"If you're on Win 10, just use built in Windows Security."
Are you serious?
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Yep. I don't use any antiviruses since i'm on Win7
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When you responded you to Arwiee you stated yep, implying you agree with him.. so you don't agree with him, since you just stated you have it disabled.
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Maybe cause I was a bit sleepy at 2 am.
But ok, you may ban me for that (=
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Avast AntiVirus is good in my opinion.
Avira is crap. Promote all the time stuff, in the paid version too!. The paid version don't found half of the stuff that the free Avast found at my dad's system.
Since i switched i never looked back because Mcaffee was crap, Norton was good to use but really horrible at the deinstall and i don't found a GOOD one besides Avast (after 1 year of free use i changed to pay for it).
And i use always on top, only started when needed, Malwarebytes Anti-Malware because it is a very good one against Malware, spyware and so on (but no antivirus)
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Funny thing I have both on same computer & Only use Win 7.
Mine isn't a Potato ;)
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And... What's the real advantage of windows 7? (not sarcastic, I really want to know) You have no Microsoft support, 10 year old design, less protection, no new software compatibility...etc
Only reason to run a windows 7 machine is:
-You have an old hardware that is not compatible with windows 10.
-You have an old software that is not compatible with win 10.
-You think it's cool to be on windows 7, despite all the advantages, because you are not a pawn of society, and you refuse to update cause everyone is updating.
-you are one of those old man's in the park, that are always saying, "back in the days, it was better", refusing to accept new and improved things.
Trust me, I was there on your place. I've been on IT job for more than 15 years, while people where on XP I was rocking 98SE cause I refused to accept new was better. When everyone was on win7 I was rocking XP like a mad man! Refusing to update cause I was cool and XP was cool... I do understand the win7 preference :), i just want to know what's the advantage of using win7 and not advising a person that clearly does not have much computer experience (or looks like it) to update to win10. :)
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I have to use w10 in my work and it's disaster for me.
There is also the fact that it collects insane amount of your data and it's pretty much endless beta version.
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windows 10 is ass, sells your data, filled with bloatware, doesn't work with all steam games, and for the longest time you could make any program look like a legit program on it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4k0Ctb4uT4&t=82s
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"windows 10 is ass" -> Great way of starting a debate :)
"sells your data" - > Just like your Android/Iphone, every monetized website, every physical company you enter... your water company, your electricity company...
"filled with bloatware" -> Just like your phone and your new LCD 4k SmartTV, and your new car ? can you uninstall that "bloatware? if you can...why is that such a problem? i don't have bloatware on my win10, where did you get yours?
"for longest time you could make any program look like a legit program on it"-> does it happen now?no? why is that even an issue now? does win7 is safe from vulnerabilities? cars for the longest time didn't had safety belt, you don't use cars? Phones batteries explode, did you stoped using phones? the "I love you" virus attacked winXP did you stop using winXP. Wanna.cry recently exploited computers with win7... not win10...
"doesn't work with all steam game" -> finally a thought and maybe actual advantage on not upgrading... although i don't think that's a real issue, i cant argue with that "real problem" on win10!
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It's really not, though. I haven't paid for an anti-virus in decades, and at the company where I was working in 2007-2009 we had some PCs using the free Microsoft anti-virus while most used Symantec Corporate AV and the free Microsoft AV was better - it would frequently pick up and block viruses that Symantec would miss, while we didn't encounter a single virus that Symantec detected but the free Microsoft AV didn't.
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using the free Microsoft anti-virus
"Free" if you own a legitimate copy of Windows.
Regardless, my point was that you are always paying with something. If not your dollars, then your data.
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I don't even use an antivirus. Just a firewall and WinPatrol. And common sense.
As someone else pointed out, Windows Defender is good enough, if you feel you must run that kind of thing.
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Windows Security was proven (By Av-Test) to be more effective than any other free antivirus and it's free as is included with the OS, soooo...
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How well each AV program does compared to the others does change over time. Though, last I looked, the build in antivirus on Windows 8 or 10 was the best free one.
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I use the built-in Windows anti-virus, exercise a little care, and supplement with SuperAntiSpyware and MalwareBytes. I've actually got a paid version of MBAM, which takes care of things on its own, but it's easy enough to run a scan or two each week manually.
I also prefer Windows 7, but it's time to update. You'll get used to it in no time, and the upgrade will probably run for free even though it's not supposed to be free any longer.
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You can get Microsoft Security Essentials as a Win7 update, but I don't think it 's good as Windows Defender in Windows 10.
The free version of BitDefender anti-virus is fairly good if you only want an anti-virus, and nothing else. It has real-time and on-demand scanning for viruses and that's it. It does eat a lot of RAM though, up to 0.5GB when idle.
Consider getting the free version of Malwarebytes Anti-Malware as well. You don't need to have it running all the time if you don't want to, but it only needs ~50MB RAM. It isn't an anti-virus though, it's meant to detect malicious programs like keyloggers or spyware rather than viruses.
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Consider the motivations of each company here. The antivirus companies want to profit off of you and they know that a lot of people won't be buying the full version. So they look for other ways to make money. Maybe by making the free version useless, maybe by selling your data, maybe by some other scummy behaviour. It's simple business. They will sell what the customers are buying and, since you're not paying money, you're not the customer here.
Now consider Microsoft. You became a customer of theirs when you bought Windows. They already have your money and, because they control OS updates, they don't need you to use their AV for them to get access to your data. So they have no reason to do anything dodgy with the AV.
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I have Microsoft Security Essentials on my Win7 box and using Windows Defender on my Win10 box and haven't run into any issues for years now (knock on wood). If I'm going to go to a site I think (or pretty much know) may be questionable, I'll boot up my Linux box or use a VM for that little bit.
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As others have mentioned, Windows Defender on Win 10 is actually pretty good. If you are determined to stay with Win 7 (and I absolutely sympathize, I put off updating to Win 10 for as long as possible), then that OS's built in security program isn't quite as good but it is still going to catch most everything. Honestly, for ordinary internet use that might even be enough and riskier online behavior needs something stronger than a mere anti-virus program (i.e. a sandbox).
I usually have Malwarebytes installed as a secondary anti-virus. It was always the best at removing any malware once it had been installed and works well with any other anti-virus you want to have installed (e.g. Windows Defender). Malwarebytes is nice also since it does a good job with things like spyware which are far more common these days than a traditional virus. It takes up very little RAM and plays well with every other anti-virus program of which I am aware. I would advise getting it regardless of what anti-virus you end up downloading.
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It is by design that the task tray icon of Avira becomes "dumb".
There seems to be no problem with security.
But there is a cure.
Select Avira service from task tray and restart to improve.
Service name? wait....... Avira.ServiceHost< This!
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I only recommend two: Bitdefender and Norton Antivirus...used them both since the early 2002s and they've never let me down...unlike all the others. Some are just not intelligent enough like cough cough not naming any names, some are just bloatware and others are just plain intrusive and will stalk you after your sub expires (looking at you Panda)
Norton and Bitdefender regularly give out free 3 month trials so you have plenty of time to try it for yourself. Haven't paid for a Bitdefender sub in almost 2 years.
https://www.bitdefender.com/media/html/consumer/new/get-your-90-day-trial-opt/index.html
You don't need a second antivirus as these programs are not made to work together. Having more than one is just setting up yourself for un-necessary conflict.
Lastly whatever you do...DO NOT rely on Windows Defender...unless you have nothing of importance on your computer. It does not have good intrusion protection...if any at all. and offers only the bare minimum in terms of protection.
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I'm using Win 7 and personally use AVG with Silent Mode and Games Folder on "Exceptions"
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Windows defender and a bit of caution have been good enough for me. Although it doesn't hurt to bring several other companions along for the job.
Out-of-trial MalwareBytes antivirus software is a good and reliable choice - it even lets you download the latest updates despite not purchasing a subscription. One thing - only the purchased version has the automatic features available for use, so you'll have to manually schedule the scans yourself if your version is out-of-trial. It's not a hassle for me, but it may be for others. If you need a second layer of anti-virus software to check what MalwareBytes doesn't, then HitmanPro is a decent option. Both of these softwares are available for free and I've found them to hardly be taxing on your hard drive.
Norton is a decent antivirus software program, but imo it's not one of the best options due to the amount of bloatware it puts up. I admit I'm not up to date to its current version, but when I used Norton back between 2010-2015 it was a huge resource hog for my Windows 7 and Windows Vista PCs. Granted, I didn't have great specs, but I had to especially locate and eliminate any resource hogs on my system in order to have my computer run efficiently. Norton was one of them. Norton was not only a pain to uninstall, because it left remnants of itself, but it also had programs, files, and other unused code lurking around. One of the most noteworthy executable files was SymSilent.exe. SymSilent.exe was one of those leftovers that appeared before and after uninstallation. Back then, we didn't really know what SymSilent did, and I honestly still don't know what it does. What I do know is that it was kept on my computer, it can do something, but its exact purpose is unknown. Besides that, malware was known to disguise itself as SymSilent so as to remain on your computer and work around Norton. With all that considered, you can see why I'm not much of a fan of Norton.
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Windows defender is decent in comparison to years ago when it was a laughing stock in the discussion board. Of course Defender doesn't compare close to premium software capabilities, but Defender does things decent for free. As for me, I've had enough trouble soaking up money into premium computer security software.
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I never had to pay for Windows 10. I was able to get my version for free since I registered my student status with Microsoft. Otherwise, paying for Windows 10 is one of those things that goes without saying. Windows defender is free in the sense that you don't have to pay anything more past the OS, whereas antivirus software like Norton you'll have to pay for it. Stating that Windows defender antivirus isn't free because you have to purchase Windows 10 is a moot point. You can't make use of any premium antivirus software if you don't have an OS in the first place, and Windows Defender is bundled in with Windows OS and only works for Windows OS. Either you upgrade to Windows 10 or you buy a computer that has Windows 10 OS. It's either those two things or you take your pick with Mac, Linux, or any other OS.
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MalwareBytes and AVG are the only two I have experience with. They are fine. You can install both and hope one catches something the other doesn't.
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Comodo Internet Security suite (with HIPS and Auto-Containment turned off).
I didn't have any problems for over 10 years using it, both with WIn7 and Win10. No hassle, very few false positives.
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I had Avast!, and I was very happy with it. Then it became bloatware, with loads of huge services that I didn't want, and took memory even if disabled. I got so tired of it, that I went for a looong search. Basically my only option, of the many I found and inspected with magnifying glass, was Avira. So...
I had Avira, and I was very happy with it. Now in a matter of 2 months, has became bloatware too, installing without any warning several large and unwanted services that I don't want. One took 0.5Gb of memory for doing nothing (since I'm not a premium user). Thankfully, some these services are independent of the main product and could be uninstalled independently. But they messed up my startup programs (including not showing Avira's own icon on system tray) and left Avira and parts of my system in poor condition. Besides that, some stuff still lies there, and pops up from time to time, and I can't seem to disable it (the configuration options for this new stuff is, literally: english or german). So I want to say bye bye to Avira.
Bitterness ended, I'm looking for a new antivirus for my new system reinstall. It must be free, because I can't pay a monthly or yearly fee now (and probably in a long time). I'd prefer that it doesn't include "game booster", "system cleaner", "start-up beautificator" and other bloatware. I want a simple, free antivirus. I don't need ghost VPN, nor email checking. Just realtime protection, an scan from time to time, something simple and with decent scores on antivirus comparisons. And I'm not considering Panda even if they would pay me to use their product. Oh and I'm staying with Windows 7 for a few years more before going back to Linux.
If I don't find anything decent, I'll have to reinstall Avira, but I can't trust it as much as I've been doing for quite long. So I'm open and thankful for any suggestions.
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