Thanks.
So it's just another example that you can't make everybody satisfied.
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This is because it might not look fair for somebody like me living in ROW region that somebody from RU+CIS for example can join my giveaways, but I can't join his.
I'm not blacklisting for that, as I know pretty well that it's not anybody's fault but Valve, and those users can't even buy ROW games if they wanted (without breaking rules), but still - it's kinda disappointing seeing a winner of your L4+ giveaway with all of his gifts being region locked - it's like L0 user joining my L4 giveaway - he didn't contribute anything I could join.
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Sounds like a pool much water in but no water out.
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Exactly. But also it doesn't have to be something personal or meaning that you made something wrong. Some users just blacklist other users to increase the chance to other people with less won giveaways or that have contributed more to the community or whatever. Each user uses their white/blacklists as they want.
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One thing are site rules, another thing are the rules that each person of this community can use. If someone is blacklisted by a user, he can still enter in another giveaway from any of the hundreds of people creating giveaways daily. Please avoid drama.
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Pls don't add me to bl just for toooooooo many i's,
because "i" sounds like 爱 in chinese which means "love",
and I need love. ( ̄▽ ̄)~■ Cheers □~( ̄▽ ̄)
Who doesn't ?
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There's ROW-users that create regionlocked (e.g. cheap russian copies) to boost their CV.
Then there's non-ROW-users that pay a lot more than they should just to give everyone a chance to win a game.
As you can see, some people abuse the system, others try to find ways to provide nice gifts. Of course most of the non-ROW-users are not able to create such giveaways as they don't want to use grey markets but if someone wants to blacklist them for that reason, it's their own decision.
PS: Blame Valve.
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er. It's reasonable. That's why bundle games count 15% of full price.
I'll think more about it.
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So not to create drama, but... there's no SG rule; just as perrolijo mentioned each user can blacklist (and whitelist, mind you) for ANY reason he/she/it believes without further authorization. It's personal. Now, it could be taken as discrimination or racism, kinda. Why? well, it's not our fault that the system decided to implement region restrictions and we happen to live outside considered ROW.
Furthermore, not only the simple fact of giving is ignored but also punished (being BL'ed) because we cannot or would not provide ROW games.
Now, as I said, no drama, but SG is composed by users, there is "cg" giveaways, of course, and devs too, but that's just a drop in the sea.. compared to the amount of users. If they, each and everyone decided they just want ROW giveaways then we're pretty much done.
I've been here around 3 years. I've been in other sites that implemented region restrictions in their sites so it's a NO-GO for us. It's their business and so far nothing can be done other than just abandon such site and look for greener pastures..
Even humblebundle implemented region restrictions tho conditions are unclear at least to me, so, most affordable gifts (bundles) might most likely be regionrestricted ones; those in our (same) region would be happy as it's less competition; but the creators are the ones on the sharp end of the sword, figuratively speaking :P
Anyhow, hope it doesn't become a thing, but we have to respect others people decisions that are not part of FAQ and common rules and social behavior in this kind of communities.
Have a great weekend :)
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Not trying to make drama. As guys above said, maybe theres a bit unfaire for the region-limited gifts. (though I agree it's Valve's fault not ours).
If there is a rule, there must be a reason. I posted here, asking for the reason.
And I got answers.
Thank you have a good weekend too.
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no sweat it man, I got ya loud n clear! I'm in southamerica so I know how it is..
Can't do nothing about it, it's Valve's fault (and those who took advantage so Valve enforced all this).
We still have GOG, as soon as they update their platform-- it'd be a dream! :D
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There is no rule about it but as Archie has pointed out regional restricted GAs are like Blacklisting without the Blacklist.
Image a user created exclusivly region restricted GAs: All users from every other region can't enter any of their GAs just the same as if they were blacklisted by the creator.
If that person only won region restricted GAs from his own region there wouldn't be any problem but normally they also win lots of ROW gifts while only giving back to their own region.
I personly haven't blacklisted anybody for that reason yet but I understand why many people consider it a problem.
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It isn't a rule that's set in stone, as i personally see giving away only region-locked games not as bad as giving away only in small, exclusively private groups, since with region-locks it might not be their choise that they can't get ROW copies.
It just seems unfair to them that they can't win from you, but you can from them, which kind of works as if you would have blacklisted them.
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I don't blame region-locked users for this, I blame Valve.
Besides, like Mullins said, giving away only to groups and entering public giveaways is just as bad and no one seems to care about that, so why should I care about region locked users entering public giveaways?
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I view people who make only group giveaways waay more harshly than region locked ones. With people who make region locked giveaways I see it just being what it is and wouldn't blacklist them for it. It's actually pretty nice to see when they make the effort to do ROW giveaways.
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developers don't want their games traded from cheaper regions so they implement region locks. that's fine and i agree 100%.
valve doesn't give the option to buy ROW games at full price. fail.
valve sets up region locks for whole areas, including countries still paying US store prices. double fail.
bonus: developers and publishers releasing bundles with region locks without warning. super fail.
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And here I thought the rule was that they couldn't be more than 50% maroon....
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One guy on a forum I always visited said,
He said he'd been blacklisted by somebody, since his region-limited gifts is about 64%, more than 50%, which breaks SG's purpose.
I truely think it's ridiculous, but I can't be sure is ture or not.
Wish it's not.
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