Xbone's "Quality" Disc Drives

Life tip: Think before speaking

Bog standard? Where can you buy Bluray drives with Microsoft's own code and chipset (not mediatek, etc) in them besides the Xbox One?

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Several problems there. 1 is that commercial discs aren't burned. 2 Nobody ever (to the best of my knowledge) tried releasing a system that ran games from flash drives. 3. Not only did some stuff keep using ROM carts (Primarily Nintendo) Sony even decided that ROM carts were in fact a much better way of doing things and switched away from using optical drives for handhelds. Guess what? The price of the games didn't go up.

The companies making memory keep doing research. They keep increasing density so they can sell the same amount of storage for less and less and make new storage that holds more in the same physical space for the same cost. Why do you think at this point you can buy a 32GB MicroSD the size of your fingernail for less than a newly released movie?

If you go back and look at most of the games released on optical discs for the first few years they were available most of the space was completely wasted. They had to find ways to fill the discs to justify using them. We ended up with discs that were over 90% cutscenes and uncompressed music and voiceovers with very little of the space being used for AN ACTUAL GAME YOU COULD PLAY. It was so bad for awhile that they were just flat out calling them Full Motion Video Games. It was a terrible time for gaming. I'm dead serious. I saw games with less than 10 MB of actuall game and yet they managed to fill the rest of a 650MB disc.

spain counts :) (how terrible do conditions have to be where enough people can't raise families to have a negative population rate?)

which version? It used to check to make sure it wasn't on writeable storage before it would install unless it was an OEM version installed from a hard drive.

Hell no, I insist my bits and bytes are analog! None of those fancy "all-digital" bits for me thank you very much!

In the late 90's, I worked for Nokia. We checked every single phone multiple times before it was boxed, repairs done in house before it was shipped...
This is seems like some basic mechanical problems with the drives that could have been tested for. They probably just did a firmware check and some internal checks to see if the drive responded to commands before it'd console ID was flashed to it.

But, even if Microsoft did test every drive as it exited their manufacturing facilities, there is a good reason why we don't have slot loading cd/dvd drives on laptops and in computers. The failure rate is stupid on them.
I have to say, I'm surprised to see both Microsoft and Sony using them. I understand them wanting the console to look next gen, bit it's only going to serve as a problem zone for the life of the consoles.

Raspberry Pi Production

There is a HIGHLY relevant article. A 35 dollar SBC and EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM is tested before leaving the factory. 4,000 built a day with a fail rate of less than 1 per day failing and those get yanked without being shipped. This is also relevant for two more reasons. One is that all this is happening at a Sony owned factory. The second VERY important point is that this factory is in England instead of China.

Gee, imagine that. When a company actually cares about quality they make sure defective products don't get shipped. A fail rate of 0.025% OR LESS.

This is what happens when they care. Products come off the line, get attached to a test rig, and if they fail they go in the reject bin.

But go on. Try to convince us how a company building computers that sell for 35 dollars can afford to test their products before shipping them while paying decent wages and yet somehow systems being sold for 500 dollars can't afford to do the same thing while paying Chinese workers a fourth as much money or even less.

Intel and AMD wouldn't even dare consider shipping their products without testing them at the end of the line. Fail rates on their stuff would be 30 to 40% if they weren't testing and rejecting the bad ones.

You can never completely account for products that will test good but fail after a short period because of a defective component. You can never completely eliminate products being damaged during shipping. No matter how good you pack it somewhere along the line that box/crate is getting handled by some guy who really doesn't care and just wants to finish making his deliveries for the day. You can't design a product that will never ever break.

Companies most certainly can (and in at least some cases do) test their stuff before shipping it to customers.

Test rigs cost less than bad press.

It is not even a reaction time. As retailers refuse to lower prices for certain console games for years or inflate the prices for older ones, cheaper to produce PC games never had the same profit margins.

They needed the extra space for the disposable sports games bins that people become OCD over each year and trade for the cosmetic yearly update.