story for the SNES). The price of games certainly hasn't risen at the rate of inflation.

While some people do have a right to be somewhat annoyed at the region locks, I tend to roll my eyes at anyone from the UK trying to claim that some form of injustice has been committed against them.

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BONUS DUCKS!

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'no event'
--> They just gave away 200K copies on that auction of theirs. And don't tell me that auction was impossible to win, cause I won 2.

'No good games on sale'
--> There are some very good games on sale, it's just that you already own them, don't want them or don't know them. That doesn't make them 'bad'. 660 games in your library from which 650 have only a playtime of 3 hours or lower. Maybe you need to stop buying new ones and play the ones you have?

'no interesting sales' -->
A beer: 2€
Skyrim: 3.75€
A bread: 2.5€
Shadow warrior: 3.50€
Portal 1 + 2: 5€
...

Seriously what do you expect, for valve to just sell them for 0.01€?

'It's just an opinion'
--> Yeah well it's easy to have an opinion, it's another story to back it up with any decent arguments.

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Sale is going better for me, thanks to the regional pricing I have no reason to do going the hassle of trading anymore. And everything is cheaper here. Why would I negatively blame Valve for that.
Oh and I don't understand about Steam being buggy and all, it has dramatically improves for me since first time I'm using it. No more broken offline mode, less crash, etc. So I'm sticking with Valve for time being.

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Closed 9 years ago by Laptoprocker.