regifters don't read rules and they won't read this thread either. :3
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Well, tbh, when I see somebody regifting as region locked, I do wonder if they did actually read the rules :P
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South America people cant actually gift a game bought in steam to other countries. Steam itself blocks this.
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worse than that is that these regifters have absolutely no sense of self-value and honour. Nope, just corrupt crapheads.
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Didn't enter. Did read. That makes me a rarer breed.
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i already blacklisted almost 40 people for regifting it. even reported one of them who had regifted ten other games previously and they are permanently banned now. :)
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Yup, it's been good for identifying the serial rule breakers.
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wow, If I hadn't already whitelisted you, I would have done it for this.
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Can you link me the list or something? I'd like to employ your blacklist to keep the scum away. I'm giving away hundreds of dollars in games and I want people that will actually use it on their account to win, not people trying to resell them.
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http://www.steamgifts.com/archive/search?q=apollo
the archive is very useful. you can even see which users deleted theirs (if you are feeling magnanimous and dont want to blacklist them, although just because they deleted doesnt mean they are ok. the one who was permabanned deleted their apollo giveaway too. even activated one of their unactivated games... but it didnt fix the other 11 unactivated ones ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ )
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Thanks. I'll get to it after listing these new giveaways.
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Also, whitelisted you for being honest, helpful, and (judging by your profile) legit as ****.
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Ty for the link
List is in favorites for future reference
most people on the list:
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it's annoying, report them
for me,i only enter giveaways for the games that i want, and i end up not winning it xD
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If you have the time and inclination you can report them. Getting suspended can wake people up.
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unless they make a ton of steam accounts but loool, I'm with you, for some, suspension will help wake them up
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But the account must atleast worth more than 100 dollars to join on SteamGifts
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oh, my bad, never knew that, maybe it will work then, idk, I just don't think you can stop this kind of behavior no matter how hard you try, it's always going to spring up.
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and even if they invest $100 on each account, it takes 1 mistake and all will be banned from here.
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Investing 100$ UNBUNDLED amount into an account only to be able to win games on SG? That sounds so silly I can't even imagine anybody doing that.
100$ rule works.
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you could buy RU games and activate them on farm accounts, you don't even need to spend over $20 for that.
and anything people do here to exploit the system is silly and stupid, yet that doesn't stop them.
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Yeah but spending even 10$ (assuming -90%) just to win a couple of bundle games in a year is simply not profitable.
But yeah, practice taught me that people are still doing that, sadly.
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I've seen people on here with almost no games who didn't even get in during free weekends. I suspect there are also folks exploiting the refund feature to make accounts here (buying games, making steamgifts accounts, refunding the games, buying more games as gifts with the refund money and trading them for profit or returning them to a main account).
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i believe the 100$ check happens at the weekly sync anyway. so that wouldn't work (well, not for long ^^). at least i remember seeing something like that - people getting banned, after they got in during free weekends.
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People have gotten kicked for it - but as far as I know only after drawing attention to themselves and being reported. If people are supposed to be checked weekly and automatically kicked then it simply isn't working properly. I'm not going to name them because of the calling out rule but at least a few accounts I noticed with only f2p games have been leeching away for a while.
I don't claim to know exactly what is going on but there seems to be some reliable method of evading whatever checks are in place.
And to add further confusion it didn't take much digging to also find some perfectly nice and legitimate users who would have been kicked a while back if there was a weekly check due to almost all of their games being bundled since they joined.
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When I joined SG, I was nowhere near $100 unbundled games. Maybe a lot of bundled games work, too?
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Rules were different back then. Do not confuse SGv1 with SGv2.
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Just tried to register with my alt account, the result is:
Account could not be verified with 589 games, valued at $37.96. Required value, $100.00. Please wait another 10 minutes before trying again.
That account has only 50 games.
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Can be free weekends, free packages, deleted games, anything. I didn't code the algorithm that checks the value. If you want, you can ask API yourself to check appIDs of those 589 games.
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Still, $37.96 is pretty high for a bundled-and-free-game account. Let's say I add 100 more bundled games in there, and it will eventually reach $100.
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the average bundle game costs you maybe 20-30 cents. so if you added enough bundle games in order to pass the 100$ test, you might not be that far away from having invested 100$ (except if you only add indiegala happy hour games ;) ). well, maybe the real sum you invested then is only 50$ or so. but that's still a lot of money, just for the possibility to win games in level 0-1 giveaways. most of what you win with such an account is bundle games. you would have to win a lot to make up for your initial investment. ^^
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I'm not so sure about this '1 mistake'. I saw some regifters I even reported few yet their acoount weren't suspended.
Eventually, I think, yeah, they will be out. But it takes a lot more than one mistake, from what I saw.
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Same thing here haha, i didn't win this giveaway geez lets go suicide
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I would, but knowing my luck the bullet would misfire and not work, the rope would break, the plastic bag would get a hole in it, the toaster wouldn't land in the bathtub, when I jumped off the bridge I'd land on a trash barge, and when I cut my wrists the knife would break and I'd still survive.
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Seeing how many games you've won here, I trust you.
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Frustrating, indeed. But hang on, you'll eventually win something.
Thanks for your giveaways and happy new year! :)
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Also, added you to my whitelist. I have a giveaway going on (nothing fancy unfortunately, but a game you don't seem to have).
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Thanks! I entered. I'm not greedy. I love cheap, fun games as much as the AAA games. Even simple stuff like Woodle Tree Adventures. :)
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Gib me pls.
dumbasses pls read below no offence xD
(This is a JOKE)
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Ugh, well when i first started out here i made the mistake by giving away a free game, but i never thought about regifting something i won. I always directly activate it.
A little bit offtopic: Currently i have a winner of one of my GA's and i noticed that he got 3 inactivated gifts on his steam acc from GA's he won recently. What should i do from here? I wrote him a offline message on steam, telling him i would like to see my gift activated, but he didnt answer to that. Advice is welcome.
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If it's not older than a month, you can ask support for a reroll ("ask for a new winner" on the winner page of the giveaway).
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Unless he already sent the key.
(And you can ask for a reroll even if it's older, it just will be approved only if the user has not been suspended yet)
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But am i 'allowed' to, since it's just suspicion, he got some inactivated gifts. He can activate it still i guess? I mean, i don't have any hard proof.
EDIT: I didn't send the key yet, i added him on steam to trade him the gift, but he isn't online much. I always inspect to see if they have the game/dlc already, checked his inventory and saw the last 3 GA's as a gift in his inventory. That's all i got.
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If he marked the gifts as received and they are not on his account a week after the end of the giveaways, he broke the rules.
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You mean all of them are less than a week ago? Then you can wait. If you haven't already sent the key/gift, you have 7 days from the end to do so.
EDIT. after reading you edit: wait till a week has passed from the earliest not activated, if it's not activated by then, ask a reroll. if it's activated, wait till the second one and so on. As long as 7 days haven't passed from the end of your giveaway, you can wait.
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Ok, thanks for the advice all - sorry for the threadhijack.:-)
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Screenshot his inventory, send it along with a ticket for a re-roll to support.
Nvm, didn't realize they were less than a week ago.
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When he hasn't activated them but marked as received it counts as "unactivated" so you would be eligible for a re-roll. He may activate the games afterwards, but that shouldn't bother you anymore, as you already have a new winner for your GA.
recently in your sentence should mean "within the last month"
Edit: Oh a lot of replies already :D
Edit2: and all are different D:
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you don't even need proof of anything.
not activated or multiple wins = send a reroll ticket.
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if only staff could deal with reports faster
next time use sgtools, seems that its the best idea so dar
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Support deals with reroll requests pretty quickly (usually in a day or two).
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Well, when a reroll is requested, the user is checked, so they do get suspended... you could just add all the regifters to your whitelist... then make a whitelist giveaway and request rerolls :P
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that is just brilliant !!
pure gold
You sir just made my night :D
You start to thinking about the community when you see all the rule breakers and then bum, you see post like this. Its just fantastic.
again, thx
PS
i reported you to god and santa, so next christmas you will probably be spawned with presents, brace yourself
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if you haven't sent the gift/key yet, don't even ask him.
request a new winner from the ga>winners page. support will check.
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Just check the archive and it is really bad this time around :/. Sucks but better luck in the future :D.
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I believe I broke my record of blacklisting regifters today...
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oh, that explains why i have won...10.000 :D
(and i've activated it)
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Should i buy doom 3 if i already have doom 3+ every doom classic game? Also,should i buy rage? is it good?
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I don't even bother blacklisting them anymore.
None of them will ever get past level 1 or 2, so you just set your GA level restriction higher. :X
It's a shit deal for the legitimate lower levels who follow the rules, but oh well. I will spend less time dealing with BS.
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I did anyway, the list isn't that long (for now), be fast. :D
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They just might. There's been a glitch in the chilean store, with Heroes of Might and Magic being sold for 0.14 USD, and a huge amount of those have been given away, and the gifters getting the full 30p. Now, one of the Apollo4x regifters I blacklisted had actually already regifted one of those, and was very close to lvl 3.
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Thanks for the heads up, I'll move to restricting to level 5 GAs :X
oh damn, you're level 4, now i feel bad :X
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Yeah, well, from ym own experience, even higher levels public GAs aren't free from problems. I checked level 5, level 6 few times. I don;t think I have created something for higher levels.
BTW, it;s sad because I would like to BL some people too, but with few thousand games filtered I didn't even know that there was massive GA for Apollo xP
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Why don't CG disable the giveaways for this game?
Let's be honest here people, how many if you are buying/or planning to buy this game from the Steam store to give it away here?
Just disable them and problem solved.
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Funny thing, many of these regifters are from Russia.
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It's a similar thing to CS:GO trading. 95% of all the Russians and Polish people that would add me to trade or buy/sell either try to lowball me bad, scam me, or steal stuff.
In fact, earlier today one of the Russians who won my game added me on Steam after I emailed him the DLC. He wanted me to send it to him on Steam "to keep it in his inventory". I had to explain to him that it was against the rules and that anything he wins is for him to put on his account and use, not to trade, regift, etc.
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oh, snap, I need to check some accounts of recent winners. Guess There are still a few things I need to learn after all....
Edit: Looks like everything is in order this time around but that's a good thing to look out for in the future.
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I am from Poland and it hurt me when I see compatriots who trying steal something from another people(once people from Russian stealing my steam account so,I know that ache)
Sorry for my English(because I am stupid idiot which can't learn that language)
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Relax. Most Americans can't even type or speak proper English, and it's their frickin' native language.
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I'm always surprised when people who have English as a second language apologise for their abilities. I have to assure them they speak English admirably well. I can't even speak any other language well enough to apologise for not being able to speak it.
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Well, I'm fluent in Spanish and used to be in Hebrew, so at least I have that going for me. :D
It's just shameful when guys like tomo are cool and can speak (at least) 2 languages and you have idiots like my fellow 'Muricans that can't even speak ONE language properly.
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It's not only the regiftling thing.. also I've seen someone today who gave away Alien Breed: Impact (what have been for free) and said he could not add a GA with that name (in discription) so he made a GA for AB-Trilogy and only gave the key to AB-Impact. But got the full points for Trilogy .. sure I reported him, but only a few mins later he regifted Apollo .. -- *blacklisted
It's just not fair for ppl that really spend money, be that kind and give things to other ppl, .. so they get points to lvl up rank. But faking a GA ... no way, that's truly ridiculous.
Anyway, to all of you that are REAL and play/give fair. THANKS to you and the great chances even some poor ppl, like me, get that way.
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I feel you bro! I also wanted the game, and it's just sad they re gift what the won. Pathetic imo...
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I've blacklisted more people today than I have the whole time I've been on SG!
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Most of the guys regifting that I saw were serial regifters...
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I'm one of the lucky 50% and I believe that New year is the time to make people happy. Hope no one activates the key I've won except OP.
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You should probably activate that game on your own account, or else you will risk suspension due to non activation of won games.
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Well, I'm not regifting it. I hope mods will understand the situation because I think this guy needs the game more than me. I'll remove the link to the image and activate the key If this message is an official warning. Thank you for understanding!
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thats a really nice thing to do, but im afraid most people here (especially in a few weeks) wont really care what have you done with your key :/
if it was up to me, id totally give you a green light but sadly, rules are rules and you cant really give away your keys to anyone, OP included :)
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Also chances are it was ninja'ed within seconds of you posting it -_-
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D'oh! Next time you want to give someone a key, friend them on Steam and pass it via chat or get their email address. Keys posted on a site like this are going to be scooped up within seconds.
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Thank you very much for the offer. I was out of the house getting rid of a computer CPU I picked up. I didn't get the key, unfortunately. I didn't expect to just get a free copy, but I appreciate you being nice and trying to help. :)
I blame nobody except the regifters and the idiots that win keys to sell them for money or items elsewhere. People that entered on accident are totally understandable and that happens. Deliberately breaking the rules out of spite or greed though... :|
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I'm not regifting it.
You are, you're just not doing it through giveaways. Regifting is giving a game to anyone else, just like the word states.
And since there's no actual way to tell the key you put up was in fact the correct key- or even a working key- there's actually nothing to do BUT suspend you for the infraction (unless you choose to buy a copy of the game yourself).
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You are clearly new here, please activate your won GA as soon as possible. You might get banned due to this.
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Just like most others commenting, I also use this as a good opportunity to blacklist people - not just because they didn't read the rules, but because it should be common sense not to abuse a system like this. I actually would quite like SG to not remove the free games from the database for a day or so, to weed out all the cheaters so that many of us can ban them from our own giveaways :-)
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It wasn't really "free", it was a 10k copy GA.
Free games get removed permanently. XD
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Actually I didn't realise it was a steamgifts 10,000 giveaway, I assume it was from one of those websites that sometimes give away lots of keys for free
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Fair point LOL.
OP probably doesn't want it removed, though. since he didn't win one :X
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There's always the possibility that someone actually paid for those games that eventually got free.
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How many innocents will have been wronged in this witch hunt? ;)
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absolutely none if they don't want the game don't enter it is so easy.
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I predict exceedingly few, though I hope people are actually checking to see if the game is in these accounts... as that would be a different copy.
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Even that is not foolproof. You can't prove whether they won the giveaway in the first place - and even if they did, you can't prove if the key they are giving away is the same.
For instance, I did not win the particular giveaway. Technically I could go buy the game and give it away now, and I'm not obliged to point anything out in the description either. This would likely land me on a million blacklists because people act without thinking.
Even if I had won the giveaway I might simply go buy the game and give it away before I activated the key. Technically maybe I hadn't even received a key yet because the creator has up to 7 days to send it, so you'd have up to those 7 days before it's assumed that it has to be active in your account (and thus detected by other people).
So basically people are as usual reporting and blacklisting 'blindly' because there is a huge chance that they are dealing with offenders, while in reality nobody is able to prove anything because of the information gap. So yes, it's sort of a witch hunt.
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Hoping that people are at LEAST checking the "won" page and making sure it's there, which would eliminate the majority of that scenario. And although you may have 7 days to activate a win, if you won it, and are giving away an entirely different key without activating the one you won... Well... you're kind of asking for trouble.
Just because you can do something, doesn't mean it's always wise. That said, I've kind of abandoned public give aways below level 2, so I'm not even bothering keeping blacklists under that level.. which may bite ME later
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Well, you can exclude the ones that take the time to write a description- AND were aware of the developer giveaways.
...so basically, every possible innocent [will have been wronged]. :P
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I wanted so badly to win my first giveaway, the 10,000 copies of Apollo4X. I figure hey, I have almost a 50% chance of winning. NOPE. Then I look on here and dozens of people are regifting it!
Seriously, if you don't want the game or you aren't going to put it on YOUR account, DON'T ENTER. Lots of people actually want to play the games. :(
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