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Read about it, it's apparently because of the encryption key inside the code, so all they would have to do is remove it and have users use their "own" key, like many emulators including Yuzu and Ryujinx do.
But we'll see if that is enough to have it return on Steam itself.
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@Lugum, apparently this is incorrect news.
There is no DMCA notice, it is a Cease and Desist in which Steam themselves contacted Nintendo.
https://dolphin-emu.org/blog/2023/05/27/dolphin-steam-indefinitely-postponed/
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I am not very into the legal mumbo jumbo, what does "citing the DMCA against Dolphin's Steam page," mean then?
So i change it to DMCA cease and desist in the OP?
Every other site mentions DMCA too, regardless it's nintendo being nintendo and this will be postponed (forever).
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A cease and desist is a letter from a lawyer telling you to stop doing something or they’ll take you to court
The DMCA is a law that covers piracy and essentially says that if a platform is told of a possible violation of copyright, they should take it down to avoid liability. They don’t have to take it down, but if they don’t they can get in trouble; it gives places like steam cover to not have to check everything that gets put on their platform.
DMCA notice would be sent to steam. A cease & desist letter would be sent to the developers. A cease & desist letter often cites the law that supposedly is being violated.
(Ik ben een advokaat in de vereenigde staaten)
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seems like they were playing with fire
If Nintendo can do this to Bowser, a slap on the wrist is very lucky overall
https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/switch-hacker-gary-bowser-released-from-jail-will-pay-nintendo-25-30-income-for-the-rest-of-his-life/
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If Nintendo can do this to Bowser...
Still lucky though. Wizards of the Coast sent Pinkerton after that dude who leaked the most recent Magic the Gathering set ahead of launch 😆
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From what I've heard online this whole problem was caused because they included some decryption keys in the source code, as in hard coded copy pasted from the wii bios, which is an infringement on Nintendo's intellectual property. In theory this could be addressed by simply removing those keys and asking the user to provide them themselves at first boot of the program, but who knows if they'll try to get into Steam again or drop that for fear of legal problems, Nintendo and their army of lawyers like to ruin lives as scare tactics.
People are also saying that Nintendo might not want to take this to court because the final result of that is uncertain and it could backfire horribly for them. Worst case scenario of that, for the public, is that emulation isn't as legal as we think and this leads into a witch hunt. Best case scenario would be that it's decided that nobody can claim ownership of a string of numbers and keys aren't protected as property.
But who knows, at this point I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo starts operating like the mafia and sending thugs to beat people to death over emulating their games.
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This inspires me to send money to the Dolphin devs.
Most people arent even interested in playing legacy games, and Nintendo can easily offer a better quality environment if it wanted to.
But instead they've decided these older games arent worth the small profit they'd make. Yet they'll do everything they can to keep anyone else from enjoying them.
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If emulation has taught something to Nintendo is they can still get a lot of $$ with old titles. I know 2 people who are/were super excited to play Metroid Prime HD on the Nintendo Switch.
So don't be surprised if they release some of the best N64 games on HD at some point.
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I wish they'd just open a shop like Valve and Epic, so instead of fighting with each old title, they could leave it mainly up to the owner of the IP.
Which is what got me excited for Dolphin being on Steam. All those old games that Nintendo isnt interest in, could have new light shown on them. Then the most popular ones could inspire remakes once proof of interest was enough to draw in investors.
Nintendo could be making tons of money thanks to a grassroots dolphin and game modding community. All they'd need to do is give it some polish and package each game to be released on Switch. Then they could profit, and sell community mods for more profit, and give the creators a cut or one time payout. Which would inspire a the growth of a massive community to build around Switch and Nintendo.
They'll eventually lose out due to over reach, same as blockbuster, red box, and now netflix.
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Why buy an emulator when you can grab the source code instead?
Most emulators are probably open source.
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Nintendo has a thing about their games on pc, because of piracy, they know steam games are cracked and pirated.
They don't even give a care about their old stuff (why the 3ds store got closed), only way to get them is piracy, but no you shouldn't do that..
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A new update in the situation: https://kotaku.com/nintendo-gamecube-wii-emulator-dolphin-valve-piracy-1850482929
“Nintendo is committed to protecting the hard work and creativity of video game engineers and developers,” a spokesperson for Nintendo told Kotaku in an email. “This emulator illegally circumvents Nintendo’s protection measures and runs illegal copies of games. Using illegal emulators or illegal copies of games harms development and ultimately stifles innovation. Nintendo respects the intellectual property rights of other companies, and in turn expects others to do the same.”
Out of the PR gibberish, the main problem with Dolphin being on Steam looks to be the emulation software is using cryptographic keys from the Wii to have the ROMs function properly. Nintendo developed the cryptographic keys and is their intellectual property.
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So they will update and remove it and tell people "BYOB"? In this case, BYOK?
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First is excepted from Nintendo
Second: Nintendo still ignore big pile of $ laying on "re-release old games on NS and PC". But sill want chase emulator/pirate site (who are like hydra one head out four come out)
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Knowing Nintendo It was something that was gonna happen. Even if the software was free and not using Nintendo's own code.
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"Nintendo have sent Valve a DMCA takedown notice related to the GameCube and Wii emulator Dolphin. Dolphin has been in development for nearly 20 years, but in March its developers announced their intention to bring the free emulator to Steam and opened a store page.
Dolphin's developers now say that the Steam release is "indefinitely postponed".
The takedown notice, which has been seen by PC Gamer, says that, "Because the Dolphin emulator violates Nintendo’s intellectual property rights, including but not limited to its rights under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA)’s Anti-Circumvention and AntiTrafficking provisions, 17 U.S.C. § 1201, we provide this notice to you of your obligation to remove the offering of the Dolphin emulator from the Steam store."
Under DMCA regulations, operators of platforms such as Steam are required to remove content upon receiving a takedown request, and to notify the allegedly infringing party who then have the opportunity to file a counter-claim. Dolphin's Steam page has been removed and now redirects to the Steam store homepage.
"It is with much disappointment that we have to announce that the Dolphin on Steam release has been indefinitely postponed," reads a short post on the Dolphin site. "We were notified by Valve that Nintendo has issued a cease and desist citing the DMCA against Dolphin's Steam page, and have removed Dolphin from Steam until the matter is settled. We are currently investigating our options and will have a more in-depth response in the near future."
Emulation operates within grey areas of copyright law and the outcome of any actual lawsuit against Dolphin would be hard to predict, but it would set a precedent that could have sweeping consequences for all emulation.
Dolphin remains available for download via links on its own site. Other emulation software, such as RetroArch, remain available on Steam. Interest in accessing emulation software through Steam has increased in recent months due to the popularity of Valve's PC handheld, the Steam Deck, and last year Valve hastily replaced a trailer for the device after a Nintendo Switch emulator was shown within a user's Steam library."
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/nintendo-filed-a-dmca-notice-against-dolphin-emulators-release-on-steam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wrVRgIgqXs
[Edit] Update: What has already been rumoured it seems to be about the en/decryption keys. https://kotaku.com/nintendo-gamecube-wii-emulator-dolphin-valve-piracy-1850482929
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