thankjs
i think we need different topic for key expiry bz i have lost a bunch now.
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Yea, noticed these comments in the april choice thread. They keep sinking lower. I'm staying away from buying their bundles from now on. Will only grab singular games from their bundles through other means. Sadly that means no leftovers for giveaways. Won't buy on their store either anymore. As liitle money from my pockets to theirs as possible.
Crazy to think how great Humble once was.
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That's completely eff'ed up. Really. It feels like scamming to me. Who watches their redemption deadlines all the time? That's borderline stealing from people. I agree with milk above ^^ Not gonna support their store in any way anymore.
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Also, I don't think it's legal. Especially in the EU, I can't be sure about other jurisdictions.
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They probably don‘t care about jurisdiction outside of the US. And if you only mention something about them violating US laws when contacting support they immediately threaten to close your account. At least this was the case about two years ago.
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The solution is to contact consumer protection, without telling Humble. Easy enough.
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contact the police than or someting that they break the law
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pretty sure its illegal in USA to.
we would have had an agreement to reveal games based on a specified date at time of purchase, any other alteration is something you did not agree to.
might need to see if some law firm wants to do some digging for a potential class action suit, probably not enough damages yet for a law firm to be interested.
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You are right, it violates principles against unilateral detrimental changes to existing agreements, which both parties agreed upon during purchase.
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That's not "borderline" stealing. It's stealing plain and simple. And it's illegal at least in Europe, most likely in other countries too
They have already trampled upon EU customer protection laws at the very least many times so why not once more?
A seller cannot unilaterally modify a contract or the terms of a sale after the sale. But they take their chances and they are reselling keys.
By the way the keys they disable the reveal button for are valid after the supposed deadline. That in and of itself is also stealing.
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Keys even if it says "expire" it won't because for that the publisher must do it contacting Steam and I think it's something a bit messy to do, and they already got paid for that number of keys they send to Humble after an agreement most likely, so they won turn unusuable. . This is Humble just hidding the key because they are greedy.
I hope EU customer protection fucks them because they deserve it.
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Well I have filed a complaint with the EU customer protection agency and if they receive others, they might look into it.
Steam has already been sued for their terms and conditions and to be honest they were nothing compared to what Humble is doing
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I might do the same then. Wish then they do something!
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they already got paid for that number of keys they send to Humble after an agreement
most likely, so they won turn unusuable
Humble just hidding the key because they are greedy.
Isn't it also possible that Humble started buying keys w/ expiration dates in exchange for a higher bulk discount?
That wouldn't explain shortening the expiration date though - that MUST be greed
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And im still waiting for mg lamplighters league key to get restocked... guess it means im not getting them anymore...
Edit: just realized they have been stealthily changed to epic keys... sigh
What a rip off
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i've had success getting humble wallet money when they changed a key from steam to epic/gog
not the same thing, but i got $3 for 1 key from a humble choice they changed
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is this $3 the wallet thingy humble has? and does it mean you can't claim the key? i still want to claim the key since it is one of the reasons why i bought that bundle, i am just disappointed since they just changed the keys (when i wanted to activate it before 1 year has passed, the key ran out). might do it to another key that was also run out of stock at the moment, though.
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yeah, it's basically store credit
I was still able to redeem the epic/gog version of the key, but it was essentially them admitting "we will never restock this steam key, here's $3 to shut up about it"
so yeah, kinda sucks if you actually want the game, but if it's a game you were planning on giving away, it sorta makes up for it
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Thank you, ill give it a try. Hopefully ill get that cashback and can find something with that money later :)
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yeah, there's a bunch of games out of stock like that, so i'm trying to slowly build up my wallet to buy something lol
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that sounds cool I should try that in cases where they change it to epic and I already own something there
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i wouldn't buy a bundle if it were anything but steam keys. changing the platform is likely not legal either just like the changing of the key validity date after purchase. both are changes to the sale after the fact unilaterally
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As for me it depends on the game whether i really want it or not but seeing that i havent touched my games in other platforms yet i would prefer to get it as steam keys nowadays
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changing from steam>epic is def theft too, you paid for a steam key
they did that to me for Fashion Police too
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Ugh they really like to scam people with the non guaranteed keys. Hopefully they will be able to compensate you for it too.
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I got an email from them mentioning the change of date but it was very last minute and when I tried to redeem them I was told they were out of stock - so I will def be pursuing that
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I dont even get an email when they change it to epic... i think i only got a key is back in stock but im not even sure which key was restocked...
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I went back to a lot of older bundles because of this and at least half of the keys I requested are "out of stock." This feels like fraud.
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So HB is now just for immediate use. If you area early enough for them to have keys for you...
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Sometimes early enough is too early. They are also notorious for stocking their preorders late.
So one must use clairvoyance to hit the tight slot between when your key finally appears in your account, and before it expires.
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Oof, that's awful. Thanks for the heads up. It's hard to believe how many bad (and questionably legal) practices Humble has been doing lately.
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That's 100% not legal. I know it's not legal in EU because I have checked out these customer protection laws but I'm certain there are equivalent laws in other countries that prevent at the very least a seller from changing the terms of a sale after the sale has concluded.
If anyone could just change what they are selling to you and in what conditions after you paid for it, it'd be the Wild West
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Wow and without any warning. Very sneaky behavior.
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fumble bumble doing more illegal shit
got rid of all my keys cause the shady shit they be doing
https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/ZA1Ji/the-i-no-longer-trust-humble-bundle-train-351-carts-so-far-choo-choo-bitches-train-closed
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I guess it's time to contact consumer protection about this company. Absolute No-Go.
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They can kiss my ass with their changed redemtion date after the purchase.
If it hits me they will have contact from the EU consumer protection and if needed i hire a lawyer and show them where they can stick their changes if they happen after a purchase.
Because it is clearly against EU laws and each toddler know it.
It starts to change the friendly Masafor to the not so friendly one, in the case of this company.
They really get worse with each day. Sad to see.
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You won't though - a lawyer would cost way to much if then would even take on a case like this
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It give specialized lawyers for media stuff. A few very known and good ones in germany too.
Yes a lawyer would cost money, that is the reason why i would go first with the EU consumer protection that should handle the situation without expenses.
But if needed i pay a lawyer and create a first case for HB that all after me can take as reference, which means HB would lose all cases afterwards too, at least in the EU, because the customers could come up with the first case.
I am sure HB don't want to risk this, and don't enforce their bullshit, but if needed it's the way i would go.
As each one very well know, i hate cheaters and exploiting/abuse, and HB clearly do this with their law breaks.
Ps.: I ended my HB choice last december, because all their shady stuff. So they lose more and more earnings from me. I think from other ones too. So it is in general a dumb idea to handle their customers the way they do since 2(?) years.
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If they keep eroding away the trust of their customers eventually they'll run out of customers. I personally haven't bought from them for maybe a year at this point and with how dire the prospect of them randomly screwing me over a purchase is I don't think I'll ever buy from them again, we all knew that things were going to go downhill after they got bought but this is way too scummy.
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And they don't even send out an email for this? Very scummy behaviour.
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Nope. I noticed warning for one of the keys changing expiry date on another forum. I started scrolling my keys and noticed another one with changed expiry date.
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Not only that, whilst doing some housekeeping yesterday I came across a couple keys that now had expiry dates.
They really need to be sending emails when this happens. I'm not even sure if they send a courtesy reminder for when keys are close to expiring (something that Digiphile does).
Thanks for the heads up!
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How far did you go, and what did you come across? I'm curious whether I should look into older stuff, from before expiry dates.
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Purely by luck I came across Endling - Extinction is Forever from the Exceptional Indie Allies Bundle. I happened to want to know which bundle I got that game from.
Didn't go back too far, but I'll probably have to at some point to make sure there aren't any other surprises.
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They did earlier, but they don't do it now. At least I don't get any emails like that.
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Now It becomes very easy, only buy bundles where you miss all the games (if only for yourself) or otherwise make use of them right away.
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Btw., is there any addon or way to retrieve / scrape all my own redemption deadlines? I have too many keys left and i gotta make a lot of GAs lol. Fuck lazyness and depression, argh. Probably already wasted some keys :S
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if Humble wanted to be convenient they'd create a way to arrange our libraries by expiration date so we can focus on gifting/trading keys soon to expire
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I expect Humble IGN to keep getting worse as they extract more money for the shareholders.
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I made a greasyfork script that scans your keys page and exports the platform, title, bundle, and expiration date in csv format. (It does not extract actual keys and should ignore if keys are revealed or not)
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Thanks a lot!
It doesnt seem to scrape the choice ones (probably as they are on a seperate page).
I do wish tho we could have a page to paste our scripts data to make a community summary of all the bundles and expirations :)
I myself with your script have a whole chunk of data (most probably already known but still)
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Very helpful, thank you for your contribution :)
Now, if anyone wants to scroll through 3735 lines of keys, hit me up :D
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Wish I discovered this a bit earlier, just manually went through all my games that didn't have expiration dates >_<
Thanks!
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I either redeem or gift all my Humble keys when I get them, so this change completely misses me.
I am interested to see if the presumed illegality everybody cites will clash with everyone's tacit agreement to accept DRM and a lack of actual ownership for all the games those keys can be redeemed for. The line between actually owning the keys you buy and not actually owning the games they are redeemed for seems like a pretty big grey area.
I'm all for change that eliminates DRM though.
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Why would it be relevant if you really own the games you have on Steam, if the topic is another company swindling by retroactively changing some very relevant details without even notifying their customers?
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I feel like I said why. The thing you receive from those licenses isn't truly owned by you. One could infer that the same would be considered true of the keys which provide those license leases. I understand you're upset about the retroactive redemption date change, but as I said above, I am more interested in how this might interact with the systemic issues in the industry as a whole. Given as how it's a small part of a larger issue, which is that you're only ever leasing the things you "buy". Other than from GOG.
It's not a stretch to think that a company selling licenses might argue that DRM exceptions apply to them as well. But also, it's not a stretch to think that someone fighting DRM could use the limited time key purchases as an example of the extended reach of DRM as part of why DRM should be outlawed.
If you really chew on it, you're buying a temporary key for a temporary game license (unless you're buying a GOG key of course). It feels like that entire process is flawed.
In truth, I doubt anybody is going to take on the mantle of actually pursuing the temporary key purchases as a legal matter with all the costs that would incur, be it a person or a governmental agency, and irrespective of retroactive changes to the redemption dates as long as the company is giving you a reasonable period of time to redeem said keys (and reasonable is definitely subjective); but I can see how a person or entity would do so as part of a bigger lawsuit regarding the shady practices that envelop the industry in general. I could be wrong of course.
Btw, according to Arben's notes below, they actually extended the redemption period for a couple games s/he purchased. Bright Memory Infinite and Cat Quest 3. That seems weird. Have you looked at yours?
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I still don't get why you hang on the "philosophical" debate if licensed games are truly owned. It's irrelevant.
What customers buy without the slightest doubt, is a license. And just like for anything you purchase, it's illegal to retroactively change elementary basics that enable you access to your property. Even if this "property" is just a flawed license itself and not an actual game ownership.
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What I said is it has no specific impact on me personally, and I'm more interested in the bigger picture. That doesn't dismiss how you feel. You're justified in feeling however you feel. But how you feel doesn't mean I'm wrong, either.
I really don't see how this is vague or mysterious. It's not a debate. I simply stated that I'm interested in seeing how the symptom is applied to the larger issue it's a symptom of.
Did you happen to check and see if some of your licenses were extended, as per Arben's comment?
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Yeah, I guess I misinterpreted the meaning of your original post anyway. Sorry, currently got my head full with a lot of very unnecessary nuisances. With Humble being the cherry on the top. ;)
I didn't check if any redemption deadlines were extended. More time to activate isn't nearly as critical as less time.
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Changes I've noticed on my account compared to my notes:
Jan 2026 monthly:
- Etrian Odyssey 2 is now July 6 2026 instead of February 3 2027
- Metal Slug Tactics is now August 3 2026 instead of February 3 2027
- Nice Day for Fishing is now August 3 2026 instead of February 3 2027
- Settlement Survival is now August 3 2026 instead of February 3 2027
Award Nomination Bundle
- Bright Memory Infinite is now April 20 2027 instead of Dec 31 2026
Wholesome Snack 2025
- Shashingo: Learn Japanese with Photography is now June 30 2026 instead of December 30 2026
- Snufkin: Melody of Moominvalley is now June 30 2026 instead of December 30 2026
August 2025 monthly:
- Persona 5 Royal is now May 27 2026 instead of September 2 2026
- Tiny Terry's Turbo Trip is now March 2 2026 instead of September 2 2026
July 2025 monthly:
- Cat Quest 3 is now September 2 2026 instead of July 1 2026
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I think some of these were already earlier than the rest of the bundle; they didn't change.
January 2026 Humble Choice - Etrian Odyssey II HD changed; the rest did not
https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/9Ddsv/humble-bundle-january-2026-choice-74
Wholesome Snack 2025
https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/qFAp6/humble-bundle-wholesome-snack-2025-showcase-bundle#lThEdzJ
August 2025 Humble Choice - Persona 5 Royal changed; Tiny Terry's Turbo Trip did not
https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/gt7nF/humble-bundle-august-2025-choice-69
July 2025 Humble Choice
https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/cbX7G/humble-bundle-july-2025-choice-68
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Cat Quest 3 seems fine since they're moving the expiration date later, but it should never be earlier like these other ones going from Feb'27 to Aug'26
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Thanks. Learning that a key that I marked as expiring in late 2026 is now going to expire in 4 days is quite concerning though (Etrian Odyssey in Humble November 2025 went from an expiry date of December 2 2026 to May 4 2026 which is 4 days left, without any notice). I only know because of your post here so that means many people don't even know.
How am I suppose to even keep track of this if they can theoretical just make a key expirable the next day on a random day without any notice. Digiphile keys have expiration, but they are giving me email warning and the expire dates are very clearly based on your date of purchase. They are generally shorter than Humble expire dates but at least I can rely on them.
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Have they said anywhere they won't move the expiration date to day before bundle launch? This whole process just screams of them caring even less about you when they have your money already.
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Bump, only one word for this - SCAM
Even if you rent a book from library, they won't come week early to take it away from you.
Or when you buy milk, they don't come halfway the expiration date saying it's gonna expire tomorrow instead.
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IGN sucks.
I cancelled my Monthly last year and I'm (slowly due to to poor bundles) running down my remaining months.
The store has seldom if ever had any decent deals and their bundles are not value for money anymore.
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HB suddenly changed the key expiry for some games:
November 2025 Humble Choice, Total War Warhammer III now expires on May 4, 2026 at 10:00:00 AM PDT (previously December 2nd 2026).
August 2025 Humble Choice, Persona 5 Royal now expires on May 27th, 2026 by 10:00 AM Pacific Time (previously September 2nd, 2026).
Edit:
Unparalleled Puzzlers Bundle (2023). Creaks: December 3, 2026 at 12:00:00 AM PST.
2K Megahits. Army Men RTS - April 24, 2027 at 12:00:00 AM PDT
2K Megahits. CivCity: Rome - April 24, 2027 at 12:00:00 AM PDT
2K Megahits. Railroad Tycoon 3 - April 24, 2027 at 12:00:00 AM PDT
2K Megahits. Railroad Tycoon II Platinum - April 24, 2027 at 12:00:00 AM PDT
Choose Wisely Bundle. Beyond: Two Souls - December 13, 2026 at 12:00:00 AM PST
Survive or Die Bundle. Breathedge - October 15, 2026 at 6:00:00 PM PDT
Adrenaline Rush Bundle. Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes - April 3, 2027 at 6:00:00 PM PDT
Seven Deadly Sims Bundle. Bridge Constructor Portal - December 10, 2026 at 12:00:00 AM PST
Seven Deadly Sims Bundle. theHunter: Call of the Wild - March 6, 2027 at 11:00:00 AM PST
2K's Game Together Bundle (2020). Borderlands Game of the Year Enhanced - December 10, 2026 at 12:00:00 AM PST
Just Drive Bundle. WRC 7 FIA World Rally Championship - February 18, 2027 at 6:00:00 PM PST
Very Positive Bundle 3 (2019). DISTRAINT 2 - April 15, 2027 at 6:00:00 PM PDT
WB Games Classics Bundle (2018). Injustice Gods Among Us Ultimate Edition - June 18, 2026 at 9:00:00 AM PDT
WB Games Classics Bundle (2018). Mad Max - June 18, 2026 at 9:00:00 AM PDT
Strategy Simulator Bundle (2017). SimplePlanes - April 10, 2027 at 6:00:00 PM PDT
Endless RPG Lands Bundle. Borderlands 2 - December 10, 2026 at 12:00:00 AM PST
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