Did you think you can get it cheaper anywhere else??
Indeed it's not, they sell the BOXED COPIES of games and i've purchased a lot of things from their site including the whole COD titles. I would buy up these two but I don't have the money at the moment.
This is a trustable site, not a Greymarket site
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Well, suits yourself, as i've personally purchased products from these sites and it's been a year and still the products are in my library. Sometimes it's worth taking the risks, like the VOIDU site, when sold METAL GEAR SOLID V DEFINITIVE EDITION for 8.85 USD, they're too NON-AUTHORIZED resellers but the stock emptied within 12 hrs, and they sold almost 100000 keys within the time-frame, so yeah you should start trusting other sites too as they're giving hell competition to stores like HUMBLEBUNDLE and G2A and even the STEAM STORE..
CDKEYS DOT COM is a legit reseller.. if you think that they're not authorized well you can check the BETHESDA website again,
AND FYI, STEAM is the ONLY AUTHORISED SELLER for BETHESDA GAMES including the titles mentioned here.
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What about BETHESDA, i guess the games mentioned here aren't developed by either of the ubi or sega
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Bethesda/Zenimax does not even have an official list. It would take effort, therefore money to do it.
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Well, if they're listing steam on their website, i think they're AUTHORIZED seller
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They are listing Steam because it is the default and official file distributor. Although they do host some games on GOG as well. I think they do not have any installers given to Humble, WinGameStore, or GamersGate though, the other known legit stores that carry DRM-free/unique installer distros.
You can find the same thing with Activision, they also host their stuff on Steam—although they are now trying to move everything to battle.net (and Zenimax is obviously experimenting with turning Bethesda.net into their own distribution service, cutting out Valve).
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There is kinda: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/171736/deactivation-of-fraudulently-obtained-esotu-game-keys
last updated in 2015 tho.
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I rather give those reseller site my money then Sega or Uplay.
Wait I usually do this damn and I never had any problem for 2 years :))).
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Voidu is authorized seller.
If you want to buy from the gray market, that's up to you. I was just warning everyone that these deals are from non-authorized sellers.
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If you don't believe me, go to the bethesda website, then select the game, and then select the DIGITAL version and you'll find that the AUTHORIZED seller is steam. not anyone other, not even HUMBLEBUNDLE
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No. It does not. Not on any game, on any part of the page. It says: "You must activate this product via the Internet by signing into or registering for a free Steam account and accepting the Steam Subscriber Agreement." This means that the game is distributed on Steam, they host the files.
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You have no idea what any of this means do you?
Steam isn't a seller, it's a DRM/Store, and it's the only platfrom where Fallout 4 is available on PC, which is to say the game files are hosted on their servers for download.. When buying from Steam you're buying directly from the publisher, with Valve getting a cut. The Bethesda site listing Steam doesn't mean that it's the only authorized seller for their products. You can buy the game legally from sites like Humble or GMG, but the game will always have to be activated via Steam since, again, it's where the files are and it's the DRM the company chose.
CDkeys is a greymarket since it isn't authorized to sell the game by the publisher. That doesn't mean their keys don't work or that they'll get revoked, as with any site of the type, but you can't be sure of the providence of the keys and therefore you might have some trouble with the odd key or less customer support if anything happens. G2A is also a greymarket site, since it's just hosting third-party sellers and it's quite a bit riskier than CDkeys.
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Can you please tell me where it's written on the BETHESDA website that HUMBLEBUNDLE or GMG are LEGALLY entitled to sell bethesda games, i guess there ain't one. and cdkeys is a legit site, same as humblebundle.
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As far as I'm aware Bethesda don't have such a list shown anywhere, it's not like they must have it. However a while ago Zenimax (even though it's not Bethesda directly Zenimax still owns Bethesda) wrote a warning for buying keys for ESO.
Also the reason to avoid greymarkets like this isn't only because you might get a key that doesn't work or something, but because that key might be stolen even if it doesn't get revoked and so the devs are losing money.
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I you know what you are doying like me for example you can buy trisk free I think I bought 20 AAA games fro such sites and no stolen key.
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HB gets their games directly from the publishers. Just like GMG, Gamersgate and others. CDKeys is a reseller (or re-re-seller). They buy cheap retail versions and cheap keys from local sites in cheap countries and resell them to you (thereby acting directly against the publishers' will). That is the main difference. They are not legit in the same way as Humble Bundle. They are not the same. They are grey market. There's really no discussion about this.
That doesn't mean their keys don't work. You seem to think you can validate your point by argueing that you didn't have any problems so far. Of course you didn't. No company - legit or not - would be in business anymore if their keys didn't work. They probably have a success rate of 99% or more. All that doesn't mean they are legit. It doesn't mean they are authorized / ackknowledged by the publishers as valid reseller.
I personally use Kinguin on occasion. I rarely ever invest any "real" money there, but I sell some of my leftover bundle games and buy other games for that money. Never had a bad key. They all worked. But I am aware what the site is. I am aware that it's not the same as HB. And I am aware that a non-working key could happen at any time.
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So after a little checkup on CDKeys, I can't seem to find an option to sell keys like in Kinguin so while they are a grey-market site I'm guessing they have contacts and people they trust who provide the keys from the cheaper regions. I would say the chance of getting a faulty key from there might actually be lower than other places.
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I didn't say they are the same. Kinguin is a market place, CDKeys is not. CDKeys sells on Kinguin, actually. You might be right in general. If you exclude community sales and only buy from well rated traders on Kinguin, your chances are probably about the same. I just wanted to say I use grey market sites as well, and as long as you're aware of that that's not necessarily a problem.
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Yeah, even i tried and filed an application for selling on thier website and i got rejected immediately as they said
"Resellers, please sell elsewhere, this is not the place you should look for"
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No, you actually give them your money. Even if you buy on CDKeys.
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CDKeys still buys their keys from somewhere, just from cheaper regions and then resells that key for a little more money so they still get some money just not as high as they normally would from someone buying from your regular region.
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Well technically let's take my case.
It was a retailer version of a key.
So they bought the key with a price some part of the money got to the publisher from transaction or maybe not don't care.
But my money didn't directly got to Zenimax so in a way I didn't give any cent to Zenimax and I am quite proud of that.
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Well when you put it that way it's technically true even when you buy it from any store since "your" money nearly never gets directly to Zenimax unless buying directly from them.
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It is enough for me.
As you can see I don't like Zenimax at all.
Well my top 2 worst gaming publisher are this:
- EA / Activision;
- Zenimax / Take Two.
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EA and Activision are not even the same thing. They have no relationship of any kind. Same goes for Zenimax and Take Two. Your "top 2 list" is really four different companies.
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:)).
/ represent OR :D.
So I can't decide witch of those 4 publishers has nr 1 and 2 :P that was the POINT :V.
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Well someone definitely paid them to obtain a key if it's a RETAIL BOX version
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Sure. No matter where you buy their games, you give them money. Obviously. If you buy a copy that someone bought in a retail shop, that guy will go and buy another one then. It's really not that different from buying their games on Steam sale or on GMG with a heavy discount.
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Nop not really, if for example you pre-ordered F4 and then bought the season pas you gave them 60Eur + 50 Eur =110 EUR to steam now steam gets 30% aka 33EUR .
As a conclusion Zenimax get 110 - 33 EUR = 77EUR pure revenue.
I bought F4 Goty with 15 EUR with a discount so I gave max 15EUR to Zenimax and in reality nothing because my transaction wasn't with Zenimax :D.
Now for TW3 I payed 40 Eur throw steam and will pay another 15 throw GOG just to thank CD project :D.
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Nop not really, if for example you pre-ordered F4 and then bought the season pas you gave them 60Eur + 50 Eur =110 EUR to steam now steam gets 30% aka 33EUR .
You want to compare a currently discounted version of a 2.5 year old game with the pre-order price? that is not a fair comparison. check prices of new AAA games and pre-orders on key stores. You will see that you usually get a discount of 15-30%.
One example would be Far Cry 5. I see the Gold Edition for 66.5€ on Kinguin, instead of 89.99€ on Steam/UPlay.
Or let's look at pre-orders (since you compared the FO4 pre-order price).
Vampyr: 34.99€ instead of 49.99€
Crash Bandicoot N.Sane Trilogy: 30.98€ instead of 39.99€
World of Warcraf: Battle for Azeroth: 36.99€ instead of 44.99€
That is what you save with key stores. Yes, you definitely save some money. I don't object to that. But you can also be quite sure that the sellers on these sites do not have a large profit margin like Steam does. What does that all mean? It means that quite a bit of money goes to the publisher, even if you buy on key store sites like CDKeys. It may not be as much as if you buy directly on Steam or on their own sites. But it certainly is way more than you imply with your comparison of such an old game.
I bought F4 Goty with 15 EUR with a discount so I gave max 15EUR to Zenimax and in reality nothing because my transaction wasn't with Zenimax :D.
Your transaction is also not with Zenimax if you buy on Steam, UPlay, Origin, GMG, Gamersgate, Humble Bundle, Fanatical or in your local store. You never deal with Zenimax directly.
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I agree with what are you saying and that was my point the max price of that crap game of a hollow RPG cough FPS was 110 EUR FFS that is just retarded I wanted to pay max 15 EUR for it that is all and I did.
My Library
Also I don' like to support Zenimax at all so I never pay from Stores that they have contract with :P.
The same for all COD shits and GTA V shit online, with EA I don't even bother because ORGIN is shit .
Now we also have M$ that is the grand father or stupidity and his Window 10 crap, by the way I was a pre beta tester for that CRAP and will only install it in dual boot this year when my extended warranty will expire :D
The only games that I payed almost full price was TW3 40 EUR and 33 EUR for ELEX :D.
And for those games will buy them again on GOG just because I can and skip all the EA shit in ORIGIN and Ubi crap on UPlay :))).
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Also I did that "unfair" comparison per say to emphasize of the stupid price of a AAA game that is 5 years old called GTA V. They sold it for 60 EUR after 3 years and the best price that you can get now is still ~30 EUR or 20 EUR on reselers aka 50% because it has online.
But Take Two sir I don't give a rats ass about your crap online GTA was a pure SP not so long ago so spare me with this crap because I don'care, give me the SP of a 5 years old game with a fare prince and keep your crap online for Kids :P.
PS : Zenimax and Take Two BUZZ OFF on our mods that we make and use and steak to your crap ONLINE that no one wants, well kids buy that but they would buy anything so :(.
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Why would take two lower the price of their game while there is more than enough demand at that price? I also hate gta online but your point doesnt make sense at all.
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LOL nice logic there :)).
Well if you like their business model be my guest.
Also if the price for a 5 years old game should be still 60 EUR then also be my quest.
The fact that they mixed their SP game with multi so they can still be selling it full price after 5 years if enough for me yo puke and the fact that kiddies buy it is well not smart.
My point is the consumers point, and it makes sense because this is the market if Mad Max a AAA can be bought in a bundle with other games for 12$ after 10 months then surely after 5 years GTA V is not worth 60 EUR not even close FFS.
And Mad Max has 89% from users and the grand grand GTA V cough GTA online has 67% vs San Andres from 05 with recent still at 88% :D.
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First of all i dont like their model but thats how economies work. There is a huge difference between mad max and gta v. Gta even at 2018 is selling a shit ton of copies for 60 bucks while mad max has their sales dropped drastically. So mad max developers in order to get some extra revenue put their game in bundles. Why would take two do the same or lower gta's price while they are selling more than enough copies for 60 bucks. The demand is more than enough to keep the base price steady. Thats how economies work, as long as the demand is enough the price will stay the same no matter if the game is 100 years old.
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I understand economics pretty well I have master degree in E-Business by the way and bachelor's in CS.
For the perspective of the publisher it is the right move similar to denuvo, always online, Jonson Loot Boxes and so one.
But for the quality and customers point of view they are crap and I for example that have zero loyalty to any brand because I did marketing and I know how it worked and I managed a small company in my city until this month.
Even my hardware are not brand based but technical superiority and performance-price ratio.
TV 4k 43" - "400"Hz local EU brand but direct led technology and 5 years warranty and below 200 EUR thanks to a discount event :P.
AOC 1440p 32" 75 Hz VA panel 170 EUR, the best and cheapest 1440p at 75hz.
LG IPS 25" UW 2k below 200 EUR the cheapest 2k at that time and the best :D.
There is not Sony OLED 4k 4k+ EUR shit or Asus ROG 1440p bla bla :D.
Those may be better but not for those prices :))).
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I understand economics pretty well I have master degree in E-Business by the way and bachelor's in CS.
Then why do you answer with "LOL nice logic there", thereby implying TheFighter3647's logic was flawed or he said something wrong? This is how economics works. As long as there is demand they will charge accordingly. And this doesn't only have to do with the online part. Even as a pure singleplayer game it wouldn't end up in a bundle nearly as fast as mad max. They sold 10-20 times the copies of Mad Max. They are still selling copies. And not only for GTA Online. Many people buy it for the singleplayer only.
Even my hardware are not brand based but technical superiority and performance-price ratio.
That makes sense. And I applaud you for the nice prices you got. The only thing about this is, when you pass a certain threshold quality-wise, there simply is no cheap alternative. And there barely are any sales. I love ultrawide monitors. Try to get a 1440p 21:9 IPS GSync 100Hz monitor cheap anywhere. Won't work. ;) So if you want that kind of quality, you just have to buy expensive stuff. And that purchase then is also not brand-based, but tech-based. I personally am waiting for the new 21:9 monitors. They will have 200Hz and HDR. They will probably be around 1500€ (Asus, Acer and AOC will build those). And there will simply be no alternative.
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Well you see but I have:
- 32" AOC is 1440p 75Hz(Monitor Gaming LED AOC 31.5", QHD, DVI, HDMI, Display Port, FreeSync) not 21:9
- but my LG is 21:9 2k 75 Hz(Monitor Gaming LED IPS LG 25", UltraWide, UWHD 2K, 2 x HDMI, Flicker Safe) so I know my hardware :P.
Also 1440p 60 FPS is hard enough so 100FPS aka 100 Hz is redundant for me.
Take for example TW3 1080P on ultra has https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObhkfC2M_YY aka 100 FPS so imagine 1440p.
And this was with a 1070 Ti so for me 1440p above 60 is redundant, the price you pay for 1440p 144Hz is 400 EUR at discounted price the cheapest I saw + the many hundreds for 1070Ti is redundant at best so not an option.
Now if you really want wide then :
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-LC49HG90DMUXEN-Curved-Ultra-Monitor/dp/B073RJQXB1
Samsung LC49HG90DMUXEN 49" Curved 1ms Ultra Wide 144Hz Monitor - 32:9, Quantum Dot, Height Adjust, HDMI, Displayport
48.9 inch
VA
UHD (4K)
3840 x 1080
32:9
350 cd/mp
1 ms
178 / 178 grade
144 Hz
BUT 144 FPS on 4k :))))))))))))))))).
Now 200 HZ is utopical at best aka 200 FPS you saw you can't reach 100 on ultra in 1080P with 1070Ti so 200 :)) NOP.
Now HD ok what HDR this one HDR10+, not going to happen on that kind of panel aka 1440p or 2160p with a Hz of 100+ or even pure 60 so again redundant :D.
My TV has "400Hz" but we both know that this is upscale to havens :D, we barely have 144Hz on 2160p so 400 Hz pure on 4k :)))))) NOP.
So let's end this !
That Samsung has 4k , 144hz , 1ms , 49" , VA and 32:9 etc.
It has 4k so does my TV so no biggie.
144Hz I only have 75Hz at 1440p but it is more the enough for mois.
1ms don't care :D.
32:9 is better then my 21:9 but the support for 21:9 is horrible so imagine for 32: 9 :P.
Curved that was easy, I have 2 displays, I set them in an angle so it imitates the curve and has a reach of 150cm more then the 32:9 49" :P.
49" : well I have 3 displays : 43"+ 32"+ 25" = 100" so double the work space :D.
It is not HDR but no biggie :)).
The grand thing the price in my country the chipest is now : 1265 EUR
And I payed for the 3 displays: 160 Eur + 172 Eur + 190 EUR = 522 not even close :D.
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For GTA V, it is the only 5 years old game that is still 60 EUR on PC, that is not an excuse, if you sells 20X more copies you don't sell it with full price after 5 years that is greed not economics.
When they were asked why, they said that they bring new stuff aka in the online, but they sell shark cards so redundant.
It is a stupid circle. they bundled the online with that in mind.
The SP was not worth 60 EUR even on launch on PC it was already 2 years old so NOP.
Take as example TW3 Goty, more content, newer + 2 expansions, no online Thank god, 300h playtime for me, the most Goty awards in gaming for now, way better meta and user reviews, last content in 2016 released not 2013 :P.
And price one can be bought with 20 EUR on GOG DRM free or 15 reselers on Steam and the other aka GTA V with 20- 25 Eur from resells :))
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but my LG is 21:9 2k 75 Hz(Monitor Gaming LED IPS LG 25", UltraWide, UWHD 2K, 2 x HDMI, Flicker Safe) so I know my hardware :P.
I am surprised that there even are 25" ultrawide monitors. I thought smallest ones are 29". Honestly, I think the 29" ones are already way too small. Nothing below 34" for me. ^^
I bought mine like 3 or 4 years ago (LG 34"). There were maybe 3 UW monitors on the market. So it's not like you had any options. You just had to buy the ones available, and they were rather expensive. That is my point. You can save money, of course. But if you want certain tech (new or high-end), you will have to pay a premium for it, since there is hardly any cheap alternative.
Now 200 HZ is utopical at best aka 200 FPS you saw you can't reach 100 on ultra in 1080P with 1070Ti so 200 :)) NOP.
You're talking about one game there. There are many games that can easily get more than 100fps with good hardware. I have a GTX 1080, and I know I can get 144-200fps in many games. Also, I prefer high framerate over graphical fidelity. So I have no problem lowering a few settings to get to a better framerate. The difference between 100fps and 144fps is absolutely noticable and imho worth lowering a setting or two.
Now HD ok what HDR this one HDR10+, not going to happen on that kind of panel aka 1440p or 2160p with a Hz of 100+ or even pure 60 so again redundant :D.
Why do you think that? Because of transfer speed? That is wrong. TVs can achieve HDR10+ in 4k with HDMI 2.0, so why shouldn't we be able to get 1440p UW with HDR10+ in 100Hz or more with HDMI 2.1 or DisplayPort?
So let's end this ! That Samsung has 4k , 144hz , 1ms , 49" , VA and 32:9 etc. It has 4k so does my TV so no biggie. 144Hz I only have 75Hz at 1440p but it is more the enough for mois. 1ms don't care :D. ...
Uhm, I don't know why you suddenly compare the Samsung 32:9 monitor to your TV, as if I was "on the side" of the Samsung. I am not. I have no interest in 32:9. And no 32:9 is not "better" than 21:9. 21:9 is in my eyes the perfect aspect ratio. It is almost exactly movie format. So I can watch movies without letterboxing. It has great peripheral vision in games. It is great on the desktop. So, if you want to do a comparison, compare it to the monitor/panel I am waiting for:
35"
1440p
21:9
GSync
200Hz
Curved
HDR
That is what I want, and that is not something you can get cheap.It will probably be around 1500€ or more. If you want exactly this spec, you will have to pay the money. No way around it.
but the support for 21:9 is horrible
Nah, it isn't. Almost all major AAA titles support it flawlessly. You can get a problem with certain indie games, and definitely with asian games (as they are console devs and obviously don't know how to program for PC). But overall I'd say support is pretty good nowadays. Was worse 4 years ago, but now it's really rare that I play a game that doesn't properly support it.
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Nop the smallest was 25" and it is super ok, I already have it for 2 years.
Well I was talking about the game that I am playing now and where I want more then in any graphical fidelity and is a 2015 game by the way so :D.
Well I prefer more pixels aka sharpness to 144 FPS, I can play even at 25 FPS so no biggie for me :D.
The best difference is between 30 to 60 to 120, from 120 to 144 is not so noticeable :P.
The HDR10+ is too new :
We first heard about HDR10+ back in April 2017 when Samsung announced it was partnering with Amazon Prime Video to support the new format, but the format took a big step forward in August with the announcement that 20th Century Fox and Panasonic were joining forces with Samsung to develop the format.
2018's CES saw the format come to physical media with the announcement that it had been been accepted as part of the Ultra HD Blu-ray specification. Panasonic then followed that announcement up by saying its new 2018 players will support the format, but there isn't any word on which discs will be available.
Then, in early March 2018, Samsung took the stage at its annual TV unveiling to once again reaffirm its commitment to the standard by putting it into every one of its 2018 QLED TVs.
On the content side, you can already find around 100 movies and TV shows in HDR10+ on Amazon Video and Netflix has suggested that it might support the format in the future, although it currently has no firm plans to do so.
Even when HDR10+ picks up some steam, Dolby Vision still has the slight tech advantage with support for 12-bit color and up to 10,000 nits of brightness. The lack of licensing fees with HDR10+ could end up being mightily tempting for manufacturers and content creators alike – but it's not like big Hollywood blockbusters are hurting when it comes to budget.
The most likely scenario that we can see happening is the peaceful coexistence of HDR10+ and Dolby Vision, a idea that Dolby's SVP of Consumer Entertainment Giles Baker seems to tolerate if not directly support.
Whichever format wins or loses, the result is going to be better picture quality for all – and that's something we can all get behind.
This is a 4k HDR 10 monitor : https://www.walmart.com/ip/LG-32UD99-W-LED-monitor-32-31-5-viewable-3840-x-2160-4K-AH-IPS-550-cd-m-5-ms-2xHDMI-DisplayPort-USB-C-speakers/697592211
But not a 144hz :)).
http://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-32UD99-W-4k-uhd-led-monitor
It is not about transfer rate we have USB 3.1 Type C for that.
It is about HDR 10/10+ + 144Hrz + 1440p/ 4k too much for current tech.
I already told you TV don't really have 144Hrz I have a "400" one and NOP, suppersampling will not work for monitor because you really need to have 120,144,200 FPS :D.
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The HDR10+ is too new
There are lots of HDR implementations already. Not all are HDR10+ or Dolby Vision compatible, of course. My iPhone X has HDR, but the display (fropm what I've heard) doesn't even have true 10 bit support. It's some kind of fake HDR (didn't really dive in the technical stuff yet, so I can't explain it completely). And I can tell you - watching HDR content even on this small fake HDR display looks sooo much better than on my LG monitor. If I had that quality for my monitor I would already be satisfied. It looks absolutely glorious. So my point is, it doesn't have to be like "HDR10+ or no HDR at all!". Even current HDR implementations below HDR10+ can be fantastic.
It is not about transfer rate we have USB 3.1 Type C for that.
What do you mean? Monitors are generally not connected via USB. Display Port, HDMI, DVI. Those interfaces have to have sufficient bandwidth. USB doesn't matter.
It is about HDR 10/10+ + 144Hrz + 1440p/ 4k too much for current tech.
What do you mean by that? Bandwidth is the limiting factor, nothing else. What do you mean by "too much for current tech"? What exactly is too much?
Ok, let's break it down. I just did a little calculation. Total bandwidth is X * Y * Bits * fps. I calculated with 10 bits per pixel for HDR. I hope HDR doesn't have any additional information that needs to be transfered (correct me if I'm wrong, I don't know much about HDR). HDMI 2.0 has has 18 GBit/s, HDMI 2.1 has 48 GBit/s. As you can see, 1440p UW 144Hz HDR should easily be possible. Even 4k should be doable (see picture below).
(Sidenote: it's even possible to connect a monitor that supports it with 2 cables, if one does not suffice. So even if my calculation misses something, we have plenty of bandwidth with 2 cables. If the new monitors need that much bandwidth, they might actually go for that solution.)
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Forgot to say this:
I already told you TV don't really have 144Hrz I have a "400" one and NOP
Yeah, what you mean is frame interpolation. That is how a TV can get to absurd numbers like 400Hz. Monitors don't do that. I don't think there is a single PC monitor in the world that uses hardware frame interpolation. So if we talk about a 200Hz monitor, we talk about actual 200 refreshes via GPU per second. By the way, you can do frame interpolation with software like SVP. It's actually interesting. I use it for movies. I go for 1.5 frames per original frame, and the end result is quite nice. (I can't go higher than 1.5 or there will be artifacting in fast scenes).
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FYI: No more answer from me today anymore. Will be out the whole evening. But I am eager to read your replies tomorrow. :)
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the EA part of it and of course the fact that as M$ store they kidnapped all their games on one digital store :(.
And this is more the enough of a proff for mois.
Uplay the fact that you need to run Uplay on steam just to run a game, you can also have Denuvo + Uplay + Steam on a game just because Ubycrap wants to do so, and also the way they treat their employees as crap I know I worked a little for them as a student for a local branch :(.
And you have the big fat boy on the cort that it is Steam :)) I did 2 papers on it in my master degree lectures and got 2 A's for them :))) so I know a bit of STEAM let's say.
Steam and GOG are for me. Steam reaching 1.300 and GOG 150 :P.
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the EA part of it
I see. So Origin is not really shit (because it actually isn't, it's a descent piece of software), the sheer fact that it represents EA is enough for you to condemn it. Then why did you say this?
with EA I don't even bother because ORGIN is shit .
This sentence makes no sense, if the only reason for you to think Origin is shit is that it's made by EA. This is a circular argument then.
and of course the fact that as M$ store they kidnapped all their games on one digital store :(.
Valve does the same. Nobody cares about that. You seem to be quite fond of Steam. But they sell all their games only on their own platform. Try buying Counterstrike or Half-Life somewhere else. And you know what - they did it first! EA (and MS) is merely copying what Valve did first.
Uplay the fact that you need to run Uplay on steam just to run a game
You are free to buy the UPlay version. Then you don't have that problem anymore. And btw, you barely notice UPlay if you start a Ubisoft game on Steam anyway. It's really not that bad.
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Do you want to bring the many things that EA did every year :
Circular but a good one.
The new Battlefront fiasco with Jonson Loot Box.
The fiasco with the new Mass Effect that is crap at best, AAA that have that kind of problem with Animations enough said.
Every Studio and franchises that they destroyed do you want me to enumerate them : start with Ultima and we can go one and one :D.
I can write a paper on how bad EA in more then 20 pages:D.
It was awarded many time the Worst Gaming company :P.
You know that Half Life was ported to consoles ?
Now why would you want to have MP on more then one platform so you can split the servers and the fan base.
And remind me when was the last SP that Valve made hmmm :)) not and argument at all :)).
Uplay as a platform is crap from UI to catalog so why would you want 3 DRM's, is this really a question :)).
NOP really the only good alternatives are Steam the first digital platform has the biggest catalog and after GOG that has partnershitp with Steam throw GOG CONNECT and DRM free :D.
The rest are crap on many levels :D.
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Circular but a good one.
A circular argument is never a good one. It's never even a real argument. :)
Do you want to bring the many things that EA did every year :
No need, I am well aware of everything in the history of EA. All that really doesn't matter for the discussion. You said this:
with EA I don't even bother because ORGIN is shit .
So you said you don't want to bother because Origin is shit. So, you have no interest in EA games because you dislike their client software. That is what your statement says. If you don't mean it that way - well, then you shouldn't say it that way. ^^ And I reacted to it by asking what about Origin you think is shit. The answer was basically "EA is shit". So, we can simply conclude now that your argument is not "don't bother with EA because of Origin", it's the other way around - "don't bother with Origin because of EA". Because Origin is actually a nice piece of software and simply works. In some cases even better than Steam.
You know that Half Life was ported to consoles ?
So? Is this supposed to be a counter argument for my statement that Valve keeps their games on their platform? You started by saying EA keeps all their games on their own platform. Should I tell you know that almost all their games are also available on console? Does that invalidate your argument? ^^ No, if we talk about the platform PC we have to acknowledge that Valve is no better than EA in creating barriers and monopolies. They keep their games on their own platform. If it's alright for Valve, it should also be alright for EA.
Now why would you want to have MP on more then one platform so you can split the servers and the fan base.
And remind me when was the last SP that Valve made hmmm :)) not and argument at all :)).
Valve has lots of SP games. My argument counts for them. And we have lots and lots of examples of platform-independent multiplayer. People on Steam and UPlay can play every UPlay game (to my knowledge) together without problems. Same servers. Do you really think there is a technical reason for MP games to only be on one platform? No. Counterstrike could easily be sold on UPlay or Origin and run on Steam servers. They just don't want that. They want their monopoly, because they are just as greedy as EA and Ubisoft.
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Well, i guess after this SO LONG discussion, one thing that everybody agrees that no-one get free keys :D they at least pay something, and i guess developers are happy with that :D
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We were talking about Publishers not devs, I being a software dev myself can't condemn the devs but the publishers screw them :P.
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It's okay, the deal section seems to be embracing greymarket reseller sites for some reason right now...
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It's not about embracing, it's like about getting cheap games..
At least it's better than paying nothing
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Yeah, but buying games that just happened to fall off the back of a truck hurts developers.
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Nope it doesn't at all, one more thing we gotta consider is they regulate the distribution to their entirety. The physical copies are hard to get for free, or snatch off, or greymarket as developers are already paid by the distributors regarding the same. They do follow a policy of such kinda things and they take extra special care while distribution.
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at the time of posting, it was $15.. lemme update it now, my friend probably bought the game i think..
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I don't think the GOTY is worth it. 6/8 dlcs were shit.
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tempting to get that F4 goty to gift but not from that site 😑
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Well, suits yourself, it's legit and I've used that site for over a year, there's a saying in america "There's always first time for everything".
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cdkeys.com is not responsible for any loss or damage resulting from lost or stolen programs or use without permission. cdkeys.com makes no warranties, express or implied, with respect to the Digital programs and disclaims any warranty to the fullest extent available
Your rights under this Agreement will automatically terminate without notice and without refund of any fees if you fail to comply with its terms. We may terminate the Agreement or restrict, suspend or terminate your use of the Online Shop at our discretion without notice at any time
That about sums it up how legit they are
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I think you're a bit confused. "Legit" and "gray market" are two different things. "Legit" means that they provide what you purchased. Nobody's saying that you won't get the game if you buy it from here - the site is indeed legit in that respect.
However, the keys are not purchased directly from Bethesda by cdkeys. That's why they can't offer a warranty on them. They may have been purchased from a lower priced region without a region lock, pulled out of retail boxes and sold separately (often you get emailed a photo of a piece of paper in this case), or purchased with stolen credit cards. "Gray market" means that you can't follow the distribution chain, and the product could potentially be stolen.
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Try https://www.gamivo.com. I saw it for € 3.07 there!
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I just buy The Evil Within 2 + The Last Chance DLC on Gamivo for 14,33€ with payment fees, pretty sweet price!
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Been buying from them for a couple of years now, no issues so far.
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Same here.. but these folks don't understand a thing :D :D
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Me and my friends have too. We find the best prices with absolutely zero problems from this site. Their stock of keys is the only lacking thing, I've found.
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lovely grey-market site. had a quick look for keys from blizzard since they don't let any 3rd party sites resell their products :) given how there are keys that might not work and there would be little to no support from the site id refrain from buying there.
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Well everyone has thier own taste of choice, some like to eat pizza, while others love to eat shit :D :D
Still i've used this sites for almost a year and half and all my products are working
And guess what, BOXED KEYS cannot be returned at all costs :D
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Still too much for that crap of a Fallout !
My max price is still 10$ for Goty so I will wait some more :D.
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Yes I am I could have got it for 18Eur but I don't like the game that much.
The base game was already 8 Eur so you have this, The season pass is crap but I like to have complete versions of game when they have new addition in them and not cosmetics.
THIS IS MY BELIEF but IF you think this game was worth 110EUR at release :(.
I bought TES V legendary + SE with 7.5EUR practically so why not this let's say 15EUR, 10 EUR is too little for now :P.
I have 2k+ in 6 system so I don't really care that much for this mediocre game :D.
TES V and F4 were poor compared with TES III and F NW :(.
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Well i do want to have the complete versions of the game as much as possible. But this game isn't shit, as mostly compared to other games in the market. If you ask $20 is more, yeah it is, but $15 it isn't..
Especially for THE EVIL WITHIN 2, $15 is nothing. that game worth more, considering the story, the game-play and the respect to the horror genre..
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I am talking about Fallout 4, it is a bad Fallout period, a ok game but a bad fallout PERIOD.
I will buy AMID EVIL https://store.steampowered.com/app/673130/AMID_EVIL/
It is better then F4 :P.
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You should try THE EVIL WITHIN 2 for one time. you'll be scared for sure..
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Me scared, not a chance.
I played when I was young silent hill at nigh alone in the house so NOP.
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Ok I bought the "OK" FPS called Fallout4 are you pround of yourself now :(.
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What does that even mean?? Why will i be proud of myself, I'm just helping my fellow gamers to get games as cheap as possible
BTW how much you spent for that? is that a GOTY version?
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17 EUR: +2Eur more then my max and of course Goty I already told you that I buy this way.
I was trolling you, tanks for the best price yet for the Goty :P.
Now I don't have money for AMID EVIL, hope your are proud of yourself damnnnnnnnnnnnn :(.
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Excuse me, in what context you're asking the question?
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LOL, i didn't know about blacklist or white list, just a friend enlighten me now. :D
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Bottom of the website is a link called "Stats" where you can check your blacklists/whitelists and other statistical data. I think this thread you created would place you on a huge number of blacklists.
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Steamgifts is not fond of gray market sites and cdkeys is detestably one of them. To defend cdkeys can lead to higher count of blacklists.
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Well the games mentioned here and the main publisher of these games have only one retailer, that's STEAM.
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Fun fact in March I had 31 now 95 :))).
In 1 day 29 LOL :)).
But again I give so much fucks about this because I 99% enter only in group GA so irrelevant to mois :)).
And again the one that lose are the ones that black because I black them back so no GA for them MUHAHA.
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Fun fact again today I received a black from another member for posting in this thread :)), come 4 more and I have 100 :P.
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Actually in France for the new "French Days" (like Black Friday but less good lol)
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The Evil Within 2 - 9.99€ in box with pins free:
https://jeux-video.fnac.com/a10738489/The-Evil-Within-2-PC-Jeu-PC + https://jeux-video.fnac.com/a10913008/Set-Pin-Badge-The-Evil-Within-2-objet-derive-Objet-derive -
Wolfenstein II The New Colossus - 9.99€ in box :
https://jeux-video.fnac.com/a10738492/Wolfenstein-II-The-New-Colossus-PC-cederom-PC
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Can you please share a screenshot, here it's showing error 403
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The Pins are free (not 40€) when we buy The Evil Within 2.
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Hey. is this a digital version or a retail version??
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want to know about that too, never heard of this site before
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so they cant provide steam key, they will have to sent the game to your home address to get the key
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It is retail - "boxed". Besides this, the digital version of Wolfenstein still costs 59.99 €. But I also never heard of this site.
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Doesn't the "boxed" version include the digital (steam) version? Just the installation is via CD possible (e.g. Arkham Knight was the same for me)?
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To be honest, I can't tell, because I don't have the game, but even if it's the case, you also get the box. And the dedicated digital version is much more expensive in the store.
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Well, i was wondering to buy that, if it's a ROW key
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- Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus
- The Evil Within 2
- The Evil Within 2: The Last Chance Pack
- Pins Collector The Evil Within 2
Proof : https://i.imgur.com/B4bMY7j.jpg - 3 ROW Keys.
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Well, you bought that for yourself :(, you could've bought 1 for me :(
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Used it when i didnt have a lot of money and I've never had an issue with it. Only thing that annoyed me was user errors such as me buying the newer Assassins Creed when it's for uplay... Got so annoyed but I dropped the code in a group chat so it went to a happy uplay user
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Hello there, check out this links as THE EVIL WITHIN 2 hits low
THE EVIL WITHIN 2 - https://www.cdkeys.com/the-evil-within-2-pc-steam-cd-key - $16.69
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