Pretty much as the title says. I did have a GTX460, but I might as well upgrade while I have the chance. My budget is about £100-180, hopefully. I'd rather you didn't recommend AMD cards, since the AMD FX-4100 becomes a brat rendering anything more than a box falling off of a shelf. I was thinking about getting the GTX 660 non-Ti, since a lot of people recommended it to me. Opinions?

EDIT: I've been reading all of your comments, even if I didn't reply, and some of you do have me swaying to AMD a little, but I would still miss my PhysX. I should have also mentioned that since my case is only a midi, that it's pretty important to have an external exhaust on the card, as opposed to the usual fans (I honestly have no idea what they're called.)

In any case, I do appreciate the feedback so far.

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Well you can get a 760 with 180 pounds I think.

It beats out the 660 Ti by a bit and is generally cheaper.

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Hmm it seems like it's more expensive over in the UK then. I did a quick google calculation and these come out at around 180 pounds.

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Well, this 660 ti is right on your budget so why not move up from a 660?

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Well, the only reason I haven't considered it is because of the fans. My case is only a midi, so it's pretty impractical. External exhausts are pretty much a must in my case. I probably should have mentioned that, my bad. :c

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I hear that the 700 series ain't as good as the 600 series. That's why they cost as much as the 600 series.

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One should never go with AMD cards. The 660 isn't too bad, although a 670 or 680 would be better. So very sorry your card died ~ that sux! I had it happen to me before too. Shop around for the best prices though. I always check newegg.com first. Good luck to you bluerage.

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Sadly Newegg is a US site, the closest I can think of to it would be Scan, since it has the best value, as well as loyalty discounts. I would have thought about a 670 or 680, but they tend to use a hell of a lot more power than the 660, which kind of swayed me away from them.

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How big of a PSU do you have, then?

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you are right, cuz who likes better price/performance ratio anyway?

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AMD has better price/performance only on the lower end and mid range cards (which I would still personally never use for hardcore gaming). Nvidia cost, but you get better drivers and support, regular performance increase patchs rather than just patching the latest games to get them to not glitch on AMD, etc. The reason behind that is Nvidia has created their own development tools for game creators and work along side them. I would suggest going Nvidia GTX 660Ti or GTX 760 or greater for gaming, anything below that go AMD... Nvidia GTX 680 and 780 are beasts towards ultra resolution, lagfree gaming, the 690 and 790 however are overkill and well overpriced.

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Better drivers? They're essentially the same now except in mobile and multi-gpu configurations. Both companies increase performance with drivers so not sure where you got that from. Development tools? The only thing is they give money to devs to optimize for their cards better. And apparently you've never heard of the 7970 Ghz? On par with the 680 and cheaper?

1 decade ago
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Don't bother trying to fight fanboyism with facts. Zealotry is unswayed by reason.

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nVidia drivers have a faster release cycle, but you're essentially being given beta drivers. I've had ten times as many problems with nVidia's driver updates than I have with ATI's, because ATI puts quite a long time into actually making sure their drivers work. But that means you get them slower.

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I personally haven't had any issues with nVidia drivers (not using Beta thou), and my brother using AMD had major with his even running some of the latest games at first (they released fixes for it). Geforce Experience, and yes Development Tools, make it better for most games - best performance / quality graphics settings. I've even helped in some small game development and found Nvidia easier to work with as they own PhysX (AMD fakes it), etc...

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My Geforce 9800GT is still working without any problem :D It passed the test of years

1 decade ago
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I had a 8800GT for about two years before that died, and then moved on to the 9800GTX+, it still works to this day in my brothers PC.

1 decade ago
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my 9800gt died earlier this year(up until the death it still worked for what I was playing), upgraded to GTX 650 and I almost wish my old card had died sooner

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i had a nVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT for 2 years and it died. then i used my lifetime warranty and got a new nVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT for free. the new nVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT runs perfectly

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Also, my case is dust proof, so nothing gets in there. It helps protecting the condition of shit

1 decade ago
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Got a 9500GT. 4 years and still going!

1 decade ago
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I'm still running one of these, though the games are finally starting to whine through bad fps. Overall I am very happy I bought this card years ago.

1 decade ago
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I had 8800GTS and I sold it last year and it was still working :P

1 decade ago
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I just bought a 8800GTs a few months ago and it's doing fine. XD

1 decade ago
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First, use the UK Amazon.
Second, try to get the most powerful card for your price range. I'm afraid I can't help you out there cause of regional differences in pricing.

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I did that, and that's about all I could see worth buying.

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Hmm, I would say that's a good card.

1 decade ago
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I'm not sure if this applies to you, but I went through 3 Nvidia cards ( 6800 GS, GT 430 and 560 TI) that would randomly reset the pc and eventually not last more than a minute or two after booting up, if it would turn on at all. It turns out it was some still unknown issue with Windows and installing to Windows 8 (or any Linux) completely removed all issues for me. The cards were completely unusable in Vista and Windows 7, but ran smoothly in Linux and Windows 8.
Edit: To be more precise, it is an issue with Windows and certain hardware combinations. One of the cards that didn't work for me is running fine in a different pc with Vista. No one seems to know exactly what causes it.

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A friend had a similar issue with his GTX460, luckily he had warranty. Mine has been completely fine for me, though. Only after a whole year did it decide to die on me - I think I was about 2 hours of gameplay through Payday 2 before my PC decided to freeze/reboot.

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That is what happened to me as well. First one ran about 4 years before it started. I thought it was dead so bought a new one that lasted about a month, next one started immediately.

1 decade ago
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Personally, i would go with a gtx 760,its better than the 660 ti and cheaper. Btw, why do you hate amd gpus?

1 decade ago
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PhysX support.

1 decade ago
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I don't care about enabling PhysX so I usually just go with AMD cards.

1 decade ago
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I'm a bit of a vanity whore, sadly.

1 decade ago
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buy either a nVIDIA GeForce GTX 760, nVIDIA GeForce GTX 660, or AMD Radeon HD 7850

1 decade ago
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Even though you don't want AMD cards, I'd still recommend 7870 XT since its a superior card compared to the 660 Ti if you look at benchmarks.

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180 wont upgrade shit along the NV side.

1 decade ago
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Get 760, i recently bought it aswell.
So far im happy.

1 decade ago
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Try the Radeon 9250, it's quite nice.

1 decade ago
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My 6670 just recently died and I upgraded to a 7790, I chose this card because it was the fastest for it's price compared to nvidia cards. And the games it came with vs free to play game cash (nvidia) also helped sway me. I would say even though you don't want an AMD card get the 7870, unless you want Splinter Cell Blacklist which is coming with the 660.

Plus I would take into consideration that both of the next-gen consoles have AMD CPUs, so I would assume developers will be optimizing more for AMD tech now and in the future than nvidia tech.

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Well, consoles and PCs have been on different levels for a long time. I guess only time will tell, which doesn't really help in my case.

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Yes they have, but the next-gen consoles are the closest to PC in terms of CPU architecture than they ever have. And since developers have, over the years, been catering more for the console gamers I would assume that they will continue this path for the next-gen as well. Which will more than likely mean more optimizations for AMD cards and less for nVIDIA. I love both companies AMD for their budget and nVIDIA for their mobile chips and PC drivers.

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The next-gen consoles basically are CPUs running ATI graphics cards.

1 decade ago
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fastest for its price compared to nvidia cards?so you've never heard about gtx 650 Ti Boost? the 7790 and gtx 650 Ti boost are on the same price but the 650 Ti Boost is superior to the 7790 in performance

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If your budget is only $270 get an AMD, they are better on the low cost end. Yes, I did read your entire post.

Edit: Also, consider ordering from Germany and having it shipped. Electronics are cheap over there and delivery is often free of charge.

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This is what pcpartpicker (UK) is telling you to pick.

nV 660 or AMD 7870. Benchmarks suggest the 660 is better but it's an issue of optimisation. Take your pick.

Edit: The 7870 does anti-aliasing and anisotropic filtering much, much better than the 660.

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I suppose it's more down to the game, I'm not sure about the majority of my games, but a fair amount of them have more nVidia support, iirc. If I were to consider the 7870, would any resellers use an external exhaust rather than twin fans?

1 decade ago
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AFAIK AMD cards have never done that.
Dual fan is better for cooling anyway, unless you're going to be lazy and never clean the computer.

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I tend to clean my computer every so often, it's become habit. It's just the hot air goes out of the back, rather than through the case. the case has fans for in-take and out-take, I just prefer there being less heat in the case at all.

1 decade ago
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RIP
I didn't know her, but my condolences.

1 decade ago
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RIP in peace graphics card

1 decade ago
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Rest in peace in peace... :|

1 decade ago
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I thought you'd be among the people who knew this really old le funy maymay XDDD from like 2004 :V

1 decade ago
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I knew about it but it just irritates me.

1 decade ago
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RIP in peas

1 decade ago
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Take a 600er one, because from then it is compatible with nvidia shield. though i find the GTX 560 TI better as graphic card.

1 decade ago
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i have a 7870 and it's pretty dam good

1 decade ago
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I feel sorry for you :(

1 decade ago
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you should've mentioned what resolution you are using. 1080p and above go with the 7870, under that 7790 should be enough.

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Yeah, my bad. I'm always using 1080p though.

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7870 XT if you can, if not a 7870. I prefer AMD here because of the budget as the cards have an excellent price to performance ratio and I can personally vouch for their quality (it's not some cheap unreliable brand as may be assumed by its generally lower prices)

if you decide to stay in the green camp, as you would most probably do, then I would recommend the 660 Ti.

For the brand go with ASUS/MSI if you can, they are very reliable.

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Have you looked at the nvidia geforce GT 630 or 640

630 is about $70
640 is about $120

I'd say both cards can run plenty of the games out there, including BF3

1 decade ago
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He said he wanted to upgrade, not downgrade.

Anyways those buying those cards now is pretty silly.

1 decade ago
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^ Pretty much that.

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If you want the most power for your money, I advise you to camp this site every day (search for the models you want/discount for the store you're buying from etc). The GTX 760 was ~180 not too long ago.

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I have a habit of checking that every so often, usually for games though. Cheers for the link though.

1 decade ago
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ATI Radeon HD 7870

1 decade ago
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MSi GTX 670 Power Edition. Mount an Accelero Twin Turbo II on it and sail away to the sunset.

1 decade ago
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RIP bluerage's graphics card.

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Closed 1 decade ago by bluerage.