In fact, blaming people is not efficient, you should blame company who product this trash and gouvernement who don't want to take law to disallow the production of this trash...
We have all the technologie to replace plastic for packaging good, and we don't wanna use it while company get money producing and selling plastic ...
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companies are made up of people. People are the ones that to save a buck don't dispose of materials ecologically.
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Our last administration said that corporations are people too.
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Pretty sure that was the supreme court upholding ideas existing a long time before the last administration.
Most of the people appointed to it throughout the past 30 years were Republican appointees, so you can blame them, rather than Obama if you feel so inclined.
Other countries make the distinction between "people" and "persons" a company/society/corporation is a legal person as far as its rights is concerned.
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Pretty sure it wasn't. The last administration didn't say it was a bad thing. Just business as usual.
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You should probably google it then.
You appear to be confused about how the branches of government operate and what powers they have.
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I did and what I said meant nothing about the branches of government.
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The last administration
the executive
Not the last administration
the judicial
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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What does redirecting the conversation have to do with all the branches of government? The last administration still decided that corporations are people.
I can see why you are doing this to get the discussion bogged down with other things and accomplish nothing.
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it was disney trying to keep its copyrights. since pushing back how long you can hold a copyright after the creator dies was only a temporary solution and they already did tha.
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We don't. If we used glass we would run out of sand faster than the earth could replenish it for what plastic is used for.
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Yes we do, desert sand can be used to make glass and we will have plenty of that in the future. Besides that, there are enough organic alternatives that work just as well if not better for most packaging etc.
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must be so comfortable to blame 'others'.. to blame wealthy, to blame businesses, but the simple fact is that companies make money... they make money by selling things... if people didnt buy things, if people refused to pay for things they felt were unethical or harmful, then companies would change.
Why would they change? because they wouldnt be making any money... theyd wonder why.. theyd do market research and find out that people didnt approve of their methods. They would change their methods, promote, and make money. Other companies would see the positive change resulting in financial benefits and they would follow suit. This is how business works. They sell what the market wants, what they will pay for.
This is 100% the fault of the consumers.
Yes companies can, if they choose, operate 'more ethically' but at the end of the day, if PEOPLE are given a choice between paying a little more for an ethically sound product, or bargain basement prices for an unethical one, the majority will always opt to save a buck because people just dont give a shit. They like to pretend they do, but when it comes down to it, they dont. So lets keep the blame where it really belongs - with the people who SHOW companies what they want, with their wallets.
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I work for a parcel company. A lot of the stuff we move is organic or free trade or plastic free bought by well meaning people online. The parcels get sent out from delivery depots on pallets wrapped in plastic shrink wrap that gets ripped off and trashed at the hub and then sorted onto new pallets that are then shrink wrapped to be sent out to the delivery depots. In terms of fuel it would be vastly more efficient for people to grab stuff at their local store than our vans to roam up and down every street in the country dropping off 'sorry you were out' notes.
I don't know. I grew up in a rural area and I love nature and the environment and shit and I don't even know the answers, but it is absolutely up to the consumer and I doubt the right choice is often even the same thing as the trendy 'ethical' choice...
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A huge contribution to the amount of microplastic in the oceans comes from washing machines that capture small particles from clothes and then drain the water with them. I have no idea, how and if that is even possible to prevent.
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There are certain types of plastic material that pretty much just shouldn't be used anymore.
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They add plastic droplets to some peeling cosmetics.
That's insane amount of tiny plastic, that get flushed down, and dumped into rivers and seas...
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It's part of the reason why BPA free plastics have become so popular in drinking bottles.
https://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/green-science/bpa.htm
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The problem is, we're not sure if BPA replacements are any better...
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That's a load of crap. The plastic news is a real concern. But the world has more than enough food to feed everyone. Every year richer Nations destroy stored food and pay farmers not to produce certain crops in order to control prices somewhat. There are areas of drought every year, but we could feed those people if we had the will and if governments would cooperate with each other and prioritize feeding hungry people.
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Government involvement in farming is very complicated in U.S.
http://www.harvestpublicmedia.org/post/paying-farmers-not-farm-not-exactly
https://grist.org/food/our-crazy-farm-subsidies-explained/
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/jul/13/us-food-waste-ugly-fruit-vegetables-perfect
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conspiracy or not, the food industry is still one big business. While we might be able to sustain the whole population with food, if it doesnt make money it wont happen. People will die still..
This kind of applies to everything these days. Everything revolves around money. These days you cant even be sure whether a charity is legit or not.. Some time ago the biggest charity in my country was lead by a women who was busted stealing a loooooooot of money from money that was supposed to help families and orphans and such..
Anyway - Im not really making a factual argument, I might be full of shit (the stealing women is real though)... But Im not very optimistic and trustful when it comes to big business and "non profit help"
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everything leads to cancer and a "premature death" one way or another.
that sounds like a conspiracy theory. 🤷
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i'm just pointing out the irony of calling go's comment a CT while you did the same by claiming it's the absolute truth.
i agree with both comments though, corporations are known to destroy food to keep up prices (they do it everywhere, like throwing away milk or tomatoes), and cancer is a common illness because of the life expectancy we have now (people with a life expectancy of 30-40 in the middle ages didn't have enough time to get cancer).
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Well, don't forget the greatest risk to your health. One far worse than any cancer or other disease.
Life.
Life is the worst thing for your health as it is 100% fatal.
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Everybody who has been diagnosed with cancer can recall drinking water at some point of their lives.
100% of serial killers, rapists, and drug dealers have admitted to drinking water!
100% of all people exposed to water will die!
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Plastics are a huge problem for the environment and probably humans, and I'm sure that some of the information in the reports are true. However, I'd be wary of anything printed in the Daily Mail. It's a newspaper that sells based on fear-mongering rather than reporting facts.
Even Wikipedia doesn't trust them
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Can confirm its a problem and equally dangerous to metal particles; and if someone doesn't believe me, go ahead and buy a 3D printer & print with ABS non-stop in your bedroom with no ventilation system :)
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I've always been a fan of dying. In a sense, I live for it.
So this is good news for me, I hope at least half of the world dies within 30 years.
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13,000 Years ago Human race almost vanish, some animals extinct due asteroid impact size 0.7 mile 11-12 MTon mass
If any civilization exist at time everything vanish to this date due sea level increase globally 30m + tsunami wave + most surface burn + global winter continued by 1500 years of Ice age
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2018/11/impact-crater-found-under-hiawatha-glacier-greenland-ice/
http://www.news.ucsb.edu/2018/018701/big-burn
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the article doesnt say any of that.
theres no geological or achaeological support for what you state (that ive ever seen).
the crater is in a region known for geologic instability and all the evidence the article mentions falls in line with a major eruption.
national geographic stopped being a dependable source of anything but whackjob tv "documentaries" a long time ago.
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and Younger Dryas boundary scince article about nanodiamonds in this lawyer as proof of impact
http://science.sciencemag.org/content/323/5910/94
And I recommand also this
*Implications of YD Black Mats
No skeletal remains of horse, camel, mammoth, mastodon, dire wolf, American lion, short-faced bear, sloth, tapir, etc., or Clovis artifacts have ever been found in situ within the YD age black mat, and no post-Clovis Paleoindian artifacts have ever been found in situ stratigraphically below it. Whereas 14C ages of the youngest Clovis sites overlap with those of the oldest Folsom sites at one sigma, the stratigraphic separation is clear (13). The megafaunal extinction and the Clovis-Folsom transition appear to have occurred in <100 years, perhaps much less, and are defined stratigraphically by the Z1–2 contact. This contact and the initiation of YD black mat deposition appear not to have been time transgressive (Fig. 5). This implies that extinction of the Rancholabrean megafauna was **geologically instantaneous, essentially catastrophic***
https://www.pnas.org/content/105/18/6520
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We live in a plastic age. Plastic is fantastic. We made it. We live it.
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It's not new, we already know that for many years and there is also a lot of product considered endocrine disruptor (as, for example, the Bisphenol-A (BPA) which was originally created to serve as synthetic estrogen to replace the natural hormones of postmenopausal women but plastic manufacturers have used it as platic material because it was endowed with many useful tools like a strong polymerization but with time and heat and/or UV exposition was depolimeryzing and so slight particles of this product are found in the surrounding environment and it's very dangerous for newborn boys with baby bottles made with BPA and it was a huge problem of these past few years).
There's also a lot of dangerous plastic product nowadays, there's still no "safe" material.
We must be very careful with the products we use and especially with children (for example we know that phthalates are also endocrine disruptor and are banned in many countries but there's still signs of phtalates in like 20% of kids toys).
Also we are all exposed to this kind of dangerous products in our house, all kinds of plastics disintegrate in the air andwe inhale this type of product every day, which is why it is important to ventilate your home even if you live in a capital and the air is very polluted outside because pollution inside your home can sometimes be much more dangerous than outside
I really like this kind of topic, I am currently studying chemistry and I'm thinking of continuing my studies in green chemistry and materials
because plastic is essential in our society and it is imperative to find products or alternatives that would be above all more respectful of our health and the environment and if some of you don't know what to do later you should take a look if you are interested.
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3D printers will only make it worse, as they spread tiny plastic particles around. Or at least those I saw few years ago did that. Esp those "open" printers from china that can be bought for few bucks on AlliExpress. You'd need to have closed printing area with filtration system, so released particles would get stuck on some filter.
There are organic alternatives to oil-based-plastic, but they are not as durable / stiff / long-living as traditional plastic counterparts. So you won't make robot gears with polymer made from starch for example.
Sadly we need plastic right now, only problem is that most of it is not re-used, but dumped instead on landfills or in oceans. My mum is lazy enough to not flush and throw to plastic yogurt cup... she eats inside and dump in general trash. A lot of problem with plastic pollution is created by people like her.
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don't worry people. we are as good as saved already!
EU is banning plastic straws and alike. so no more worries at all since 99% of all plastic in the oceans is in fact plastic straws thrown into the ocean by evil brits, frenchies, spanish, italian and of course germans. always the evil germans.
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There are a lot of things that is "beileved to" cause cancer, chips, plastic, meat, and so on. Its hard to believe that plastic will be more dangerous than the many other things that "can" cause cancer.
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yes we are seriously screwed. business and governments have allowed the wholesale destruction of our environment!
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Plastic exposed on UV light decompose slowly on small microplastics that can ingest and inhale.
How wide problem is ?
Some source:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-6303337/Experts-nine-different-types-microplastic-stool-samples-water-bottles-blamed.html
https://drknews.com/effect-plastic-products-autoimmune-disease-thyroid-function-stop-using-plastic-coffee-lids/
http://experimentalvaccines.org/2012/04/19/93-of-americans-have-plastic-in-their-blood-urine-bisphenol-a-bpa/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5351661/Chemicals-plastic-90-teenage-bodies.html
https://www.sciencehistory.org/case-study-plastics-and-the-human-body
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