I know I was given Special Edition when it came out because I owned Legendary Edition, but I don't know if this is eligible to new owners.
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I think the same. I was just curious. Cause I have 2 offers in almost the same prices. I have no idea if one of those is better. I mean. I never played Skyrim and never meant to (and probably never would) but was just curious. Cause maybe in the far future I would give a try. And as for me this is completely unknown, I don't know remastered is good or overhyped or maybe overhated. People tend to be very for or very against remasters. I like remasters... when they are good. But I hate that they are being released too often and too quickly.
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Well, if you like modded gameplay, I suggest getting Legendary Edition (the original Skyrim) because, as far as I know, it supports more mods than Special Edition. I still play the original Skyrim mainly due to that.
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I hate mods. I don't even get why people are installing ridiculus mods tbh, making things weird. Is original game that bad, that they have to use mods? Or what?
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Ridiculous mods are mostly just for fun, messing around the game's engine and such. Personally, I prefer mods which slightly improve on the game such as SkyUI, or simple additions such as music overhauls, capes, etc. It adds to the game while still keeping it reasonably within the scope of how the game is and was meant to be played.
Is original game that bad, that they have to use mods? Or what?
In some cases, yes - I wouldn't want to go back to the old UI after using SkyUI because it's so much better, especially on PC (original UI was designed with consoles/controllers in mind).
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Only mods I like are those like SkyUI. I don't like "mods for fun to mess with engine" cause I don't get why it is funny. When I play the game, I want to really play THE game, not sth completely different. But things like SkyUI that improves UI sounds good to me.
But what I heard is that game itself (gameplay) isn't that good. And so many bugs and glitches. And I also heard storyline is dull. That was exactly why I was asking if the game is that bad.
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Skyrim is a hit or miss, with many people hating it. Personally? I love playing some Skyrim from time to time.
And I agree with ridiculous mods being silly. I don't install these myself - The only game I did that to was Just Cause 2, but that one is an exception. It's a game designed to be insane and mods just accentuate that. :D
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Understandable :D With JC2 :>
It's hard for me to decide, cause I got mixed signals. But I think the game is too overhyped after all and is not that good. Maybe not completely bad, but I'm afraid all those bugs and glitches and things that are ridiculous and none game should have them will make it not that good. And I also heard about story, that is dull. And RPG without story... uh. I don't know if this is true, but if is...
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If you've played a Bethesda game before, you'll know exactly what to expect - the game does not have any game-breaking bugs, it's mostly just people making fun of Bethesda's crappy engine; so you can expect the physics to go awry at times and things flying off tables etc. Mostly anything else was patched since released and the game runs well.
As for the story... it's not exactly great, but it's not awful either. But again, it depends on what you consider a good story - Skyrim definitely doesn't focus on a really interesting "main" story. Many of the side questlines or much better. In any case, most quests are "go there, kill things/collect thing, come back, get reward".
If you're unsure, I suggest watching some gameplay video which covers questing etc so you can get a decent idea of what you're getting into. If you want good, long storyline, then perhaps Skyrim isn't really your thing - Personally I always say that Skyrim is not an RPG game, more of an action game with RPG elements. So if that's not what you're looking for, then perhaps reconsider.
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I rather never played Bethesda game before. Oh, I played. Home Alone for NES. The only one from the list I've played. And just for 5 minutes on emulator.
The bugs like flying objects are... weird. I would not like them.
And for the story. Hm. It's really hard to find game with the really good story. Mostly they are all cliche motives, used over and over again in eveyr game and movie. A hero, that is unknown, that saves the world. But except the plot, there is also the story. Characters etc. Plot can be pretty simple, but the story should be sth more.
I like Dark Souls. I won't tell about Metal Gear cause there is not single thing in the world that has that amazing story at MGS but mainly because the story is also beyond the game itself. Story is about trolling people by Kojima. But going back to topic... I like story that ha sth to say. Not just I pass the game and will remember some stupid quotes and that's all. I like story that is interesting. That I can think about the characters, fell their emotions. Not just random NPC saying his wife is killed. Dark Souls have plenty of characters. And they all... are interesting. Story of Solaire of Astora, Siegmeyer of Catarina. You decidewhat happens with them. Also there is Logan and other people. I like that kind of story, that I would remember and fell that. I don't even like Borderlands story cause... for me it's too much chaos. Mostly because quests are boring and are all about kill wave of enemies. Then go there. And kill another wave of enemies. And kill next wave. And then go there and there. I felt like it was my duty to kill those psychoes. Instead of just a challange. I had to do it, not because they were a threat or anything. They were just yt another enemies that were spammed in every quest. Borderlands have some nice moments, but still, it's not kind of story I would say is pretty good. Of course I like games with less complex story, but they are not story games. They are not RPGs. Ori and the Blind Forest has simple story but there is mainly sadness in it. Not what happens but what You feel when it happens. Or I Crypt of the Necrodancer thas has pretty simple story, that I don't even care it exist, but the game isn;t about story but about rythm stepping.
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Mods don't have to be ridiculous. One of my favorites was a economy tweak that made it a bit slower to become King Midas in the game. Another one rebalanced amulets to make them more useful. Mods are great.
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I don't like mods that changes engine and game mechanics. I mean... things like Treecapitator in Minecraft are useful, cause You use less time for cutting trees. But don't like adding things to the engine. Never liked any mods in MC that added new items or changed old ones. Now I don't play Minecraft but the only mods I like are improving stability of the game or adds sth useful like Treecapitator in MC. Rebalanced amulets... just don't like it.
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The game's wonderful. Some people "finish" it (as much as they can) and just decide to play around. Not all mods are "ridiculous" though. When I played, I added some survival realism mods, some character customization, lots and lots of texture improvements stuff, etc.
There's also unofficial patches that fix bugs Bethesda never did.
Mods are an amazing part of Skyrim, and whether you want something small like better textures or a mod that makes chickens ten times their current size, there's probably something you'd like.
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I like only stability improvement or useful mods. Don't like messing with the engine. Like survival mods to make game TOO realistic for no reason. Texture improvements sounds good, but I don't need'em. Used texture mods only in Minecraft to make them 64x64 instead of 16x16, but that's all. And I only use textures that are exactly as the original (Faithful in MC).
I don't like the vision of mods being part of any game. For me it's con of the game itself. Cause if the mods are needed to have fun (not counting things like improving stability etc), then what is the purpose of it? I like games that are good without mods. Don't like messing with the endine to add or modify sth. Maybe for fun after I finished the game. But I don't want to buy Skyrim (maybe in the far future, was just asking because of curiosity) and... even if I do, I doubt I will be re-playing it. Game doesn't look that good to be played few times. Even if the game is good, I doubt it will met my requirement to be interesting and be played more than once. I have high expectations from the games, especially that mpost are overrated and overhyped. But nevermind. For me, game must be fantastic without any additions. Otherwise... well.
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I don't think mods are necessary to enjoy the game. Because I agree that they shouldn't be. The thing I like about Skyrim mods is that
even once you finish the game, you can continue it. Some mods add quests, some add completely new areas. I've played through the vanilla quest lines more times than I can count (since I've owned the game since release date), so that's nice for someone in my situation, but for new players, most people I meet recommend a first play through being vanilla anyway. I also just enjoy seeing the creativity of the community.
And as a sidenote, I don't do hardcore survival mods. There's ones that give you options to make it a bit more realistic but not too much. If you ever do play Skyrim, I highly recommend at least looking through mods rather than generalizing them all as being something you wouldn't like. It's the only game I've ever modded. In a lot of other games, I don't like them (main one coming to mind is L4D2) for the most part.
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I'm not generalizing/ They just are generally unnecessary stupid things. And it's not only in Skyrim. Also I will say it again but I hate adding things that aren't in games. This is like cheating. You use sth, that is not meant to be. Well, I can make a weapon that one kills anyone in the game. This is mod too. And I doubt weapons made in mods are not OP. Also changing how amulets works. No, just no. I play only original games. If there is no fun in original, I won't consider trying mods. Base game should be good enough. And unnecessary weridnesses like realistic survival mod... what for? To make game weird? Nah. I only use utility mods in games. Like fixing HUD or stability etc. That's why only mods I used are treecapitator and Rei's Minimap mods in minecraft (and others like that, that improve things above the game mainly) and DSfix and retextures of dragonoid in Dark Souls. I don't need anything more than that. This rather ruin the game instead of make it better. The original game should be good, not mods to it.
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"Also I will say it again but I hate adding things that aren't in games. This is like cheating." It can be if you want it to be, but that's not always the case. In fact, it almost never is unless you look for that kind of thing.
You know Bethesda has paid modders, right? They pay certain people (or did) to make mods for their game. I don't think it's cheating when advocated by the company itself.
Edit: They also have a section dedicated to mods on the Bethesda website
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I hear you saying you like some mods and not others. That's what everybody does. They like some and not others. Everybody thinks some mods are stupid or ruin the game. But, if you like some, you have opened the door and joined the party. You can't say you hate mods but you actually like the mods you like.
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No. I don't like some mods and not others. I like different TYPES of mods that doesn't change anything in game, mainly improve. The only thing that changed game was Treecapitator, that was just to save time. Cause lumberjacks would be envy of how many wood I had in old MC times. Like few double chests full of stacks. And everything done manualy. Also I didn't like automated harvesting etc. It kills the fun of survival game, when You don't need to survive.
The only mods I use, say that again, are mods that fix the game. Not changes, modify or adds anything to it. I would have consider the game bad if I use mods that changes sth. Oh, I would replace Borderlands weapon level system with mod, because this system is bad. And this is for the fix. Not for making it different cause I don't like the original.
So no. There are no mods like that that I like. No add/modify mods.
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What you consider a fix and what other people consider a fix will be different.
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lol, there are inumerous reasons to use mods
adding content, like a piece of armour or weapon, loads of immersive plausible ones exist; graphics, plenty of mods that improve or change graphics in one way or another, such as textures and models; reintroducing cut-content; bug-fix compilations which were done by modders but somehow not by the devs; optimisation, if you need to squeeze frames, options vary from no loss at all in visuals to some that do affect them; immersion, perhaps you like seeing your feet if you look down, or to actually leave footprints on snow; gameplay mechanics, some people like to simulate temperature and hunger for some reason... , some want more developed vampiric immersion ; quests & such, there are definitely vanilla-quality-level quest-mods available; overhauls, there are some big overhauls, I personally use Requiem, though it's kinda hardcore, but it fixes one of the main things I dislike in vanilla Bethesda games, which is the awful levelling system of NPCs and overpowered-ness of the player along with the bullet/arrow sponges everything becomes
and on and on, the possibilities are endless. My Skyrim setup has some 150 mods in it, and it's glorious. It's super-immersive, got no "riculus" stuff in it, it's way more stable than one would expect, and it's the best Skyrim experience I've ever had so far. You just need a lot of time and know-how to get that many complex mods working well, which is the only proper argument against modding, it takes A LOT of time, time which one may not have available for it.
But to say "I hate mods" is to be really closed minded and talking out of ones arse about something one clearly knows nothing about.
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I don't want to say verything again. I think I already explained what and why I like and doesn't like as mods and I did it too many times.
And no, I'm not closed minded. I see You just get mad? Why? Just because I said sth You don't like? That I have my own opinion with arguments telling why I think like that? Because I don't think like You want me to think? No, this is no reason to call kme closed minded.
I already stated my opinion, told why i think that. Maybe it's You who is closed minded If You can't stand someone else's opinion, hm?
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Actually, I owned Legendary Edition (base game + all DLCs) and I automatically received the Special Edition. But I don't know if it was something only for those who already had everything at the time Special Edition came out.
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It was exactly that- a special gift celebrating release of Special Edition to all those who had Legendary at the time SE came out
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Indeed, at one point, owners of Legendary Edition (the whole pack, aka a "Game of the Year" bundle released some months/years after Skyrim "vanilla") or Skyrim + the 3 DLCs (bought separetely) were given Special Edition for free. I also got the Special Edition this way.
But there was a deadline, it has ended like the day or a month after the release of the Special Edition, I don't remember exactly.
They could have given the "cheap" Legendary Edition for free for owners of the "expensive" Special Edition, but of course it would have been a problem for their Creation Club and the paid mods, so...
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Oh, last I checked there were barely any mods supported on Special Edition because they had to be completely re-made or something. Did that change?
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which doesn't really say anything by itself
simple mods should work straight away in either version, say weapons and armour, even quests perhaps
complex stuff on the other hand, anything that requires SKSE... well, gotta get SKSE ported over first, but then it should be all the same again
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It was rather just theoretical question, cause I don't intend to buy Skyrim. Was just curious. But I think You can be right. new version will get more feaure and could be more stable.
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Special Edition is more stable, some popular mods are more up to date and there are some exclusive mods too
Legendary Edition has more mods available, because not all of them are compatible between both versions, but most of them are being ported to Special Edition or you can port yourself. Some are compatible without the need to port.
but if it's your first time playing Skyrim, I would suggest being minimalist about using mods.
Also keep in mind you need at least 8gb ram and a decent cpu to benefit from SE stability, in low end rigs LE performs better (like in mine, which has a C2Q Q8300 and 4GB ram)
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It was more like "what if" question cause I rather won't buy Skyrim.
Also I don't really like mods. The only mods I ever used and needed in games were:
So actually I don't need any mods. I only use what is really needed or useful.
Anyway, thanks :)
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Get Special edition if it's about the same price, 64bit, it's what any future mods/updates are going to be concentrated on since it's newer. The only few really needed mods are UI mods and open cities that I can remember, and the unofficial patch because bethesda game. I mean, a UI mod isn't absolutely needed but open cities really cuts down on load screen times and increases immersion.
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Okay, I will consider this when I will buy it :) Now I just asked with curiosity. Won;t buy it now. Maybe in the far future :) Thanks.
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Don't tell me what those things are, I know.
Legendary is original + all DLC, right?
And Special Edition is remastered.
So... if I buy Legendary, would I get Special Edition too or vice versa? Or those are completely separate games? I know they were giving Special Edition for everyone for free, who got original + all DLC's, but I bet it doesn't work like this anymore. But maybe?
Or maybe if I buy Special Edition, would I get original one too?
EDIT: Thanks for everyone who helped. I'm not buyinf Skyrim (it was more like just being curious than intending to buy). Maybe int he future I would, But not right now. Thanks!
EDIT2: I'm closing the tread but it comes too far. Guys. You can't force me to use or like mods. Some people try to force people think like they do. For anyone else: thanks again for helping.
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