Hijack so OP reads. Spamming thanks is more irritating than saying nothing IMO. So: put and original text or shut up (not you but the guy who enters)
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Why thank anyone for a B-day or X-mas gift? You did it once some years ago. Isn't that enough? Who gives a damn now? The only thing that's damaged are individuals with the mindset like yours that feel that their arm is being twisted to say thanks because they're no longer grateful for the generosity of others and feel it mundane to say it. OP is correct in thinking that it should be the general attitude, but incorrect in assuming that it should be expected. On that note though, I'd rather people like you didn't say thanks because we all know that it's coming out of your asses.
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So, what you are saying is, everyone should spam thanks on every giveaway they enter, and that would make everyone happy? Well, that's exactly what i was talking about. For you, comment saying: "thanks" equals gratefulness? Community certainly is taught that way by threads like these, and that is creating a mindless zombie horde spamming thanks everywhere and expecting to get spammed thanks in return.. And now you suggest a rule for it? Do you know what that will give you? It will give you more of let me quote you: "I'd rather people like you didn't say thanks because we all know that it's coming out of your asses."
And no, I am not ungrateful person, if that's what you are trying to say here.
And no, [spoiler]"thanks" != gratefulness[/spoiler].. It can represent it in some cases, but in more and more cases it has nothing to do with it..
This might get me thrown out of more groups, not like I care much any more..
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You're not? This is precisely why you're ungrateful. Instead of finding alternate, more meaningful ways of expressing gratitude, you spend your time bashing the most common expression and try to use that to justify why you don't do anything at all. Spamming "thanks" is certainly not gratitude, but saying it just happens to be the simplest way to express it for those that actually mean it. You've mentioned to everyone how oppressed you are by feeling that the community is forcing people to type 6 letters and that you and others do it just to 'avoid frowns' - that sentiment is the real issue in the community.
Had you a grateful attitude, it wouldn't matter if you said thanks or not. People just want to know and see that what they do is appreciated by the people that they're doing it for. A "thank button that gives them 1 point" is quite an unfortunate thing to feel towards gifters and shows how little effort some people think generosity is actually worth. It has become such a process that some have become desensitized to what a great thing it really is, and that's what's really sad about it.
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This. If you start feeling obligated to say thanks, then it's kinda hard to convince everyone you're grateful eh? But think about it. For those who do say thanks on giveaways, at least some of them really mean it yet many of you muddle them in with the people who just spam. That's kind of unfair don't you think? Saying thanks is never obligatory but when you start feeling that it is - that's when the question arises, "are you actually grateful?"
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The answer seems to be 'no' in most cases.
I will never post 'Thanks.' /endpost in a giveaway. It is mindless, generic, lazy, and spammed already.
What I like to see people doing:
Discussing the giveaway, or game being given away, or user giving the game away.
Talking about not entering because they own it, but their 2 cents/thoughts on the game.
If it is a basic 'thanks' minimum of repeating the gift sender's name/alias, and bonus points for personal interest, be it why they're entering/want the game, or why they haven't bought it for themselves etc.
Nobody is going to sit there and read through the 30+ pages of "Thanks!" "thanks" "Thanks." "Thank you!"
If a gifter is reading comments, give them something fun to read as part of your thanks, a joke, a riddle, some personality. Otherwise you're just increasing their scroll bar, to artificially inflate an ultimately meaningless number on YOUR profile to feel better about another ultimately meaningless ratio, which some people in this community have decided is of utmost importance.
Threads like this aren't going to make me upset about being about 100 comments behind my entries. If someone feels like I'm a bad person for that, then they are free to do so. I think thanking people who consistently giveaway games to support and excite the community, be it with puzzles, or forum interactions, or just for fun, even if you aren't entering, even if you own the games and just want to yell 'fuck yeah!' in the comments is more important.
Going to someone's youtube page, or checking out their band, or their blog because they asked you to in the info is millions of times more productive than mindlessly typing out 'thanks.'
I think a 'thanks' button that automates the process is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. You're literally suggesting that because people aren't taking the time to make a gesture, that you should remove any meaning it could have.
IF - you tied that to some kind of Karma system, or a 'community good will' stat in people's profiles, that gives the gifters a stat or a badge of awesomeness, then sure, go for it. It shouldn't make a post, it shouldn't be about bolstering a post count for the sake of appearances for the people entering the giveaways.
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Ok, am I grateful is not the point here, and your opinion on me is not my business, so I'll just skip it.
I actually did once suggest a thank button, but one which would donate 1P instead of just give it. That would cost thanker 1P, and probably clean some sheep out of the way, but meh..
I'm not bashing expression here. I'm bashing system that's using that expression, for as I see it, its gone faulty. And whats going on here is that system itself doesn't see itself as faulty, and calls me delusional and gives me shit for calling it faulty and what ever.
The truth is, I'm tired of same discussions over and over again, and I'll leave sgifts sooner or later.
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When I say thanks when entering a giveaway, I genuinely mean it. There are too few people in the world who are actually willing to give and I thank them for that.
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What about a text including why you are entering or just another word than thanks so youre not one of the many?
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I did giveaway quite some games. Most were seperate keys from bundles though, which I gave away in Traders Guild chat or on the forums here.
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So the only effort you'll make to say thank you is with the push of a button? You can't even be arsed to type a six letter word? That says a lot about you, and none of it good.
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this is a unique idea that has never been posted before.
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It's in hopes that the creator feels warm and fuzzy inside :<
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Because it's nice to see that people can take 5 damn seconds out of their time to thank someone for a game they bought with their hard earned money to giveaway to other people. If you (not you specifically) can't be bothered to spend a few seconds to show your appreciation for someone giving away something for free to the community, then I can't be bothered to buy games to giveaway (at least for public giveaways, anyway). I make private/group giveaways because I usually get at least as many comments as entries (if not more comments). It's nice to know people actually appreciate that I'm buying things, when I could easily be buying one of the many games in my wishlist for myself instead.
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Hundred of pages? LOL
Here's my argument! includes hyperbole to make argument sound plausible
Please. Scrolling through a few pages to find comments is not hard if you actually care to read them. I can scroll very quickly (about 4-6 seconds) and identify all actual comments on each page.
The thank you button just makes 'thank you' even more impersonal :/
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I once read someone complain that people spammed "thanks" because then he couldn't see proper comments that really had something to say.
Now QQ about not saying thanks.
What should I do? Fill giveaways with THANKS THANKS THANKS THANKS or not say anything at all?
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I can't tell you how much I love you for the fact that a thread with this name doesn't have "THANK SPAM IS POINTLESS" in the OP. That being said I don't think it should actually be a rule (BUT I still promote people to stop being ungrateful and thank), because a) most people wouldn't be sincere about it, and b) I wouldn't know who is just doing it because it's a rule and who is doing it to actually say thank you. That being said, it's sad that giveaways only get like 10% of the entrants saying thank you :(
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This. It is a little sad to see ratios of like, 1:15 being comments to entries on pretty much all public giveaways :(
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That's not what I meant at all. There's nothing "undesirable" about someone not wanting to have to say "thank you" every single time they want to enter a giveaway. This site is made for giving away games and entering giveaways. If you don't want to give away games because I refuse to verbally fellate you, that's your problem.
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I'm sorry, but saying thank you is "verbally fellating" the giveaway maker? That really makes you sound like an ungrateful twat and exactly like the undesirable part of the site Monukai was talking about.
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Actually, it would be your problem as well. In fact, that'd be a problem for the whole site as that is one less person giving away games. It takes all of what 10 seconds to type 'Thanks!' and hit reply? It isn't 'verbally fellating' someone, it's common fucking courtesy. Please don't enter any of my future giveaways because if you win I will request a re-roll.
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Lots of thanks for this. That guy was really cluttering up threads>.<
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http://www.steamgifts.com/user/Altair
Am I a really good person?
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I check the winners of giveaways now and then and NO ONE has a comment/entry ratio even near 1:1, hell most of them haven't even done more then max 10 comments on hundreds of entries.
It should be required to say a simple thanks before you even enter IMO.
lazy ungrateful bastards! :/
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