Hola! I hope I'm not to late to ask for joining the group. I read the rules, and I like the idea of the balance between give gaming joy and enjoy gaming joy. And I will like to be part of that :)
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Pausing memberships for now until Gus gets back as he's on vacation. There's a number of changes I'd like to suggest including rule changes, entry requirements, and a purge of some of the current members.
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Oh, sounds fun and serious at the same time!
Well, will wait for the fresh news on the forum, and take a look on the new direction of the group.
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Oki, if I see I improve those points I will try to reach you again. Good luck with the group!
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I don't do full value giveaways at all other than on Christmas, so I don't think I'll be a good fit, but have a bump anyways :)
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Hi Feelside, your giveaway history does not look as though it would be a right fit for this group.
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This post shows how torn the group is and that you and gus judge with different standards and probably don't have the same things in mind gus envisioned.
Just some posts below he asked someone with just one GA in '25 and one GA in '24, a really thight CV ratio and only 2 full CV GAs about his win ratio to probably accept them and you're just being prejudgemental about a regular gifter and are gatekeeping again.
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Once again, Prosac, I ask you to please stop harassing the mods in the group. Forget about us, and stop hurting yourself. You were kicked out of the group, but it's just a group; your life isn't at stake. So, please let it go, go on with your life on SG normally, and stop harassing the mods. Thank you.
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I just made my opinion public for the first time, that's far from harassing and I did it in a polite manner, quite contrary to your mod, how told me to fuck off 2 times.
You didn't told me to stop with something before and failed to mention, that I was illegitimately excluded from the group, out ot the blue, without a rule break, without a warning and only on a "gut feeling" not even getting a chance to show that I comply with the rules or can fulfill play requirements, which I've done afterwards, even if all of my wins in the group had none.
And only 4 days later, rules are changed and include warnings.
In my opinion the whole case was even a rule break of old rule #1 (manners), but probably the rule was only ment to say thank you after wins, which should be the bare minimum.
Your mod acted unfair, prejudgemental and disrespectful and is still in charge, he was even that toxic and vengeful, after I didn't comply with new rules he just made up, that i know of 2 cases, where he went on another groups Discord, where he was trying to discredit me and told me to fuck off 2 times or that he contacted another group owner, where I'm member, trying the same and get me kicked out of that group. How many more cases are there, which I doesn't know of? Is this having manners and a friendly group you mentioned in the rules?
And after all this, where i was always polite, tried even to talk to them after the exclusion, with the result, that I got ghosted and also wrote an lengthy explanation to you, where i gave you the chance to resolve the issue in private, you're suddenly uncomfortable with someone speaking out the truth in public for the first time, when your mod already threw dirt publicly at me?
The incident with the "gut feeling" kicks (yes, I wasn't the only one) was so uncomfortable and unsettling for several members, that even 2 well-known and generous users left the group, which is by far not my fault.
I'm not the bad man here, I'm a just another victim of your mod, who you still side with and has a fitting bio on his Steam profile.
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look my guy, I can make mistakes. I'm perfectly fine with accepting that I don't know how to properly maintain a group without Gus or I don't know what I'm doing. I'm happy to stop being a mod. I just want to help Gus and if I'm unable to do that, I'm happy to leave.
And like I've mentioned previously, the kicks that I had done were not so much of a kick as much as a correction to increase entry requirements, and that you were allowed back. I don't think it's entirely unfair to remove members that do not satisfy an increase entry requirement, maybe because I don't know what I'm doing. Now that Gus is back, he is happy to take applicants again and can gauge everyone that I have kicked improperly back into the group. Except yours due to your conduct in three separate groups that I am ware of.
Edit: I constantly don't reply to you because of your incredibly aggressive behavior since the start. And I checked, I did tell you you could have joined back.
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And like I've mentioned previously, the kicks that I had done were not so much of a kick as much as a correction to increase entry requirements, and that you were allowed back.
Well, this was poor communicated, because I didn't got that memo. We talked in an old GA of mine and you could have told me that there, instead of ghosting me. I bet the whole outcome would have been different.
Except yours due to your conduct in three separate groups that I am ware of.
I don't know of three groups, there was only one another group, where I was excluded recently and where i was misworded as leecher, with running GAs and fixing my group balance just 2 days later, a thing a leecher usually doesn't do.
I also explained my behaviour several times, even to Gus, i could have entered GAs left, right and center, even ones with 1 entry, but I didn't, only some here and there, which was only for the purpose to lower my win ratio a bit, which I even told you, my intention was never to sneak up any wins or to annoy gifters of the 1 entry GAs with rerolls. And I'm honest, in this group i took it more like a sports challenge, I tried to troll and ragebait you, which worked perfectly.
And i want to mention, it's probably common sense to not enter GAs after being kicked, but often not explicitly mentioned in the rules, so if you are petty-minded, I didn't even broke a rule there. I even removed entries after talking to Gus to show my goodwill, but this probably went unnoticed.
I also don't know what other groups should have to do with this one, but I'm member of several groups for several years, where my group balance is fine, why aren't they drawn into the equation? I even have a positive group balance in dead groups without leader AFAIK, except one, where I exeeded the limit by about 20$ and which will be fixed soon.
It's pretty sad not getting a second chance, because of miscommunication even if I tried to reach out on several occasions.
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And again radio silence.
Accused me of bad conduct in three groups and maybe even more, without any proof, probably to discredit me again, also didn't explained several other things and still have me blacklisted.
Edit: Good you know my emotions, I already told you on Masafors Discord, that I'm not aggressive. And how exactly would you describe your behaviour?
Looking at our conversation here: https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/JsyHqHH
If you play more of your full CV giveaways, we'll feel more comfortable with you in the group.
isn't exactly telling someone that he could join back and could be misinterpreted, besides that rule isn't covered by the rules.
You guys changed the rules recently, why didn't you took such things in and being clear to people?
I know I'm bad at playing my wins, I also told you that I share my library with my brother and friends, so that my games are getting played. For example one friend was very eager to play Hogwarts in July and i have a friend who played a lot of the Fallout games, so I'm pretty sure he's giving Fallout 4 a try soon. Besides me also interested in every game I've joined, but I guess my backlog just went out of control, winning multiple games per week.
The group gave me a good motivation to finally play my wins, but sadly I wasn't given a chance to show that. And if you look closer at my play stats, you'll probably see that i played the wins i played seriously with 10-20h. I'm not a fan of that half-hearted mandatory production line play, 60 minutes, 3 achievements, next, just for the sake of the game getting "played". That's also the reason why I thought the group would suit me.
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HI gus09. It seems that my application for membership has been controversial on a matter I am not aware of. I feel like it's not appropriate for me to comment on it, so I'm asking now. I've read the group rules and I'll make sure to keep them. If there's anything that needs improvement, please let me know and I'll follow it. May i join?
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I'm sorry you got caught up in unnecessary spam. As I told you, your GA history doesn't suggest you'd be a good fit in the group. At first, I was overconfident and let people pass who took advantage of the members' incredible generosity. That's something I need to improve on. That's why I'm more strict now and look at cases individually.
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IIt's okay, Gus09 People can do that if they live their lives. if you say so, I will respect your opinion. However, I think there is a problem in some areas. The authority of the group leader is very powerful. If you share that authority with many people, it means that the potential for problems increases.
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Hi Gus, I would like to reapply. I have bettered my Ratio and am willing to fulfill the obligations and abide by the rules and regulation of the group. Have read over the rules page. My previous application was rejected because of my ratio not being over the minimum. I am already friends with you on Steam.
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My fault, I originally gave him one with a set expiry, this one should work perpetually: https://discord.gg/FQD5A4zTjs
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Think I missed the group recruitment post when it first came around a couple weeks ago, but I believe I qualify, so I sent in my request! Would be happy to join!
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By win ratio, are you referring to games played vs won?
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May I join? I've tried applying at really awful times haha. I understand the rules and the giveaways must be full value.
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I understand, I've never been part of a group that requires full value so i've never done it. I'm not sure I did the right thing but is this it?(https://i.imgur.com/o5818Wo.jpeg)
I totally understand if I'm not what you're looking for though.
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Have a run a group, helped run a group. Not envying the Mount Everest you have decided to trek. Good luck!
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Hi pinlias, there a couple giveaways you have made in the near past that are suspect and is not behavior we're a fan of.
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Our rules are based almost entirely on respect and common sense. You had two victories and no thanks for them, so I've looked at your overall victory history and it seems there's no thanks from you. I'm sorry, your return is impossible, as this is the most important rule of life for me. I'm sorry.
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Although your profile meets the minimum, you don't regularly do full-value GAs, and I don't know much more about you for now. I see that you only do and only get group wins, and that's not useful for a full evaluation, since I can't see the mannerisms in those wins. For now, I have to decline, sorry.
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You've only been here a short time and have almost always given away the same game, although it seems you've recently joined another group and changed your style, but that's not enough to give a rating. You can provide proof of the SG wins you've played; there are tools for that. Or you can wait longer so the rating can be more complete. Thanks.
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Hi thanks for reply. No problem mate, it's ok I understand. I think I will wait longer to improve my cv.
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i would like to join if you still accept requests...
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hola! not sure if it's me, but i can't access the group rules. i don't think i qualify either way since i can't make many full-value GA that aren't region locked (and i hate having to region lock things), but i was curious about them anyway
thanks and have a great (almost) weekend!
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Not sure if it's justpaste which is causing the issue but I've mirrored it onto pastebin if you want to give it a read: https://pastebin.com/2pQsd2fr
Keep in mind that "full-value" giveaways don't need to be expensive. There are a lot of highly desired full-value indies that people can give but we understand that this group may not be for everyone.
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I can't see the messages within the group giveaways but the sparse giveaways that you've won that I can see, you don't thank the giveaway host, which is important for this group.
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You're definitely right. In the past, I didn't really express my gratitude, but this year I reflected on that and started thanking people whenever I won something. I only participated in giveaways for games I genuinely wanted to play, and I actually played most of the games I received. I applied because I thought I could join the group if you viewed my future actions positively.
I'm really disappointed in myself for not being able to fully understand the group rules because I can't speak English well. :(
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Hello, I would like to join. Just missed out on the last admission opening a few weeks ago.
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Hi WeaoponizedSoup, though I don't have access to your second win, I have a strong suspicion that for both of the giveaways you have won, you did not thank for the game. Though I do like seeing you giving away a game you have won due to enjoying it, showing gratitude when winning on SG is important.
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The suspicion is unfortunate, as I have privately thanked both users. I don't blame you for the assumption since there are no public comments to examine. Feel free to reach out to both of the giveaway hosts to confirm with them.
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Thanks for correcting me on that. Gus will take a look when he's on then.
I'm going to give him final say on acceptance - I swear I'm not just ignoring everyone!
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hello everyone,
This group was created with the intention of creating a strong community of SG users.
Are you tired of running giveaways and not getting any thanks if they win?
Would you like to be sure that the people who are going to win are people who are going to play or really want it?
Are you tired of seeing the same giveaways over and over again?
Do you want to have more chances to win by participating against fewer users?
If you have one or more yeses to these questions, this is the group for you.
To enter, you must be level +3 and have a ratio, that is, real CV divided by real RV, greater than 0.35. (Periodic checks will be carried out so that we are all within that minimum ratio.). I will personally evaluate each case, and be more receptive to people who play their wins, who do full-value GA, and who have good manners when winning.
It is very important to read the group rules and you can read them here
It is now necessary to create a GA with 5 entries minimum when you join the group
To apply for this group, please comment on this thread and then request a group invite on Steam. If you are accepted, you're welcome to join the Discord server.
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