TF2 / CS / Dota 2 Keys untradable for 1 week

Its a grey area in respect to Valve's TOS. I'm not really sure, but obviously buying games from a trader with Paypal has always been possible.

Hello =) I'm disappointed as well

except that paypal isn't really common in RU

bad for mass trading

I've been selling both gifts and keys for paypal for years now and never had any problems so far, only thing that you might want to keep in mind is that if you only trade/buy from the same person and never get any games from other sources valve might mistake your account as being an alt of that trader or the other way around.

many russians use webmoney

A) Calling it "anti-fraud measures" is bullshit.
B) "If you do not like this practice, you are not mandated to make use of their service any longer." Also Bullshit. Valve has over 90% of the PC gaming market. Most of the PC games released these days require Steam. So if you want to play them you either use Steam or GTFO.
C) The screw-up was with the PC gamers who let Valve run with a virtual monopoly. They shouldn't have any right to restrict trading/selling of your purchases at all, but people are perfectly happy to give up their rights for the convenience of that "centralized platform."

i stary with obvious thing: Yes my english is bad and i know that you get caner if you read this.

Ok we have a basic then we can speak about trade. If you use this only as a platfor for game is good but there is a ot of peope who get more money selling steam stuff then in normal work. If you leave on one of rich country you dont feel or see the reason of selling this but here in Poland for work in office you can get 65-70 it's less then 20 euro for day work. Someone who sel games and get fat wallet can earn a 50 euro per day. Thats why people sit and trade - because get better money for playing on games then sit in unwanted work and get much much less.

and words ,, If you do not like this practice, you are not mandated to make use of their service any longer" are just so stupid that i cant even image any word to describe it.

If you do not understand something does not mean that it is stupid.

Steam is killing the shadow economy that is untaxed and almost impossible to police seems to be the general idea here. I wouldn't want governments to turn towards me potentially over this kind of stuff. Also I don't see how supporting all this trade and price exploit actually helps Steam itself any, so why SHOULD they support it? I'm really confused as to how people can argue this is so evil?

I was gonna say something along the same lines. Since I buy all my games on the Steam store.

But as you said "Inb4 angry traders lashing out at me for having an opinion."

Sad but true. It was quite easy to make profit before the March/April TF2 update when many items (like strange weapons with no killstreak kits applied) became marketable. Then Valve raised in-game store prices for some countries, then tf2 supply crate key went to 13,66 refs and now this shit. And i can't cash out right now because of falling ruble. Dunno how long should i wait.
Gonna rip hair on my ass out

eh the online Mann Co Store is the same thing you access you in game, its going to have the same effect

I lol'd

Soon you will find only these words in their TOS =)

It has nothing to do with cards. Those aren't used as a currency mostly. Think of cards like .10 cent pieces whereas keys are bills.

The problem about cards is, that they aren't closely as stable as TF2 Keys.

Well considering the lock in few days i don't think they will go cheaper, seem to be the reason valve did this

I lol'ed

LOL

steam market page itself

if you go on market and click any tf2, dota 2 or cs:go item you see this text

thank you guise :-D it was so obvious i didn't click the link and was surprised not to see an announcement

thought it was merely to point out the item

Their goal is to eliminate trading, not make it safer.

Using Paypal to trade games is prohibited by the TOS.

REALLY bad news.

Maybe it will end up like Origin, where there is no trading at all.

yes

Remember when you could buy a key with 3 Ref?

Pepperidge farm remembers.

But Ubisoft will get part of that income, and nobody wants to get Ubisoft to make money with shitty games!

(Also: There are 3 community offer there, I don't think it's a particularly safe currency to use)

This.

Instead of TF-keys will be probably using sacks of gems.
Sacks of gems is stacking so it's easier to sell/trade too. (Wish they'd enable it for other stuff, too, currently very few items are stackable)

They have to stabilize first though. The price for a bag of gems has gone up by 50 cents in the last 24 hours, and they don't really have a "default" price like keys do.

well but i guess gems will dissapear after this event ?