So just now I logged onto my computer to see this message on steam. I immediately knew something was wrong and checked back to see this in my history showing proof that I traded a fair amount of games(in some opinions) for Payday 2. The strange thing is, the person displayed in the first warning message(I had to block out the name for confidentiality) is different than the name in my trade history(Also had to block out for confidentiality). The other thing...the first warning says it was a recent gift...THE RECENT GIFT WAS 1 MONTH AGO! That's not recent, that's 1/12 of a year. That just amde me notice, the game is exactly 1 month old...

So anyways, two things Im looking for

Thoughts? Possibility of getting game back? Stupidity of it all?

Is my only option to get the game back to contact steam support?

New analogy for the heck of it...Imagine some kid steals a hotdog from a hotdog stand. He gives it to one of his friends. That friend then gives the hotdog to you and you pay him full price for it. You take a few bites and enjoy it. Spend hours enjoying the hotdog, then the hotdog vendor comes over, takes your hotdog, AND your friend still has all the money that the hotdog cost. Enough said (I shouldve mentioned that the hotdog vendor is stinking rich, and although he shouldnt have to lose anything, it really isn't a big deal to him)

Also, the guy I traded with isn't even the friend of the bad guy...so it's like the hotdog was given to two friends, and then me.

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The difference in names could be the original trader traded it to the guy who traded it to you. If you made the trade in the trade window, support should give you back what you traded.

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They don't return your gifts mostly. They do return your TF2 items once though.

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Thanks, I didn't know that.

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Yes, they do return if he traded through steam and not for paypal, game codes or whatever.

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^This

I had this happen to me before.

ANYTHING traded in the steam window using their system can be returned back to you if something like this happens. As long as you traded items for the item in question, then you will get a full refund. Be prepared to wait about 2 weeks for a response/fix.

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While it can be returned, you'll need to push them to do so, else they won't bother.

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SURPSIINGLY, they returned my support call in ONE DAY! New record! Got the games I traded back...Looks like Ill have to trade with someone else.

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All I did was state what happened, provide the logs, and ask for my games/keys back. Everything was returned in 2 weeks and I never had to push for anything.

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While they do, their official "response" is they don't, even if they did it before. The are willing to do TF2 items and such, but you'll need to push them for those gifts.

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Payday was removed from my account during one of the free weekends.
Steam Support gave me a 4-Pack as compensation. :V
Never got my TF2 items back, though. Probably because of a poor choice of words.

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I did hurt my tongue reading that

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it's possible that the person who originally bought the game cheated Steam somehow and you ended up with it making steam remove the game from you once the scam was discovered. It's easy to make fake credits to get games, I had a friend that got Starcraft 2 with all expansions and Diablo 3 with a fake credit that he made in a few hours and it was only discovered a week later.

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In the end it seems you got the short end of the stick since you're losing both the games you traded and Payday 2 so I'd be contacting steam support and hoping they would give you something back since you were also affected by whatever happened but I'd say your chances of getting compensation are pretty slim. Good luck and it's a shame what happened to you :/

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Let's hope they're sensible. I just hope I don't get returned with some stupid bot answer.

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They aren't, and you will.

Steam's support is still their Achilles heel if they ever end up with honest competition.

But good luck. I hope you get your items returned/replaced.

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Similar thing happened to me in the past. Long story short, I received my game back. Steam support should be able to help you. Just provide them with proof that you traded the game. GL.

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steam support is run buy computers with trigger responses, only human contact or interaction support deals with is the coding of new responses into the computer/s replying software. with valve its all about profit not customer service/ origin absolute shits all over valve in the customer support.

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Proof ?

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common sense.exe sometimes is a virus for brain.exe

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Steam still demolishes Origin in literally every other aspect though.

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Necro please, steam doesn't excel in having ea titles

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Rarrrr

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Um, please don't bump 3 month old threads.

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Regardless of what you two have said, it is plain stupid to take away from the guy being legal in the situation. Sure, punish the guy who did the scam, but with a middleman and proof I fairly traded for it, I expect a game back.

Too bad Ill have to wait like 2 weeks for steam support -_-

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Since you used the steam trade window and have proof that your trade was or at least to you seemed fair and legal I think that you will probably receive compensation since you were another victim of the scam.

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You can change your Steam name whenever you want.

Whoever traded you Payday 2 probably got it with a stolen CC or used a chargeback to get the money refunded. If either is the case, the game is effectively stolen, so they took it away. The most likely best resolution you could hope for is getting your trade items reversed.

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report on steamrep to limit this guys scamming ppl in the future

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Well Im gonna fight(if I have to) until I get some sort of compensation.

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meh, don't understand at all why you would expect that really.

sure you're upset and feel you're owed something....but why are you owed something? steam wasn't the one to rip you off and in any other part of life thinking you bought stolen items legitimately doesn't entitle you to keep them

a stolen game was taken back by the legitimate owner. its as it should be. you aren't getting it back. it isn't yours. whatever you paid a thief(or the fence, or the random middleman who possibly unknowingly bought it from the fence who bought it from the thief, or however many steps removed) doesn't matter to the store who was robbed.

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That's the thing...I didnt pay anything to a thief! I paid it to a friend of a friend (who knows how many friends there are in the middle) of the thief, so I essentially lose double the value of the game. I lose the game, and the 4 games IU traded for it...you clearly didnt read my hotdog analogy :D I personally hate when people feel they're entitled to something they aren't, but I worked for the things I lost and can honestly say I am entitled to it.

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I read the hotdog analogy, but at no point saw where it stopped belonging to the hotdog man to at least recover what he was able. Aside from it making little to no sense as an analogy because any value it had for the owner has been destroyed(leaving alone the part where you paid full price for a rumpled passed around much handled sausage of unknown provenance and actually put it in your mouth) so in the case of the hotdog it'd make sense to not bother, but the game could be recovered in mint condition.
but mostly the bit with "I shouldve mentioned that the hotdog vendor is stinking rich, it really isn't a big deal to him" lost the sympathy from me. (damned greedy hotdog man not letting me keep a hotdog that was stolen from him, no way of knowing I didn't steal it and every reason to think I did because I've got it greedy rich bastard taking it back like this wheres he get off having so many hotdogs anyway)

yeah, it sucks that the thief is long gone with the money but you're just mad you personally have to eat the cost for being left holding the potato at the time it was tracked down. your position seems to be the system is sound but it needs to affect somebody else. So you feel that the hotdog seller should eat the loss? Or maybe the other victims of the theft should pay instead? (after all I'm sure they could have dumped this on somebody who's filthy rich and doesn't deserve what they've got while you worked hard for whats yours right?)


maybe the presumably equally innocent guy immediately before you(your friend who sold you the hotdog) should be left feeling scammed(having him 'essentially lose double the value of the game' for having lot what he paid for it and what you gave him in trade(which I'd support by saying in theory could work if he is then able to pass the buck to the one who sold it to him and so on. (they'd have their trades reversed but nobody along the line would get to keep payday either, pissing off everybody apparently but) hopefully reaching back to if not get the thief himself at least have it affect somebody who knowingly did something shady))

Just send support with proof of what you traded. it was through their system so if it was done as a trade not a gift they can (theoretically...because they suck and probably won't even read your message) get you your payment but you'll have to give up on the game you bought. (you aren't getting payday2 returned to you and its silly to be upset about this. especially that "i got to have it for a month its not fair they took this long to do it now" bit)

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They return your gifts if you traded in the window for another steamgift/item. If you traded gifts for a cd key, they won't return the gifts. So contact support and get your games back.

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Gl getting through all the hoops in steam support. It's very rare to get those games in question back in your inventory :(

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+1 to this too. steam support is terrible. you'll wait a few weeks for an unrelated copy/paste boilerplate bot answer and only after sending it again will you be presented with the hoops...if you're lucky

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Ok, so Ill get the 4 games I originally traded back...provided steam support doesn't take ages. Thank you for an actual quote! I probably shouldve looked it up, but I was a little steamed at the time.

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You'll get your games back. Then, the poor sap that the scammer traded those to will have them removed. And they'll go through the same process you are now. :(

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Since it was a formal trade through the trade system, you can get it reversed if you complain to Steam support (eventually.)

Chances are the name issue is just that they changed their display name; remember, you can do that on Steam.

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The name in trade history updates with changes I believe, and has a profile link in it.

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i already undid 1 trade , i traded something for left 4 dead 1 + 2 (seperate games)

left 4 dead 1 got revoked, i asked for the trade to be undone, they actually let me keep left 4 dead 2 as a tradeable when i got my games back. =)

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I have 1 question, what did you trade to get all of those games? The Witcher 2, Dark Souls, L.A. Noire, etc.

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I had this happen to me with Cod:Ghosts, I got my keys back in 2 days and the original buyer got suspended.

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Funny, I had the same problem with the exact same game. Got the Payday 2 CCE preorder from a guy, game got removed on release day. I was pretty pissed off. I gave him keys for it, I asked support to reverse the trade, they took their usual time, but in the end they gave me my keys back. So if you traded steam games, just give support a nudge, they can see the history and everything so no need to screenshot or anything. Just tell them what happened, and they will give you back your stuff. If you traded game keys or anything outside steam, you are out of luck.

Oh and the name changes in your inventory history if the person changed their steam profile name. Don't worry, it's still the same person.

E: I see you traded steam games, so no worries, just tell support about it.

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Steam support can be dicks at times,like one time,my copy of Spinter Cell Conviction and Poker Night at the Inventory,both GIFTS were revoked after the person who gifted me the game was Steam banned,for buying TOO MANY games. What kind of shit is that?

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I had something like this happen to me. I traded for a game which went poof a couple months later from my inventory (never activated so I don't even get an error message). I contacted the guy I traded from and he said he had problems with his bank. Steam support was pretty much useless and said once your "friend" settled his issues with his bank blah blah blah. No amount of talk got into their thick head that the guy ain't my irl friend but an iffing steam friend.

Closed the old ticket, sent in a new one (new cso), be short and to the point. I traded for XXX with my XXX - show screenshot of inventory history. My gift got revoked. I was scammed. Now return me my original game. Two days later, original game returned.

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Well, now you know why people say you don't own anything on steam, you just rent it (even boxed games - all Valve need to do is have bad day and ban your account).

Good news for you: you might get your games back, if you'll ask support. As it wasn't your fault you lost PayDay 2 and you traded inside Steam, they should revoke faulty trade and give you your items back. That's why people don't like to trade keys - you don't know for 100% what you get, you don't know if it was used, you can't get it back if scammed.

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At least you got a notification.

Same thing happened to me - I traded a lot of games for Sega Complete Pack, but after a few weeks it got removed from my account, but there was no notification whatsoever.
At least I got the games back that I lost after I contacted support.

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If I were you, I would ask Steam support to give you what you traded back, even if this is not their policy, because:

  • you did not do anything wrong
  • you are not responsible for Steam allowing someone to trade a "stolen" (or at least invalid) game
  • after all, this is a matter of what trust everybody can have in the Steam system
    I usually don't do direct Steam trading, but if I read (like now) that the system is so unsecure and untrustworthy, I will just never use it.
    If you talk to a normal and responsible human, they should take this into account for the sake of their public image. In a normal world, at least. My 2 cents.
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It is their policy actually, so long as it is done through the trade window they will reverse it.

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"What if I redeemed a game from a trade that is fraudulently purchased?

If this happens, the account where the fraud took place will be suspended. Your account will not be suspended, however the game you redeemed/unpacked to your account will be removed. We will restore the items/gifts that were associated with the trade that you performed to receive the game. If you did not trade any items/gifts for the game directly then we are not able to restore anything to your account (i.e. if the game was a gift). Please contact Steam Support if a game that you traded for is missing from your inventory or account."

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Much as I'm sorry for you (been scammed once), I suggest you close this thread. Even if you have blocked the names, moderators do not take kindly to scam reports on SteamGifts forums. In the meantime while you wait for a reply from steam support (and they DO return you your gifts/items), you can make a thread on SteamRep with all the proof, chat log, and whatever you can get. It will mark him as a scammer and help other people too. Have a nice day!

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It's not really a report, it's more of him asking what he's supposed to do.

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Point is, not gonna be much helpful. Already the first comment states SREP, and that should be good. Steam Support does grant back games in case of fraudulent trades.

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Why do you hide your account's name ilassassinli?

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Because rules, right?

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OP hides his accounts name which can anyone see, it doesnt make any sense.

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you cant see peoples account name actually, unless its the same as your nick / steamgifts profile name

just guess my account name :D

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So why is your nick here kc and your steam profile has kc_?

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Steamprofile nick =/= steam account name.

Just look how many psychos are around steam, you think we all have same account name :P

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you cant use steam profiles below 3 letters, it worked like many years ago, i already found the guy with the steam profile "kc" and i wanted to buy the link off him, but you cant set a 2 letter profile anymore.
yeah neither kc or kc_ is my account name, its actually very different

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eiuol

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Closed 10 years ago by theluttinator.