The retail copies were shipped with DRM, but it was removed with a patch exactly one week after release.
I also noticed a decent performance increase after that patch, which may or may not be related to the DRM removal. Would be interesting to know how much resources that shit eats on a PC.
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Online is pretty much the one time you don't need DRM - you are already not able to connect to the server with the duplicate key or whatever the kids use these days.
Also if companies only used DRM within reason these things would never be an issue in the first place :p
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Shit man, i did not realise EA's opinion on fascism was so strong. I would have expected this from Activision, but EA? Dear lord.
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Unless I'm mistaken, EA still out-stupids Activision. I can at least respect Activision for achieving an utterly successful chokehold on its abused consumer base. EA however is pissing everyone off with terrible decisions backed by terrible PR. People were defending Diablo 3 back in the day. But I don't see anyone supporting SimCity, for instance.
Activision is abusive. EA is retarded. Ubisoft is clueless. Pick your poison.
-Edit- Unrustling jimmies.
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Ruffled jimmies are one of the worlds leading causes of ragequitting. Be safe kids.
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That's it. I believe, CD Project can figure out a great game, everybody will buy. i trust in them :)
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Really? You really believe that milions of people who pirated previous games will BUY Witcher 3? Stop fooling yourself :P
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Hey now. They were totally just trying the game first.
I'm sure they bought it later. Or at least they will...eventually.
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I did the same... But the majority of those who pirated it didn't bought it afterwards. At least I should be glad that there are still decent people out there, and they made enough money with W2 (and W1 before that) to develop the next game in the series.
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It was one of the most pirated game. That's just the way it is- a lot of people will buy the game, but waaay more people will pirate it, despite the game being awesome (which I'm sure W3 will be ;))
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Every game ever is the most pirated - when it suits someone to make that claim.
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News flash, both Witcher games have sold millions of copies.
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News flash, both Witcher games have been pirated by milions of gamers. People that won't buy Witcher 3, even if they have enjoyed previous two games (most of them, anyway).
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News flash, you're making the same stupid case pro-DRM that the big company reps are. The fact that people pirated the game does not mean they would buy it if they could not pirate it. God i thought people would have understood this after so many years of DRM bullshit, guess i was wrong.
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I am not justyfying DRMs- they are pretty useless anyway, because pirates usually find a way to bypass them and they only end up making things worse for those buying original copies... But I really do believe that some (not EVERY one, mind you) of those 4,5 milions who pirated Witcher 2 would buy the game given no other reason. And sorry for the late response, but I tend to forget about clicking "Replies" section when I'm on steamgifts (we need some notification system!)
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I prefer no DRM, but I love Steam as a distribution platform. I like having all my games in a single convenient place.
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Or, you can't ignore/pirate those games (except when you want to play multi) and spare your money on games like Witcher 3 ;) I know I won't spend a single cent on anything related to Mass Effect after you know what.
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Around 3,647 people use this script which highlights 3rd party DRM that is used on Steam, so we can avoid buying it. Probably many more people are watching out for bad DRM, since most people don't bother with/know how to find and use such scripts.
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The fact that you didn't mention Dragon Age greatly disturbs me.
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Hey calm down, i was just making a reference to SimCity's DRM...
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drm is stupid, if it wasnt for pirated copies i would never have played witcher 1 & 2. After playing and loving the games i bought witcher 1 on steam and a collectors edition box for witcher 2
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"People on those torrents were actually asking people not to download our game, because we [weren't using DRM]"
So far as I see it those people really don't care if it's DRM'd or not. One thing for sure because of no DRM their game would be easily shared peer to peer.
Still, I tip my hat off to the devs.
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There's nothing wrong with DRM. The problem is DRM that oversteps its boundaries. If you're really going to celebrate every game without DRM and boo every game with it, your concern amounts to "EA isn't giving its shit get taken for free and that pisses me off."
I pirate my share, but I don't act like I'm entitled to. If a company wants to protect their shit I can't blame them, unless it does go too far.
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Avoid DRM (except Steam's built-in DRM) by installing this.
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Yay for nay DRM! I'm glad these developers are taking this approach. I'm pretty bummed about the 'all PC gamers are criminals/pirates' approach that some companies take. While understandable, I just feel like the junk some DRM puts on your HDD is way out of line. Also the always online crap is pretty lame. Yes, I am aware that Steam is a form of DRM but at least I chose to use it (I know some people didn't have that choice, yes) and grew fond of the platform and the services it provides.
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Finally someone who gets it. There is no SecuROM or SolidShield or StarForce or Tages or GFWL or Social club or Uplay that is going to stop piracy. EVER.
So the most decent thing you can do is put effort into your game, listen to the community and rely on honest gamers. With all the sales on Steam, there is no need to pirate games any more.
I still haven't finished first Witcher, but if I like it, I'll but 2 and 3 as well.
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Props for CD Projekt RED!
EDIT: Can't wait for the cyberpunk game to come out
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I will continue to throw money at CDProjekt due to their no-DRM stance. DRM has never stopped pirates from doing their thing, but it has stopped me, a paying customer, from playing games. While I support the dev's right to make money off their games, DRM that affects paying customers is just the dumbest idea since the Pet Rock.
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+1 from me. DRM on these kinds of games never stops the "end user" pirate. Just hit up your nearest torrent site and there's a version with all the DRM removed by some dedicated expert. DRM only ever interferes with the play experience of legitimate buyers.
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id hesitate to be honest... cdp arent exactly flawless in how they treat their customers... do you remember when they yanked down their forums for about a month after the game came out just so that they wouldnt have to deal with any concerns or problems people were experiencing? i thought that was a pretty shoddy move on their part to be honest. the game was pretty good, but i think their treatment of customers leaves a bit to be desired, along with the fact the game will most likely be censored again in some regions...
i want witcher 3, but after witcher 2's launch treatment, i feel kinda uncertain trusting them to be honest... which is a pity, because my respect for them was on such a massive high after the first game which i simply adored. i guess its just unwise to ever trust any publisher on their own merits, only each individual game on its own.
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I seriously don't mind DRM, as long as it doesn't require me to make a separate account for each DRM...
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Steam is not DRM. Steamworks is drm. Steam is just a store, and in that store there is even drm-free titles.
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Speaking with Kotaku, CD Projekt RED game designer Maciej Szczesni said, “We are trying to get rid of DRM. If someone wants to pirate a game, eventually he will.”
Managing director Adam Badowski continued, “Which is bad, of course. But you can’t do anything about it, so. We want to give the best user experience possible. When we removed DRM, people on those torrents were actually asking people not to download our game, because we [weren't using DRM].”
These guys are awesome.
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