Asking for a friend. Which camera is better, the Nikon D7200 or Canon EOS 80D? It's for personal use only. If you have any more questions I could probably relay them back to him.

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Edit: I will not be replying to most comments because I know pretty much nothing about cameras, but I have to say I am thankful for all answers - even simple bumps, though of course advice is extra-appreciated!

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Camera?

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Nikon D7200
Canon EOS 80D

I doubt a poll makes much sense without you first describing in details what are your goals and preferences in photography and what is your initial (and on-going) budget for this hobby.

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A few questions:

  • What kind of subjects do you plan to shoot (e.g. family travel, street, sports, wildlife, macro)?
  • What camera have you been using so far, and what were its main limitations from your point of view?
  • Do you understand the pros and cons of DSLRs vs mirrorless cameras? Are you sure you need interchangeable lenses? Is size and weight a consideration?
  • How do you plan to display your pictures?
  • Do you have any reason to limit yourself to only to Nikon and Canon? There are several other companies that make great cameras and lenses, each with its own unique set of pros and cons.
  • What is your initial budget and what does it include? Do you plan to purchase additional gear later on? Do you plan to buy second hand gear? Where do you intend to buy the camera? There are very significant price differences between different parts of the world.
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Do you have any reason to limit yourself to only to Nikon and Canon?

Plenty of reason. These two are market standard, so more accessories available more easily. I don't know what goes on in people's minds who buy other brands, but I know I wouldn't.

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As Yirg said, it's a huge consideration. Mirrorless is arguably the future over DSLRs and Nikon/Canon both suck at mirrorless right now.

Dominating the market means little, just ask AOL.

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What doesn't suck, then?

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When it comes to serious large-sensor cameras without a flipping mirror - meaning non-DSLRs, not necessarily mirrorless - I would say that (depending on needs), different models from Sony, Olympus, Panasonic, Samsung, Fuji and Ricoh - don't suck.

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So "plenty of reason" means easier to find accessories? What accessories exactly are you referring to? Do clue me in.

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What accessories exactly are you referring to?

All of them.

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I see.

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  • Pretty much everything, trips and the like but mostly nature and animals

  • Budget is 1200-1300$

  • He does understand the difference between mirrorless and dslr cams and is sure he prefers the latter

  • By display your pictures you mean sharing them with others? If so he plans on making albums and sharing them on social media

Also, the poll is just to get a general idea of where most people stand :)

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This budget isn't sufficient for a camera body of the two mentioned in the poll and suitable lenses, which at the very least need to be a wide-to-short-telephoto kit lens (e.g. 18-55, suitable for everyday photography, trips, street photography, landscape), and a long telephoto kit lens (e.g. 75-300, suitable for shooting nature and animals).

His main options are to increase the budget or get a lower tier body with those two lenses (or a single one cover both ranges, but that won't save any money. It will only result in compromises in optical quality). Of course he can decide to get one of these two bodies + only the short lens, but this would be pretty useless for shooting nature and animals.

In my opinion a lower tier body + 2 lenses + an external flash unit capable of bounce flash is likely to be a more useful kit in more situations than a higher end body and a single kit lens. Even more so if your friend can't point to specific features which are important to him. Just getting something expensive for the sake of getting something expensive doesn't make much consumer sense.

By display I mean printing vs. web display. Displaying the pictures on the web is far less demanding than printing large, which means there's less need to split hairs about minute differences in image quality (aka "pixel peeping"). Even FullHD resolution (which is higher than what most people post on social media) is only 1920x1080 px, which is close to 2 MP. That doesn't sound very high, now does it?

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Alright, thanks for the detailed answer!

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I'm a Canon user myself, but mine is an old potato (EOS 400D) compared to those two. Anyway, I've started to favor Nikon more over time. So my vote goes for Nikon.

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All depends on what you use it for and your current lens availability (do you own any lenses or have a friend who does?)

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His uncle's got tons!

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Well, then I would look up the compatibility of said lenses and go with that brand. Having a range of lenses is better than the newest processor or sensor; a great lens can take a fantastic picture on a garbage camera, but a garbage lens will always look bad. Good glass retains value.

I'm pretty sure the 7200 can use most Nikon lenses, as well as the 80D for Canon. If his uncle mostly has older non-autofocus lenses then it's up to your user, as he will still have to use the lenses manually.

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I'll tell him that, thanks!

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Also, the site dpreview.com has a nice tool that lets you compare models of cameras (current and discontinued) so you can see all of the specs side-by-side

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What lens mount, and will his uncle be willing to let him borrow lenses?

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This is the best answer I could find to your camera question.

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The Nikon sensor is slightly bigger I could go for that,
do you have some spare camera I will bring it a new home with me, I really need one, rebel or one 5200, nevermind I will go for a disposable

I heard the Canon can capture colors better. So that depends on your bucket and how much do you plan to spent in lenses. And there is modified software out there for Canon.

http://www.cnet.com/products/canon-eos-80d/

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No idea about cameras. Bumping

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Man, for a beginner there's not really a big difference in systems, what's more important - what lens do you prefer? When you find your favourite lens (in time) there will be no question about the body - you will just use what suits best.
If you can't yet see difference between lens, than just buy a universal zoom lens with.. any body system you can afford! :)

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Know next to nothing about cameras. Have a bump instead.

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I usually check this site out http://thewirecutter.com/leaderboard/cameras/ I get a good look at what's good

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Bump

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I don't know anything about camera's, so just have a bump :)

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Bump

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Closed 7 years ago by Jagdtiger.