Hi everyone.

Not long ago I did some giveaways as part of a survey that some university friends of mine had made as a preliminary research for their thesis.
The responses were very well received, however they feel they wanted to retool the questionnaire abit based on feedback.

So i'm doing a bunch of new giveaways, and to enter all you have to do is answer a short survey - after which you'll get the links for the giveaways.
Thanks in advance for your participation.

The games are:

  • AI War: Fleet Command
  • Lords Of The Fallen™
  • Syberia II
  • The Silent Age
  • The Joylancer: Legendary Motor Knight
  • Paranautical Activity: Deluxe Atonement Editi...
  • Call of Juarez® Gunslinger

The survey can be found here:
https://goo.gl/forms/dxEnHAJHIz5RWrFf1

In order to avoid that my blacklist completes the survey and can't enter, and get mad, i've made a public giveaway that you can check your status on.
https://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/kNKze/epic-showdown

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The last question about length of tutorials is hard to answer. While I'll gladly mess around for half an hour (or even more) for a game like Civilization or Age of Empires, I feel like I've learned everything I need in 30 seconds in Borderlands. The categories you have for answers felt really wide and really narrow at the same time, if you get what I mean.

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nice

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I am gonna ask this again, will you be removing blacklisted users so they can enter the GA after taking the survey? Or is it a "thanks for your input but screw you" kinda thing?

7 years ago
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This is why i've added the free for all check giveaway this time.
I won't be removing people from my blacklist, they are there for a reason.
Sorry for the inconvenience last time, not a 'screw you' - i just didn't think of it last time, but i've made corrections this time so the people won't feel cheated again.

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Ok, thanks for the reply. I appreciate you taking the time to explain.
It didn't inconvenience me but i have been disqualified for a reward after completing entire surveys so i know it can be aggravating for those users.

7 years ago
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Not really into the games, but I did enjoy sharing my strong opinions about tutorials once more. :D

7 years ago
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Thanks for taking the time to answer - if they do another, i'll try to find some "better" games ;)

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tfw you thought that it will open the link in a new tab so you just simply left clicked on it and then wanted to go back T.T
-> at the start of the survey again :C
bump though, I will do it later again with the same data, hope it won't affect your survey that much c:

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About your question on tutorial duration, it's really hard to say: it depends on the complexity of the game.

IMO the tutorial should be as short as possible, on condition that it's long enough to show everything that needs to be shown, at a reasonable pace. So, for, say, a trivial platformer, this shouldn't take more than a few minutes. For some kind of complex strategy game, say Civilization or Europa Universalis, it might take a few hours.

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In my opinion this survey is not very effective, a big "DEPENDS" enters in each case, the tutorial lenght/complexity will depend on the game, you would be better by adding a case A and B of the same subject, like "which is better of these 2", for example, take the tutorial by exposition and the contextual tutorial. most people will say second case is better, now put the same picture of the controller as the scene background texture, it simply doesn't work like that, these 2 cases depends on the amount of buttons that can perform an action. As a general rule, don't overhaul the player with functions they don't need, if they are learning to move around it makes no sense to teach them how to combine items for example, so example one and 2 only works if the player will need all these "functions" during that scene. Best way is to introduce one function at a time, think metroidvanias, they force you to use an skill to escape the room you gathered id (in most cases). Btw! warioland 4 tutorial is one of the best examples I can think of the contextual tutorial.

Sign tutorials works if you make sure the information can't be missed, again think metroidvanias escape rooms.

No tutorial works if the player is not missing anything obvious, for example, don't assume people is aware of all functions, in minecraft it works because of the few controls, but don't hide unique actions as dropping items etc if the player is not aware of it.

And the Training in menu I think (because they are mostly in rts, which I don't play much) are ok as far as are "complementary" information, like better strategies etc, but if I have to read all that to proceed into the game is a No NO xd.

Gamers just want to play, they will not resist too many game pausing tutorials, is incredibly awful when the user can predict when it will pop up, so avoid at all cost if you have large sets of instructions.

So well hope this information helps, again nothing is a recipe when you make a game, just put in it what feels good on it, what will work for a game won't work for the others, testing is the key of a pleasant end user experience.

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Gamers just want to play, they will not resist too many game pausing tutorials

For those, IMO a must-have feature is to have a toggle somewhere easy to find which says "Do you want to see tutorial tips? yes/no"
Globally, all tutorials should absolutely be skipable, if only for the sake of players who already played the game before and don't need tutoring.

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The skip button is a cool addition that MUST be toggleable if used, there is nothing worst than not being able to see a dialog again, in some programs I have checked the "don't show this again" and sometimes I regret because I wanted to read whatever hahaha.

In case you can't use any other sort of tutorial than pause ones, and they are too long or whatever, do what bioshock does with the plasmids tutorials, they pause the game but show a funny cartoon about how to use the plasmid, so player doesn't notice he is being forced to read a boring toturial.

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Indeed, being able to "unskip" or reset the tutorial is quite important too. Happened to me a few time to accidentally skip something and then it was forever gone... :x :(

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I can't comment on how effective it is, as i don't actually know what data they are looking for. I'm just helping them out by spreading it.
But many thanks for your detailed breakdown here, i'm sure that will help them alot :)

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Bump!

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Done. Hope we can help. =)

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Thanks!

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bump ~

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There are a lot of "depends on..." for me in regards to many of those questions. I've answered what I feel overall, but the last question is a bit problematic, as it depends a lot on the game. If it's for say a platformer or a shooter, I would expect the tutorial to be short (and then they'll introduce the more advanced concepts through gameplay), while for a complex strategy game, a tutorial can take over 2h and still be fine.

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Done and Bump!

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Done

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Thanks to all who have answered already - just a notice, the survey and giveaways runs until wednesday next week :)

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Closed 7 years ago by darknath.