Steam takes more money in Europe?

Oh, ok, I guess the editors do. I just wasn't going into details because steam is the intermediary that directly faces us in this case, when you pay you give your money to steam, so I was just taking a shortcut.

Actually, as far as I know, the developer sets the suggested retail price for one region and then Steam handles regional pricing. Skyward Collapse, for example, costs 5 USD on its site no matter where you're from, but Steam does teh whole dollars=euros thing, so it costs more on Steam.

And as other people say, there are other sites (GMG, I believe) that gives you account a credit if they're forced to sell a game at dollars = euros, so why can't Steam?

Its steam and no one else that sets regional differences. And if you ask them they will tell you that they do this because there is VAT that must be included in EU price (i think in US their state taxes are set on checkout and not in the price).

Anyway 1 eur is above 20% more expensive than 1 usd, but vavle don't mind taking more (25% instead of 20%) than they should :P

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That it sucks? It's really nothing new, what else is there to say?

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Really? I had no idea my country was receiving money from Valve!

I expected someone to come up with that flimsy fanboy excuse. There are a few problems with it:

1. Different countries have different VAT levels. Some have none. Steam has the same inflated price for all of them.

2. In relation to 1., lets see if Valve sets a standard markup based on the average VAT across Europe. The average is about 20% (maybe a bit higher), the markup is well over 30%. So that's not it.

3. Again in relation to 1., lets assume that Valve aren't idiots and are using the loophole that allows them to only pay the VAT rate of the country they're registered in. That's Luxembourg, with a 15% VAT rate. So they're pocketing over half the markup.

4. Valve didn't implement the regional pricing until 5 years after the law that extended VAT to digital goods came into effect. So they clearly had some legal loophole that allowed them to operate without paying VAT. If that loophole was suddenly closed, or they were contacted by some authorities or whatever, why was it never announced? Why would Valve just shoulder the hate if they have a perfectly valid excuse for ripping off Europeans? Why not redirect the blame towards the EU / local governments?

5. Amazon, among many other digital distributors, have no trouble servicing Europeans without increasing the price. Perhaps Valve should ask them how they do it.

I talk about prices in general, here 50€ is a normal price for a 50$ game...

Well I mean, "normal" sites like Steam and Origin do that...

• never bought from g2play, I will try maybe
• greenmangaming doesn't accept my card or paypal either, and has price in €
• gog doesn't have Steam games :(

Trying taking in source of other expenditures into account, e.g. food, rent, transportation.... Life isnt just about wages and steam games....or maybe it is for you.

Because the two are so related -.-

Might as well have just said, "Don't complain about XBox One! Kids in Africa are starving!"

I'm not complaining about games being expensive ... Where did you read it? ... Nevermind.

Anyway, I prefer good indies (which are usually much cheaper), and I rarely (almost never) buy the big AAA titles, so I dont really care about 10 dollar being 10 euro, I just pointed that out.

And what this all have to do whit layoffs? Its hard to understand, what you really want to say, but I guess, you saying Europe is cheaper then the US? :D

Europe does not have cheaper necessities than the US and the protection you're talking about only exists in some parts.

I'm sure US taxes levied on earnings and fuel are also far more expensive than in the majority of Europe.

Uh... wait.....

or buy from other place..where you can pay in dollars

And why is piracy so widespread in Russia? Coz people there are frickin poor... BTW AFAIK they don't have Paypal which makes potential trading harder, riskier and less profitable. I bet if they could have PP accs, Steam would push the prices up :D

That's the "but I agree with you, some games in EU price are way more expensive even after adding the VAT to the US price" part, if you didn't read it.

Hammerfight: 1.99€, $9.99;
Dawn of War® - Platinum Edition 9.99€, $29.99;
S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl 6.99€, $19.99
and so on..

Ea hates Europe.