yeah but we can see it in the steamtrades link the impersonator sent you
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But he is kind of right. I'm not saying it's the right thing do to to try talking people out of their possessions, but he's right about the fact that people have the responsibility to verify everything if they decide to trade or stuff like that.
But just because you can do something, you shouldn't always do it. I never scammed and luckily never fell for a scammer
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I would say in a real backward way he has a point, but he is far from being 'kind of right'.
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Indeed everyone is responsible for their own actions. But he believes the mistake of another can and may be abused at will, since the other person started with the mistake, and is thus responsible for the consequenses. It is a matter of basic human morality.
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I wonder if they have a this skewed sense of morality, or if they're just a sociopath...
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The difference is that this guy is actively looking for these 'situations'.
If you'd try to defend him (not saying you do, just generally speaking) you could just as well defend any other type of criminal activity ('if someone steals your wallet it's you fault, because you could have kept it in a more secure place'). This guy is neither the best nor the worst scammer, it's just an antisocial scumbag not even worth talking about.
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You defend them by saying "it's victims fault they didn't check their trade partner".
What's different in "it's victims fault they didn't closed the door"?
Also, they weren't persuaded into GIVING something. They were persuaded into TRADING something. And then, when they done their part, their trade partner breaks agreement.
Are you going to shops, agree on paying for something and when shopkeeper gives you said item you run away?
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There was no persuasion into giving anything. This wasn't like begging for something.
This is more akin to something like a dine-and-dash. Get your goods and then bolt before returning your end of the trade agreement.
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Hey, at least this one wasn't a bot and could speak in English.
You got a good one.
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This is the chat(His name wil remain unknown for the sake of the real person):
20:08 - A. Blade: Hello
20:08 - (Impersonator): hey there
20:08 - A. Blade: What can I be of help with?
20:08 - (Impersonator): i saw your post on steamtrades
20:09 - (Impersonator): i am looking to buy some tf2 keys :)
20:09 - (Impersonator): do you have those in stock?
20:09 - A. Blade: I don't, I've only got Dota keys for sale.
20:09 - (Impersonator): oh well those are also okay
20:09 - (Impersonator): i just need keys :P
20:09 - (Impersonator): how much do you sell each?
20:10 - A. Blade: 1.25 Euros, 1.70 Dollars.
20:10 - (Impersonator): okay, then i can buy 12 keys, is that possible?
20:11 - A. Blade: It is ;)
20:11 - (Impersonator): 20,40 dollar
20:11 - (Impersonator): great!
20:11 - A. Blade: Indeed. Have you read my rules?
20:11 - (Impersonator): uhm yes ;)
20:12 - (Impersonator): can i see your steamtrades rep page?
20:12 - (Impersonator): if you have more i go first
20:12 - (Impersonator): ;)
20:12 - A. Blade: http://www.steamtrades.com/user/Wazaaguy
20:12 - A. Blade: Yours?
20:12 - (Impersonator): ah i see you have 41 rep
20:12 - (Impersonator): (Real person's link)
20:12 - (Impersonator): thats my steamtrades rep page, i have 230 rep at the moment
20:13 - (Impersonator): i trade alot, also with paypal
20:13 - A. Blade: Ah I see you're a scammer ;)
20:13 - A. Blade: Interesting to find one!
20:13 - (Impersonator): :P
20:13 - (Impersonator): wanna know how i do it?
20:13 - A. Blade: Why not I guess
20:13 - (Impersonator): well it costs 2 keys
20:13 - (Impersonator): and you can make alot with it
20:14 - (Impersonator): but its for a couple of people
20:14 - (Impersonator): otherwise it doesnt work that well
20:14 - A. Blade: I'm not interested in any of this business. Why do you think you have the right to take peoples possesions?
20:14 - (Impersonator): i dont take them
20:14 - (Impersonator): i get them from them
20:15 - (Impersonator): they give me their things
20:15 - A. Blade: By false means, how old are you?
20:15 - (Impersonator): i dont steal or hack or crack or break into something
20:15 - (Impersonator): does that matter?
20:15 - A. Blade: You lie, that's not any better
20:15 - (Impersonator): i dont say its better
20:15 - (Impersonator): Why do you think you have the right to take peoples possesions?
20:15 - (Impersonator): you say that i take their possessions
20:16 - (Impersonator): and that i think that i have the right to do that
20:16 - A. Blade: Because I give something in return that they want.
20:16 - (Impersonator): no i dont and no i dont
20:16 - (Impersonator): yeah but that is the risk
20:16 - (Impersonator): its your choice to verify me
20:16 - (Impersonator): and if you dont, its your fault
20:16 - (Impersonator): not mine
20:16 - A. Blade: For the trade?
20:16 - (Impersonator): what do you mean?
20:16 - A. Blade: verify you for what?
20:17 - (Impersonator): verify if im real
20:17 - A. Blade: If I don't verify you, it's my fault?
20:17 - (Impersonator): yes
20:17 - A. Blade: Uncanny.
20:17 - (Impersonator): exactly
20:17 - A. Blade: Please get out of my face now
20:18 - (Impersonator): lol
20:18 - (Impersonator): okay
20:18 - (Impersonator): bye!
20:18 - A. Blade: Bye! BTW, gonna share this interesting talk on the fora!
20:18 - (Impersonator): go ahead ;)
20:18 - A. Blade: No problem, you're either the best or worst scammer ever
20:19 - (Impersonator): hehe
20:19 - (Impersonator): thanks!
20:19 - A. Blade: Die in hell! I get really mad because of people like you!
20:19 - (Impersonator)is now Offline.
Kinda lost my temper at the end, sorry for that. But I wanted to share, found it a bit funny to meet this scammer ;)
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