there should be something to prevent user from creating giveaway for game they won inside last 7 days
They would wait 8 days and regift it.
Also it already happened to me twice to create a giveaway for a game I had won less than a week ago
So it would probably annoy legit giveaway creators more than regifters.
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I love regifters.... many games that have been gived away in heaps are most of the time pretty nice like: Faerie Solitaire and Overture
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Once he marks as received we gonna blacklist him,
btw he makes sure they key works by marking as received when he regifts succesfully, lol.
EDIT: Blacklisted that guy, since now we can see his name.
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I agree to the point that the system as it is now is really bad regarding regifters. I've reported so many of them, almost all my tickets are still untouched and those people still continue to use this site unharmed. There should be something done about this.
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I hear you, it seems that if a person get caught in the forums support will suspend him quickly but when it comes to reporting people quietly it can last a year and they are still not punished.
Every time I find a re-gifter or another culprit I'm wondering if it's worth the time to make the ticket.
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What's even the point of regifting 3/4 of the games you win?
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If everyone would only enter for games they really liked, there would be no point. But since people are complete jerks, they just might enter giveaways for any random game with comparatively good odds or high value and regfit it for CV/levels.
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What I wanna say is that even if you get higher CV/Levels and you keep regifting 3/4 of your won games, there is no point in gaining levels and having better chances to win. Well I just can't understand the logic :)
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you get points very fast , compared to SG1 times....even if you are down to 0 points, sometimes a few hours later you are back to 300.
So maybe those people enter randomly, script-forced?, any giveaway with short runtime and low-entries. The games the like, they keep, the others the use as "fuel" for their own giveaways.....at least thats the own logic that i would assume here.
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We really can't know how they think unless someone of them tells us. Before gifting (which doesn't happen that often I got to admit)
I always check if people activated at least they last like 20 won games so that I won't end up giving the game to such a person
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as mentioned they would just wait 8 days....i reported a guy that had 6 or 7 games not activated, regifted them and even traded two of them....he got a suspension of 4 or 5 weeks, i'm curious what his behavior would be after the suspension....
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The penalty for regifting is too light. It should be a permanent ban on the first offense.
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I'd say the second offense. I could see someone being ignorant enough not to read the FAQ and think that the won key is there's to do with as they please (even though its obviously not). I'd say first offense, 7-day suspension. Second offense, we cut off their hands.
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Completely fair, Sisyphus described exactly what happened to me and I realize my mistake.
Unfortunately ignorance isn't an excuse, at least I have the chance to make up for it though!
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i would say first offense 1 month suspension but thats just me ;p
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There should be a public Hall of Shame with the list of the top regifters and rule breakers.
Seriously if someone is re-gifting the key they have won, Steamgifts website should be able to catch them automatically if the key is provided through Steamgifts website itself. In other words the system would automatically know that if the same key has been used twice, the person who re-gifted it would automatically appear in the top list of regifters and rule breakers in the Hall of Shame.
Building blacklists would never be easier. ;)
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I was wondering about this too...at least for most games, people enter keys. Ergo, it can be stored in the SG database. Ergo, if that key is re-entered by a re-gifter, it can be immediate flagged and support can be auto-notified to investigate.
What am I missing?
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I really dont understand why people do that tbh .
Like ... why are you entering Giveaways if you dont actually want to win the game ?
Its pretty ridiculous .
I understand people entering in the Many Copies ones ... cus chance is higher , and i guess everyone likes to win stuff ...
But fuck sake , stop entering for stuff just to Re-gift it after... or for the sake of Hoarding ...
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There should be a system that checks if the winner activated the game after 7 days and after marking it as received. That would make things so much easier!
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That won't work though, as certain games don't show up as owned to the system. This would require you to manually add all those games as exceptions, and before the games would get noticed some people would get wrongfully banned (quote a few if it's not noticed until the game gets bundled).
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A system like that would be great, but not for banning the people. Just use something like this to tag them and send a warning and then support would intervene.
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When I first came to this site, I was completely unaware of the rules. Every now and then I would enter giveaways for games I didn't want just because they had a low number of entries. If I won them, I was likely to regift them. As I said, I was completely unaware of the rules.
It took a long time, but eventually I was banned for almost a month. From the moment I got back, I made sure to read the rules (I know that ignorance is no excuse) and have not regifted since. I've given away lots of games and my current give/win ratio is almost equal.
While mine may not be the typical story, I'd like to hope that most people either don't know it's against the rules, or like the site/community enough that the threat of a permaban would set them straight. The only big change that should be made is a more expedited way for the ban hammer to come down. Anything else is likely to affect actual contributing members of the community.
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In my opinion, waiting 7 days would not help, it would only hurt those people who would want to give away a copy of a game they won recently. These situations exist ... like they got one copy from a friend just when they also won it. The only foolproof way would be if steamgifts kept track of keys and thus preventiing a regift, but that would be overkill. And would also mean that people couldn't create giveaways via gift option any more because it would circumvent it.
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I think the website has an auto scan to find not-active-game users. I was banned once before for one game that was not activated (and i don't think any guys report me since all other gifts are activated).
PS: The game that i didn't activate is region lock, i was so dumb to mark it as received. Well i pay the price, the game i won in the ban time get rerolled lol
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no there is not autoscan, if there would be any....we would have many many many more bans, most likely the giveaway-creator reported you...or someone else,btw it took me 10 seconds to see what game it was...don´t expect it is hard work of research nowadays
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Auto scan would be ideal to prevent regifting but it isn't gonna happen because there are few games that don't show up in your profile.
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I had a dude not even try and regift, instead he posted it for sale on the Steam forums! Sadly he didn't get permabanned for it.
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It would be nice to force giveaway winners to sync their account after a win, and have a the program to check if the win is in their account now before allowing them to do anything else. Not sure if doable and this system would probably come with some flaws...
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I guess you can share the key on the forum when they do that. It ends up biting them in the ass when they send a used key to the winner.
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You should remove this comment because it would be considered calling out. Just report them and move on.
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Think there should be something to prevent user from creating giveaway for game they won inside last 7 days or notice that no regifting or something.
Came across winner of my giveaway Nightsky and as I had bunch of giveaways and already entered key/url just clicked to send. Later when checked winner had created giveaway for same game he had just won from me and not marked as received. Time showed he had been online here and insteam and could have activated it. Then looked he's previous giveaways and wins and his steam games and what do I find? At least 3/4 of his wins are not on his game list, but he has created giveaways with those games which were received. Seriously hope there is something that can be done to make it more difficult for regifters.
Some sort of check for game you have won, marked received but not have in your steamgames and created giveaway with same game.(for some games it would be harder as their ids are different).
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