The Poison Known as Bundle Giveaways

See, this is the problem with contributor points, I said it as soon as they were introduced. If you remove these points which, let's be honest, aren't that effective at the moment anyway, the whole problem will be solved. People will be able to give away games they want to give away, people will be enter for games from bundles they missed and no profit will be made by anybody.

In order to counter the massive point increase if people still spam loads of bundle keys simply prevent games from bundles from generating points while the bundle is still in progress (and 1 or 2 weeks after) (or just ban them completely during that time if that is that hard). This will help distribute the points over a larger time scale, thus reducing the problem.

Haven't we had this thread before? lol ;p

What I suggest.

Make 2 sections to create a giveaway. One labeled KEY, and the other called STEAM GIFT. When making the giveaway before they hit submit make it saying "YOU CAN CONFIRM THIS IS A STEAM GIFT, AND NOT A KEY?" And obviously make it go the other way around as well.

I'm sure there are many ways to do this/better ways, but that's just something I have an idea about.

Edit: Realize we weren't suppose to suggest stuff.

Edit 2: The admin will update with something more official soon. How soon?

Hm...

Thanks for all your hard work, loko, cg, and the soon-to-be-mods support team.

So all past giveaways that at some point in time was released in a bundle will be removed? I find that unfear for those that gave away legit though. Also, would it not be possible to add a checkbox that says "This is a bundle giveaway." that voids the contribute benefits. I find that throwing keys and the like around in chat is not giving people a fair chance. I have done it myself, but it really is limiting the possible winners to those who happened to be in chat at the time. If the box is not checked, then the giveaway wont go through? Or maybe unless the game is actually IN the users inventory, the giveaway wont go through? This way we can post keys that has not been part of a bundle and keep bundlers at bay.

I don't know what to make of this. I mean there's an obvious need to stop people exploiting bundles that they've paid like a penny for. But there are a lot of innocent parties as well.

In my case I bought two spare copies of a bundle, paying above BTA. These were bought purely for the intention of gifting, and gift them I did, splitting their keys across my personal friends. Nobody needed my last Bastion, so I gave it out here sometime long after the bundle deal.

As far as I'm concerend I was being generous, but reading this I somehow feel I've done something wrong. :/

we all bundle j/k this awesome loko! Just another improvement on SG

Looking forward to it, as I have 8 Indiegala VI bundles to give away.

Nice, but there are those that also abuse the contributor system. That is a problem for those that are poor and can't give enough to fill the gap. Eg, a person used a whole week of savings to get a Fortix to giveaway. The person then sees a giveaway for a game that's on the wishlist(say Skyrim). However, the giveaway has a $100 contributor value to enter. You guys get it?

So is this just an announcement saying that something's in the works and will be revealed very soon?

I damn well hope it's not going to be simply outlawing all games that have ever been in a bundle, even though that's what this message suggests. I know I entered a giveaway for Gundemonium Recollection, which has been in an Indie Royale bundle, but the giver specified that it's an inventory item that he/she bought to spread the love for the game.

The possible solution going to be implemented might be using the steam API to check inventories of gifters to make sure they have the item. This would also prevent people from making fake or mistake giveaways. There were talks of a script of sorts being implemented/proposed that would verify people activated their gifts, so I dont think it would be much bigger of a step.

Please be so kind and ban the ppl that i reported a month ago via support ticket. I bumped my ticket every few days but that did help. Pls don't ignore me.

I hope that the decision improve the community. It wouldn't be cool to not give away unused keys from amazon, IGN etc.

Alternate Suggestion:

make optional checkbox "Is it key from a bundle" if checked the user who gives away the game is not eligible for receiving contribution points, but still can give away the game. I think it's fair.

thanks

Any word on CG's post?

I thought of a solution. IF you get a bundle key. Accept it. thank the person. Take a screen cap. Activate it. report them. Mark it as not received. With someone doing 10 bundle giveaways as real ones. he will get 10 not received and be a big red target. same with people saying its; a full one and then give betas. Let them do it. who cares. follow above steps. this will discourage people from making them.

1: accept the game and activate - take a pic to prove you got a bundle key.

2: play game and wait a week

3: mark the game not received

4: profit

QUESTION, it is still allowed to give away the ENTIRE bundle as one giveaway right? But not split it up and create 5 or 6 giveaways. I believe that is what the Rules say, and I'm wanting to make sure that will still be the policy as it was with all the other IndieGala and HumbleBundle bundles. I have several complete IndieGala VI bundles (and a few with just 3 of the 8 games) and I would like to give them away even for just 6 to 8 contributor points, as that is what I payed for them with the plan to give them away here (Not, of course, to split them up).

Great idea. Punish people who want to giveaway games. Wonderful example of everything wrong with this site...

You should have to decide if you want to be a "contributor" or not when you sign up. Only people who choose to be contributors can earn contributor points, and they can only enter contributor giveaways. If they want to have their "We're better than everyone else" circle jerk, then can do it alone.

Waiting for the inevitable "We're better than you" response

What about the really deep discount sales on steam? Will those get treated similarly to bundles? I'd argue it's not too much different than a 90% off sale game. Or is it the reason for the anti-bundle sentiment more intrinsic to bundles (e.g. terms of the bundle itself)?

well at least we can still get train give aways..:)