There certainly are people who feel that way. Yet certain titles like Battlefield are big enough to be kept EA exclusive and still bring in hordes of new faces. Origin isn't half as bad as people make it up to be. I've had a couple more problems with it than Steam, but the latter has been in development for far longer.
The objective for EA is to bring in more people to Origin. So in short-term, yes, going to Steam would bring money, but that's not their long-term plan. Ultimately your purchase doesn't matter as Origin is doing fine for now.
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No, EA don't care about who gets money as long as they get as much as possible.
Valve simply imposed a rule on every single publisher stating that any and all DLC sales must be available through Steam, meaning Valve can hopefully skim some money from it.
Ubisoft, Microsoft et al were happy to release Steam versions of their DLC, whereas EA weren't. Thus Valve plucked their games from the store. Once a version of the game was released that didn't require DLC (say, Crysis 2 Maximum Edition) it was released on the store.
There's no malice in this at all - it's a business decision.
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Steam/Valve fails to support even themselves. That's my point. They most of the ignore what you say, they usually can't help you.
What if they banned me account for some unknown reason, who would help me? Them? They're so slow and unhelpful that it would be easier to buy games again.
Meanwhile when you contact EA they help you 99.99% time.
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I guess EA wants 100% of money from DLCs. If I recall their financial reports right, DLCs became much better business for them than games...
If Valve would decide they will only want that 30% from game-pie and not force publishers to distribute DLCs through Steam too, EA would be more than happy to put it there. But Valve is in business, not in making customers happy.
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Wait a bit. Valve sells only the cut version of some games in my country because of money. Steam is an extremely buggy and unpolished piece of software, because there is no need developing a better one since the customers use it regardless. Valve forced every cs player to use Steam at the beginning although cs was a non-Steam game (Steam didn't exist). That's just from the top of my head and there are more reasons of why Valve is not customer friendly in many regards
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You didn't fix that, you only added other side of a coin.
With DLC-policy Valve makes both publishers and customers unhappy (seeing how there are tons of steam-or-no-buy zealots). I just think there are more customers unhappy with this deal...
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Well they don't make customers happy, too. Ever visited http://dev.dota2.com/ ? Since months matchmaking and mute system are utterly broken and I'm not even talking about hero parity with Dota 1...
And what does Valve do against it? Right: more hat$!
And with Steam goes the same, they don't even announce that they do marketbans because of deleted cookies and then they wonder why nobody likes it, they are too lazy to have a proper age verification and Steam support... I'll stop now. Valve has it's bad sides too.
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I am very pleased with Valve, because they don't rely on DLC as a money income but release free content for their games, plus their games are usually fair priced (ex: Orange box for the price of 1 AAA title, containing HL2,EP1,EP2,CSS,TF2,Portal)
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i literally facepalmed at this... their 'free' left 4 dead dlc became a full priced sequel, they charge 'tickets' for their official tf2 mvm servers... and dont they have some kind of purchase requirement for some maps on cs go? (i dont play csgo but im sure theres something like that for playing custom maps on official servers? if not, forgive the mistake.) also hats, crate keys, weapons, items... "DLC", in form of micro-transactions for ingame items, IS ONE OF THE LARGEST FACETS OF THEIR BUSINESS NOW!!! (and please dont quibble with me over whether or not micro-transactions for in-game items and access to functions constitutes dlc, because in a broad scope, it definately does... its paid access to content for games)
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I think some of you should get updated on how business works. Can you play Valve games legally outside Steam ? No ? You get the point... Uplay just sells the Origin key for BF4, nothing else. Many stores will sell that key but Valve is not a key reseller so no BF4 on Steam.
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Ubisoft is actually pretty assholeish regarding steam. Ubisoft lets steam take care of bandwith and updates, but still forced people to get uplay even though it doesn't even update your games.
Regarding what you said with EA and valve.
People are happy with having max 1 program for their games, why would Valve want to loose their monopole by supporting others.
EA on the other hand holds no monopole, they can't just build one up from scratch by pissing people off like this.
But then again, EA support is awesome as fuck.
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damn thats dumb. dumb as hell. valve profits from selling games through its system, ubisoft doesnt 'let them' take care of it, valve WANTS the god damn opportunity to sell the game! also uplay is drm, and almost ALL games have it these days.. its like bitching you 'have' to have steam (the funcionality of which is drm among other things) when you buy a game that is steamworks from a store (you know... if you're one of the two or three people on the planet who still buys from stores :D)
also lovin' your double standards there.. its ok for valve not wanting to lose their monopoly, but anyone who tries to COMPETE with valve, is a dick for doing so. awesome.
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+1 ^^ Also, Valve started to require steam for their games ten years ago when steam was a piece of shit (some may say it still is :D) and Valve a small company. They smelled, like EA with BF3, that fans could endure a slow death just for HL² and CS1.6, it was perfect to convert many people to that newborn cult.
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Intredasting. The DLC for every GFWL game on Steam can (could, they just shut down GFWL store last week) be bought outside Steam too afaik...
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EA try to buy Valve for $1 billion so they don't sell EA stuff anymore
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=OyZaxq-uh1I
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I view Origin and Uplay as two companies looking at Steam and wanting a piece of that 'gamers who love DRM' pie, only EA and Ubisoft suck at unobtrusive DRM.
Everybody wants to be Valve. Everybody wants their own Steam.
With EA doing this, I get a fun mental image of EA refusing to go to Valve's parties, convincing the other kids at school that they 'didn't want to go to Valve's stupid party anyway,' spending their weekends at a friend's house and talking about Valve all day to their disinterested friend Ubisoft.
Or maybe EA is the girlfriend who feels threatened by all these companies paying attention to their BF Valve, dumps Valve before Valve can dump EA, complains to their girlfriend Ubisoft, all while Valve doesn't know what's going on because he's too busy filling the bank account to notice the greedy girlfriend took off. Hopefully EA will get a nice haircut and mani-pedi before it shows its face in DRM-town again.
Also, compare Steam to World of Warcraft. Steam is already the big name in the market, sucking up 90% of the market share. You can't make a Steam-killer. Only Steam can kill Steam. Perhaps no one is leaving Steam for Origin or Uplay because all our friends (and our games) are on Steam.
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http://shop.ubi.com/store/ubiemea/de_DE/search/ThemeID.8605700/size.205/startIndex.0/plat.pcdownload
No idea of this is only the case in the German store, so have a German!
Anyone else think this is extremely assholeish of EA to not distribute it on Steam, but distribute it on Ubisofts store?
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