Points for entering don't change that often. You get 6 points every 15 minutes. I wouldn't lose sleep over such a trivial matter.
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I'm not talking about regular points earnings by 6 points per each 15 minutes before points cap.
I'm talking about earning and losses points by cost change of entered gibs.
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And stevey is saying earning and losing points by cost change of entered gibs is trivial because you earn good amount of points to compensate it. Also this is a very rare case. also mentioned by stevey
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This happens so rarely that it is a fraction of the points you get every day. If the difference is 5 points with the change in value (+ or -), it is just over 1% of the points you get everyday. I frankly couldn't care if it did or not.
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+1, this so rare, it's totally negligible for a "normal" user, who rarely leaves GAs anyway, and it's also not something that can be exploited en masse (it would require prior knowledge of price changes)
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It's true if u not store "extra" points by long-time gibs. This discussion "About points store and cost changes".
I lost about 150 points by one of cost changes. It's about 25% of total points per day. Should I say how many gibs I will miss?
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Even if you did lose 150 points, it will happen rarely. I still wouldn't care if this happens once every few months. There are more important things in life than this. Also there will be times when a game go up in point value and you get extra points also. I bet you wouldn't be complaining about this issue then.
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Why are you arguing with a warning-discussion that you is not concerned (as you say)?
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You are responding to a comment I made. Therefore I can respond to yours unless you have an issue with this.
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You don't find useful and say it - no problem, but you continue argue that discussion is useless. If you don't find warning useful for you than don't discourage others. Each user have own opinion, each one decide what is useful for him(she/etc.). So don't try shut up users who have different opinion.
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I have never said discussion is useless. I am giving my opinion on this issue which you have raised. You don't have to agree with me and I am perfectly fine with this. I am not saying the thread is not useful. I am saying it is NOT as big an issue as you think it is. People are making their own opinion of this thread as am I. The number of people responding below this will show I haven't shut anyone up making their own thoughts and minds up on this issue. You have your opinion and I have mine. Lets leave it as that as I don't think we will agree on this issue.
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- I had not said anything "Epic" at discussion.
- I made "simple warning"
- I made discussion for off-topic section.
So, I can't decide why you understood it as such important. Could you explain it to me? Just to figure it out and avoid dispute.
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Point 1-3 I agree with. I don't think the issue is important due to the fact it does not hugely negatively impact nearly all users except on rare occasions when it does happens. I think you are overexaggerating it if you think this is a dispute. I have no beef with you or your thread. I will thank you for the warning/thread as this is taking up too much of my time.
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GL with the thread and I hope it helps the people who are banking points to not "put all their eggs in one basket".
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You've entered 46,537 giveaways and won 82 of them.
That's a winning percentage of .00176.
Let's say you've "missed out" on 500 giveaways because of this "issue"...which is a huge stretch, but let's use that number anyway.
Based on your winning percentage, you would have won 0.88 more games.
TL,DR -- it's not worth worrying about.
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But... that 0.88 is basically one, and it can be Fortix o.O who wouldn't like to win Fortix??
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Well, that's assuming that he's really "missed" 500 giveaways. I think that is HIGHLY unlikely.
Even if that's accurate, though, my overall point stands. It's just not worth worrying about the possibility that you could have won one more free game over the course of several months.
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I think you're going too deep into this :D
But you do you, man :)
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In example 2 and 3 you say "...and get free extra points", while the opposite is true: he loses points (like you say later).
Unless you meant "negative" extra points :D
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There is really no need to store/bank points. Just enter for the games you want, and hide the games you don't want so you don't have to see them again. That's all there is to it. This website is pretty simple.
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It's a thing indeed, and you nicely presented the case. Just a suggestion: if you have to explain something similar next time, try using examples, it's way easier to understand and people are generally frowning upon letters as "imagine a number here" as soon as they finish their math classes and many, many just instinctly refuses to deal with them :D I'm tutoring maths and it's flabbergasting how many people just hate/fear/unfamiliar with the concept of not using numbers.
Recent / recurring examples:
Daedalic giveaways during the "Daedalic bug" can net one extra 180P each (entering for 20P, winning when it's 200P) or lose the same amount if enters when it costs 200P, and wins when it's only 20
( I'm not sure I can name a recent game that went completely free to turn into 0P though)
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I don't think it actually ever happened to me, but I've thought about it and that's how I expected this to work. In theory it could be exploited, but it's so hard and rare to be able to execute it on purpose that I don't think it really matters that much. I'm sure there are more important issues/ feature requests waiting in the line ;)
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Agreed. But it push to be attentive while "point storage management" (Time to write big book "Point storage management on SG and take doctor's degree xD)
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Maybe this is only a small / rare bug but I think it can be exploited to gain extra points if you know that the price of a game will increase.
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Disclaimer
As you know, user get full points-cost of GA if he(/she/etc) will exit from it. But today I discovered bug.
Bug: user get back current points-cost of GA (not cost which spent to enter).
What does it mean? Earnings and losses of points for rare cases.
I'll give you 3 examples to understand what I mean:
Example 0 (as nominal)
User have N number of points. (Number of points = N)
Cost of GA is 10 points. (Cost of GA = 10)
User enter to GA. (N - 10)
Some time passed
User quit from GA... (N + "cost of GA" = N+10)
...and get all points which he spent to enter to this GA. (Total: N - 10 + 10 = N. It's cool that system works that way.)
Let's check exception for case in which cost of change
Example for case 1 (this case is very very rare)
User have N number of points. (Number of points = N)
Cost of GA is 10 points. (Cost of GA = 10)
User enter to GA. (N - 10)
Cost of game increase to 15 points. (Cost of GA = 10 + 5 = 15)
User quit from GA... (N + "new cost of GA" = N + 15)
...and get free extra points (Total: N - 10 + 15 = N + 5; number of earned free extra points = 5)
Example for case 2
User have N number of points. (Number of points = N)
Cost of GA is 10 points. (Cost of GA = 10)
User enter to GA. (N - 10)
Cost of game decrease to 5 points. (Cost of GA = 10 - 5 = 5)
User quit from GA... (N + "new cost of GA" = N + 5)
...and get points back (Total: N - 10 + 5 = N - 5; number of lost points = 5)
Example for case 3
User have N number of points. (Number of points = N)
Cost of GA is 10 points. (Cost of GA = 10)
User enter to GA which become free or user enter to free GA before cost correction. (N - 10)
Cost of game decrease to 0 points. (Cost of GA = 10, zeroing, cost of GA = 0)
User quit from GA... (N + "new cost of GA" = N + 0)
...and get points back (Total: N - 10 + 0 = N - 10; number of lost points = 10)
Correct me please if I missed something or if I'm wrong
In summary
When entering to gibs for storing your points, attentive you have to be
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