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I would second this. I've been able to run every game I own at 1080p/ Max settings with my 970. GTAV is totally maxed out and Arkham Knight I turned off like one thing (dynamic paper or something) and both keep a constant 60 frames.

OP would probably be happy with a R9 but for an extra $100ish I think the 970 is worth the small delay saving the extra money would bring.

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Wait? This is supposed to be a generation change moment in GPUs and waiting a few months would probably grant you more bang for your buck.

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This is actually a pretty good tip that I've been thinking about. Do you think the 970 will drop in price?

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It's next generation time for GPUs this year. So it's a bit like asking (back then): will the PS3 drop in price after PS4 has launched? Almost certainly, but will you still want a PS3 then? ;)

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Yes. Because I'm a cheap bastard (actually I'm poor xD )

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Haha yeah it's expensive af here too (still). But, even though I would like to have one, if I had the $$$ I would certainly use it for a pc upgrade. Funny thing is the 970 costs twice as much as a ps3 here in Brazil. Fuck this country, man. I know it's supposed to be more expensive, but twice as much... that's too much.

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care to elaborate a bit?

Edit: nvm, think I get it now

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AMD has a new tech generation called Polaris and Nvidia has Pascal. Lookup those words. Eurogamer and Ars Technica are two good places to start.

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interesting
If everything goes well I might begin building a desktop in a few months time, 'bit tired of my gt650m XD

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Yeah, exactly. I'm far from a hardware expert, but both Nvidia and AMD are launching their next generation of GPUs within the next few months. This means better technology in every price bracket and yes, a price drop for old tech cards. Personally I would wait for both makers to launch their lines and then buy the best card my budget allows.

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Hey, no problem! :)

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Dude wait for the new GPU with Polaris (AMD) or Pascal (Nividia) you will get more for less money than a gtx960-80.
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And 1 reason why you should not buy now a GPU because you have no regular price drop because $ value (depend on your nation value).

Edit : Wait for mid-end 2016 and buy than a new gpu .... with 8 gb vram like a ps4 or xbox one. // Nex gen gpu vram :) go with time dude.

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I think you've already answered your own question.
The 380 will play games quite a bit better at 1080p than the 370, so if you can afford it and intend to upgrade to 1080p before getting another card, then I'd get the 380.

You can compare the two here and decide for yourself

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I would really wait until I saved money for a 970 than get one of those power hungry ovens.

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I went from a GeForce GTX 460 to a Radeon 260X to reduce electricity consumption. AMD's video drivers are still ridiculously buggy. (There was more than a year's worth of driver releases that crashed on starting Skype, for just one example.)

Wait until you can buy what you want from NVIDIA after the generational refresh.

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I'd suggest saving money for nVidia's card.

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Not in that price range. AMD with the 300 series beats anything under GTX 970 for slightly cheaper prices and same power consumption.

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same power consumption?are you joking?

and btw amd 300 series are exactly the same gpu's with 200series but with a little higher clock speeds.

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I know, yet it still managed to beat the NVidia counterparts in its price range.
And, well, okay, the Sapphire cards tend to match the higher-consuming NVidia ones. Still, when I started looking for a new GPU in the same price range, I was surprised to see very similar consumption tests on some R9 380 and GTX 960 variants.

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no offense but R9 380 has similar power consumption with 970.960 has HUGE difference at power consumption with r9 380.have a look here.

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Wait for pascal or polaris.

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380 :3

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First things first. Check out your power supply. You'll need to open your case to do this, but no biggie if your doing an upgrade anyway.

If you have a 700W or above, chances are your already good to go. Most computers I see from stores only have 400~450W, but some of the newer cards have 600W requirements (use less then that, of course, but its to account for everything else in the computer drawing power.)

Sometimes you may need to do a little digging to find PSU requirements. No end of supposedly dedicated computer stores online or offline do not supply this information readily.

Note that the R9 380 typically has a 550W requirement, while the 370 requires 450W. I don't know about the 370, but the 380 consumes 225W.*
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm

From my experience you can usually chop 50 off for Sapphire cards, since they're pretty good on power. The Sapphire version is rated for 500W, but 850W is recommended for CrossFireX.
http://www.sapphiretech.com/productdetial.asp?pid=421F760D-5247-4A25-BA5D-74A7A3139CD7&lang=eng

You'll also need to do some research to make sure your motherboard is capable of hosting the card. Both in physical terms, and software. As well as your case too, given the sheer bulk of the card. It can be easy to underestimate how big they are and have PSU Wires trailing all over the place.

Since you hadn't at time of my own post provided any other information about your computer all I can offer personally is the above advice. I hate deciding on graphics card upgrades. Too many damn factors involved. Had one once which was rated for a 450W PSU, but of course, no where did it say such when it was ordered (I was putting it in for my sister who ordered it without asking) ... she only had a 300W PSU. Needless to say, it was having a LOT of issues following until figuring out what the problem was, though that was years ago.

Consider your monitor too. Is it "Standard HD" 720p or "Full HD" for 1080p? Maybe even Ultra HD for the 2160p displays? Upgrading a graphics card is nice, but no matter how nice your card is, it's still going to look horrible on the screen if the screen cannot support the full range of display options.

Did I mention I hate upgrading graphics cards? Rather build up a new computer from scratch any day of the week and build it around a new graphics card.

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Depends. What PSU is that exactly? the total power drain of a system with a Sapphire R9 380 4GB card is under 300 W, so a really good 450 W PSU should handle it.

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It can take the R9 380 without any power fluctuations, but eventually (hopefully within 12 months after the card) you'll have to buy some decent PSU, preferably with active PFC.

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The R9 380. The best card in price/performance in that category. The next step would be the GTX 970 for double the price, then an R9 Fury X for even double.

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If you can afford to wait and want longevity, the current NVidia cards aren't the best bet. The AMD ones perform better with DX12. So either wait for the new generation of NVidia and buy a cheaper card from the new stock, or just use it as a good point to buy AMD hopefully at lower prices.

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who cares about direct x 12? only a handful of games can currently use it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_DirectX_12_support
and just cause 3 is fine with dx11

go with nvidia gtx 960+

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Why should OP go with the slower card for the same price? o.O
And funny enough, I remember this "who cares about DirectX" argument when DX9 came out and everyone was still on their not-so-long-ago purchased DX8.1 cards…

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from my experience with both, games are more optimised and run better with nvidia cards, simple as that. The latest gtx cards support direct x 12, so it isn't anything ground breaking. Nor are either cards significantly different in price.

Feel free to believe what you think is better but see comments in both links and decide for yourself.
https://youtu.be/C70BubcRcTQ
^mind you in the above video the guy is testing the 960 with a crappy cpu

http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-R9-380-vs-GeForce-GTX-960
^crunching numbers is great but does it really represent what's on the screen? amd is good for speed but nvidia is better for textures

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Strange, I have a video where the R9 380 comfortably leads against the GTX 960:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTpNZEW31G0

And, well, games aren't exactly more optimised. Games that use Gameworks run better on NVidia, simple as that. Then again, Gameworks is made to make sure that engines that use it run good on NVidia and NVidia only. :) This is why Unreal Engine games run so bad on AMD.

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I think you better start with a new PSU

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get the r9 390 its the best for the money

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I just upgraded from a Gigabyte Radeon HD7850 to an Asus Geforce GTX970 OC. Before buying the 970 i waited about 5 months in which i documented myself. Atm is the best price-quality-performance you can get at a good price ... mid-budget. Never going back to AMD. I missed a lot of the features from Nvidia and now it feels great.

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Erm… GTX 970 is almost twice as expensive as OP's given budget…

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I don't know the prices from his country but here in Romania I managed to buy mine second-hand from someone who used it about 10 months, with about 290$ including the rest of the 26 months remaining warranty. If he's lucky enough he can catch a good second-hand deal and with warranty period still available. You don't have to invest the money on brand new hardware. People tend to overestimate the aging faults of hardware.

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Weeeeeeell… that is not that much cheaper than a US price (320-400 USD).
Anyway, OP is from SA, so you can calculate with +50% to +100% in prices.

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Ouch ... my bad then.

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Seriously go for nvidia cards, not amd, they feel more optimised& compatible with most games-I've never regretted using them, but I have regretted getting an ati card.

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how so?

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Yeah, my 7970 says you are repeating silly internet stuff.

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Get a 960 GTX+ instead for the same price you want, I am dead serious. You will regret getting a ATI/Raedon.

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buy 960.the performance is almost as good as 380 but with much more stability and very low power consumption.you can keep your old psu.

380 is buggy card at dx11.don't buy it.

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If you don't want to wait for pascal, you could get a 390, if you're lucky, you can find one below $250 if not, yeah, stick with the 380 or get the 380x, it's only 30 bucks more

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green of nvidia

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Dude wait for the new GPU with Polaris (AMD) or Pascal (Nividia) you will get more for less money than a gtx960-80.
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$ Value is Increased after the lunch from n900GPU's so you pay now more for less : (-)Time = no regular price drop like last season .
This is why you have more for less money with the new gpu (Pascal vs Polaris)
;) just a impact from currency inflation/deflation.

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Nvidia Pascal GPU will kick ass

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AMD are only good on GPU they will be pretty equal.

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I run the R9 380 Dual X and have had no problems running most games in 1080p with max settings. Only a few games I've had to lower Shadings or turn off v-synch.
As for being buggy in DX11 games - I've been told this by at least 10 people - all nVidia card owners - and I have had absolutely no issues with any of my games - fallout 4 ran with max settings in 1080p and the only issues I had with that game was crashing due to the save game bug - easily remedied.
Even Ark - Survival Evolved runs great at 1080p - I only have a single card - and I've seen video's of it by people who run SLI 970's who can't seem to handle the textures that mine does.
With the performance that the R9 380's produced against the GTX 970's in the DX12 Pretests and benchmarks, I would pretty much disregard the nVidia Fanboys and do your own research into the two comparisons.
And before anyone flames me for being an AMD Fanboy, Every card I've bought for the last 12 years has been nVidia - because they were the best value for money vs performance - but AMD has been catching up and this last round of cards (even though they are pretty much just overclocked versions of the previous set) has out performed nVidia in almost every test I've seen.

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But… the AMD RadeOn 6800 series was one of the best price/performance GPU family in the past half decade or so… Not on par with the beloved GeForce 4200 Ti, but still.

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