I keep seeing accounts here who have more than a thousand games owned on Steam. Is it just me, or is that A LOT of games, and it would take a good while to play all these games? So my idea is basically to have an option on the Create Giveaway page, where we can set a maximum of owned games in order to enter the giveaway. That way, there is at least a chance that whoever gets the game actually plays it? Or maybe a maximum Steam level? Or maybe a maximum entered giveaways? Or maximum games won?

(I'm not sure if this has been brought up before, but if so, please direct me to the discussion, thanks. :-))

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Alright, restrictions on giveaways here are very frowned upon, so I'll continue to create unrestricted giveaways. I'll see if I can find some groups that I may fit in, and perhaps do some giveaways there too.
I'm still open to discuss the moral of restrictions of giveaways, as I still believe it's up to the owner of the item that is being gived away to choose who he/she wants to give it to. :-)

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The site itself rarely gets updates like that, so your best bet would be to use SG Tools and make the giveaways invite only.

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Yeah, I think I'll do that next time. I just had 80 giveaways now, and it's a bit time consuming. But we have to strive to keep the community clean, I guess? :-)

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Most of the active* users here on SG have over 1000 games. Just cos someone owns a lot of games doesn't mean they won't play what they win. You're just as likely to see people who haven't got very many games to not play their wins.

*as in people who actually do giveaways, and in theory shouldn't be the ones punished from entering giveaways

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Hmm... I feel like it's much better for someone with few games to win rather than someone with many, as the level of appreciation is (usually) higher with the one with less. But you are right, there are gamers with many games who play them all, but I don't really want to feed the greed?

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Are you feeding your innate desire to exact out what you consider to be justice, or do you truly want to giveaway games to people you want to play the games you giveaway?

I've given away a lot of games on SG, but I haven't won that many. Am I suddenly greedy, just because I have bought lots of game bundles over the last 8 years, and bloated my steam library? I play games. You can't tell me just because someone doesn't have a lot of games on their steam account they're suddenly going to be more grateful for winning a game here.

If you really care about people playing games, then join one of the many groups that "forces" their members to play the games they win.

Bear in mind, if you start doing group-only giveaways, people will see that, they might blacklist you, and then suddenly your chances of winning games also goes down as well. karma's a bitch

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I want what I give to end up with the right people, and that they are happy and appreciative (by actually playing the game). I'm not saying you're unable to be so just because you have thousands of games, but there are many out there who aren't, and I seek a way to filter these out. Unfortunately, all kinds of filtering will end up filtering out innocents... (FTR, I believe almost all my giveaways have been unrestricted, except regional restrictions and train giveaways)

But I get your point, and I want everyone to have the same fair chance to get a free game. But do I also want the greedy botters to have that chance as well?

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I'm sorry that I'm a greedy botter. Have fun with your restrictions game.

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Dude/dudette... Did I say you were? You may have a lot of games, you may have played them all, and you're giving to the community. But please don't feel attacked because I want to filter out people who I consider have "enough" games.

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Nope, this is the reason I have tried resisting joining groups, up until just recently. I hate the fact that one demographic gets punished just because of silly reasons. I respect what you're trying to do, but you're not going to fix people, so please don't get discouraged when you realise those games you giveaway are still going to people who don't play them. like yourself, for example, it seems oddly hypocritical

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I don't want people like me (who end up collecting games that get no playtime(4 of them(one with a 100k keys lol)) to win. It's not hypocritical when I'm equally affected by what I want to do.
Also, I believe the word "punished" is wrong here. If you believe that the time, energy and resources spent on this site make you deserve to enter (and win), alright, punished is appropriate. If not, you're just "excluded", which no one likes to be (because that means you won't get something that others get, and that is deemed unfair, regardless of your possessions at the time).

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If you believe that the time, energy and resources spent on this site make you deserve to enter

I wouldn't say "deserved" per se (it was you who are using the word deserve, when all along you are the one considering excluding people because you don't think they deserve to win games!) but there are a lot of people here who give a lot away, it seems unfair the only reason they don't get a chance to enter a giveaway (winning aside), is because you deem them unworthy of winning more games just because they already have too many games. So that begs the question, where do you draw the line over what is too many games? I've seen accounts with only a few hundred games, and only a few have been played, and then one with thousands, and hundreds played. Same percentages. My point is, exclusions happen all the time, just don't go making exclusions based on some irrational fear that people with big libraries are somehow the scum of the earth. You wouldn't have won half the games you won if you take that mentality, as most of your wins are from people with over 1000 games in their library (yeah, of course, maybe you don't care about winning yourself, but then are you really human :P) I know you don't understand what I'm tying to say, and I've just wasted my time trying to explain myself once again. Peace out.

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I still believe it's up to the owner of the item that is being given away to choose who he/she wants to give to. :-)

I totally agree, but how you decide to do things is probably best kept secret ;-)

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I get what you're saying, I'm just not sure if I want to agree with you :-D
But yeah, I don't really have the time to play games all day long anymore, so I've become very selective to what giveaways I enter now. That's no excuse for my history however. I dislike what I did, and I wouldn't want others to do the same. I don't believe I deserve any of the games I won, but I entered because of my greed (wanting free stuff, you know?). But what one deserve or not is not up to oneself to decide, in my opinion.

where do you draw the line over what is too many games?
Good question, and I don't know. What I do know is myself, and I'll try to use that as a compass for my actions. I believe I have many games, but then I see people with 40x the amount of games, and I wonder how they got all those games? Sure, a lot of them are shit, but why buy them? Sure, you get them in bundles, but why redeem them? Sure, you enjoy games, but why are so many of them yet to be played? Those questions I ask myself too, and I'm not pleased with my answer. That's why I came here, to find a way to give games to those who have a pleasing answer to those questions.

I don't consider your time wasted, and I'm grateful for the time you took to reply to me :-)

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As it's very cheap to get a new account to level 4 (and I would say even to level 6-7) using some dubious tactics, I'm afraid, that just choosing to limit the max owned games could lead to an increased chance of winners being the people, that break the rules here.

So, I think, the best advice is, what Mayanaise has said in the previous post - make your GAs to groups requiring the won games to be played, like Play or Pay, Playing Appreciated or Playing Matters for example. And don't bother about those, that blacklist folks making most of their GAs to groups... whatever you do, someone is sure not going to like it.

Saying so, I must add, that looking at your GA history I'm quite surprised, that you have started this discussion at all. Checking like 5 pages of the GAs, that you have made, I could not see even one, that would not be a public GA without any level restriction. So, as I see it, for over 2 years you've been a full time (on average a GA every 2-3 days) bot and leech feeder, and now you are concerned about excluding "the greedy and the bots"? Well, better late, than never, but how about starting with using the level restrictions, and setting it at least to level 2, if not 4-6, and checking out, how it goes? Or joining some groups, and making GAs for them?

I don't want to offend it, and I hope, that my criticism does not hurt your feelings, but what you say is just illogical for me, and I really think, that you should at least try for a while some simple and common solutions, before looking for complex answers.

EDIT: It's also a bit funny, that you bring out this topic, having your own Steam profile set to: "Always keep my total playtime private even if users can see my game details."

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I will check out these groups, and see if it's something for me, thanks! :-) And yeah, it's The Internet™ after all, one will always find resistance...

Haha, no worries about offending me, when you are writing a long, relevant, and professional-like comment! You've made me like you! :-)

But I understand now that restrictions on giveaways are frowned upon in pretty much every way, based on the comments here. So I will now either resort to group giveaways, or keep them open to everyone, depending on the game and how much I spend on it.

Regarding my total playtime, I was unaware of that actually, as I haven't really changed these setting since around the inception of my account lol. I'll see if I can find these settings and change them :-D

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Not in my opinion. Many Games doesnt mean much as you could just have 1000 trash games that are just there for +1s. If I win a Game that goes into that category I will also not be that grateful about it, however if i win a game like Cyberpunk 2077 I would be very grateful and happy. Also less Games mostly means that people are either using accounts just to win Games with or just dont play much at least from my experience when it comes to this site. In General i might agree with you but not when it comes to steamgifts :)

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Good point! Yeah, I'm beginning to realize that now. When it comes to giving, I'd usually choose a different place, but this is the best place to give away games (are there many others?) :-)

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"I need more ways to exclude people from my giveaways" seems to be the trend around here lately.

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The goal is to exclude the greedy and the bots, because it feels like the game goes to waste if they end up winning. Unfortunately, innocents will be excluded in the attempt...

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Well, I'm down with your suggestion, as long as anyone who uses those filters cannot enter the giveaways of those who don't use them. :3
That seems fair to me.

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That does indeed seem fair. :-)

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Let me give you a gentle heads up.

People with "a lot of games" likely won't be entering your giveaways anyway. They probably already own the games you're giving away. For instance, I own a "lot of games" (I also play a lot of games LOL), but after checking your entire giveaway list, I've entered exactly one of your 395 giveaways. Thus, people with fewer games are, statistically speaking, more likely (and able) to enter, and more likely to win.

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Agreed completely. Not only that but the people with tons of games are often the most frequent givers, as we normally get more dupes from bundles and the like. I know that I'm personally in that boat quite a bit of the time and I love tossing the spares out to various groups or even out to SG users > x level (depending on the commonality of the game) to spread the games around a bit.

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That is very true. However, I still dislike that people enter, win, and redeem their game just to let it collect dust in the library for years (maybe forever) without ever being played? Like you (not trying to hang you out, but you serve as an example):

Owned: 11586 (including DLCs)
Owned games that haven't been played: 6178 (including DLCs)
Won: 943 (including DLCs)
Won games that aren't played: 398 (including DLCs)

I'm unable to sort out the DLC since they have no identifier as DLC, so the number is probably a bit lower in reality. But still, my point stands regarding the fact that some of the games you won haven't been played (yet).

(I have the list of titles, if you want it (not sure where to send it))

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I still dislike that people enter, win, and redeem their game just to let it collect dust in the library for years (maybe forever) without ever being played?

You've won nine games in 5 years and played less than half of them.

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4 out of 9 I haven't played indeed. I dislike that fact looking at myself, and I would be of the excluded. My point still stands. :-)

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Since you decided to use me as an example, and to help illustrate my point...

From my SG Profile page:

Gifts Won : 1,457
Gifts Sent : 6,424

I'm pretty sure I've given more to the community than I've benefited from it .... but I like to give things away so... 😁

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Haha, I used @Tzaar as an example, but I'm not disputing what you give/take, I'm talking about what you already have, compared to many others. But as some others here have mentioned, people make several accounts to exploit people like me who want to give to those with few games/wins. So I can't really do anything against the greedy, as they can just create new accounts... So whatever I do, being greedy has no repercussions here. 😥
I too like to give, but I would prefer to give to the humble. So one of the better solutions as others have mentioned is to join some groups that follow up on the people who win.

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My mistake. The treading for the conversation got a bit wacky.

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LOL!

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Couldn't agree more, especially for people who use esoteric SGTools filters. Fine if people want to set subjective restrictions, but it would be fair if there was some way to make them bidirectional just like the ordinary blacklist - otherwise they just become a convoluted workaround that is still one-directional.

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Here's the thing. I have over a 1000 games (I have a real problem ignoring bundles...) but look how many games I have won, and how many I have given. I am not greedy at all and a lot of the games are shite that I have =)

Also, my account serves my wife, two kids, and myself so...

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Exactly - family accounts aggregate a ton or random stuff, and can be used to centralize them all and serve them up via Family Sharing to other machines, etc.

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I didn't quite think about family sharing, but that's a good point.

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You can always create/search for a group with rules like that one, however you're falling into a generalization mistake, not because someone have a lot of games doesn't mean he/she will not appreciate or play wons here, there's several groups and events here that encourages users to play their wins, like Playing Appreciated or PAGYWOS, so if your concern is that the one who wins your games will not play it, try those groups

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Sorry, I just really dislike the mankind's insatiable greed. But you're right, and I'll check out these groups, thanks! :-)

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Sorry, I just really dislike the mankind's insatiable greed.

"Nothing fills the belly of the Son of Adam except dust."

Sorry, man... It is in our nature. There are some individuals who train themselves to control their desires, but most are driven by them like cattle.

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So true...

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As others adviced before are your possibilities sgtools GA's and GA's for groups that force their members to play the wins in X months (or a timeframe you set).

I would say in general your thoughts, about people with a lot of games will play a lesser percentage of them because that percentage are higher ammounts of games as the same percentage is for someone with much lesser games, are understandable.
But from my experience are a lot of the people with a low ammount of games not be better at "playing wins" and not "appreciate wins" more.
You can get at both ends people that fits to your wish.

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That is true... I will look more into groups, and see if I can find something that fits me better. It's not that I want to exclude people, I just want my money going to someone who is going to spend them, and not someone who throws it to the hounds and still want more.

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In this age of abundant digital goods (especially Steam games), library games count means nothing. I once bought a $1 bundle because it had games that dropped cards I needed for a few sets. I activated the keys (I think there were about two dozen games), idled them, but never bothered removing them from my library (I just hide them from my games list instead). So at the very least I'd say that this would be quite a poor way to determine if a winner will play your games.

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I activated the keys (I think there were about two dozen games), idled them

No you described EXACTLY the sort of person they don't want entering ;-)

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How so? I said I bought these games with my own money, knowing their purpose would be idling - these are also games that are pretty much all shovelware assetflip trash, so I certainly didn't plan on playing them in the first place.

Now if I had won those games on SG only to idle them, I'd get where your coming from, but in this case I don't see how what I do with my own money and my own Steam account describes the kind of person OP doesn't want entering their giveaways. They explicitly said that their concern was that people with lot of games "would take a good while to play" (which is irrelevant when these are shitty games that I didn't add to my account for the purpose of playing).

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Whoa dude what the heck are you talking about?

All I said is that you DESCRIBED the exact person they don’t want entering. I wasn’t attacking you, ya big dummy.

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What, idling games? Pretty much everyone does that these days. :P

And sorry about that, I misinterpreted your reply as me describing myself as the type of person OP doesn't like - no worries, I wasn't upset or anything, I just have a rather... lengthy/overly-elaborated way of discussing or making a point. I realize now that it sounds pretty defensive, unintentionally.

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I have never and will never idle a game :P

To keep order in my library I must have games with 0 hours or games that have many hours and as much achievements as I can get :P

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I actually used to do the same (avoid idling to preserve my gameplay time intact) but I eventually caved in and began idling. Nowadays I don't care for Steam stats as much as I used to, and even tend to play games that are off-Steam or DRM-free without adding them to Steam/using the Steam overlay. Gaming experience takes precedent over stats and other social features, I guess.

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I also focus on gaming experience but I like achievements and to see how long did I play a game so some games that are good have xx+ or even xxx+ hours and most or all achievements while some bad ones have about a few minutes to few hours a no achievements or a few.

That way I will know what games I should play when I will be 65+ and will want to have some fun from the younger days :P

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All good ;)

I used to idle games as well (yay, free money), but I like to keep a clean playtime now in the hopes I play all the games (LOL). Only 88% to go...

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3.5k games

Godspeed...

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Oh, another restrictions drama.
We definitely need one every day.

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Sorry, I tried to search for previous posts regarding this, but I failed at getting relevant results... Do you have any discussion threads you may send me to to read more?

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No way man, i'm not digging for that stuff. xD Sorry.
But people generally wonder fairly often about restrictions this and restriction that on this site.
Sigh~ Even though true gifting is simply about selflessly giving away stuff, for nothing at all.
Those people with 1000s games you saw?
Likely hoarders, it's even recognized as a sickness, albeit in RL only as far as i know.
But obviously you can be a hoarder in the web, as well.
Check my whitelist initiative here:
https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/cVFYv/whitelist-network-initiative
This is a good example on how you can filter them out.

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Interesting! Thanks! :-)
Well, I guess many of their 1000+ games are from bundles and full of games that are "worth nothing". But I'd rather give away (if possible) these games, rather than redeeming them myself just to let them collect dust, knowing that I will never find time nor motivation to play them.

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Indeed.
Give/trade away what you are not interested in/have no time for/or just want to give, no reason for it to sit in your steam, collecting dust.

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Join the "Playing Appreciated" group and you can be sure that people who will win will play your games in 30 days and also will be happy to win the games.

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I hate not really that group for the sole purpose that I'm already super picky in what I enter, and with this added requirement (having to play it ASAP) makes my selection so small that I never enter anything. :P

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I love this group as I enter only the games I know I want to play and also thanks to that group I discovered Lost Planet series and it also forces me to play my other wins by "MONTH NAME is a "play a game you won on Steamgifts" month" so I can keep my backlog in check and try new games outside from my to play now list :)

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I've personally been intending to getting to the point where I can join Playing Matters for a bit since they allow wins to be beaten within 3 months rather than played within 1 month, but I also want to be at 60% beaten wins so I'm not at the complete minimum. If Playing Appreciated had an option to extend the amount of time you'd play your game by but you must play more of it by the extended amount of time (eg: you have 2 months to play, but must have at least 75% of HLTB time and all achievements that at least 50% of people got) I'd probably join more PA games.

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I think you can talk to MouseWithBeer about your ideas. Maybe they will like it and add that as an option :)

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A curious question to OP: I take it you don't buy bundles (Humble bundle, fanatical) ? at least not for yourself ?

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I do buy bundles, but usually only for one or two games that I want myself, the rest I give away. :-)

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You can use SGTools, but # of games is a horrible metric - at least use something like Real CV that somewhat estimates an actual worth of their account. WIth the current amount of shovelware on Steam, games range from actually worthless (not even worth one cent as they are too horrible to warrant the time spent on them) all the way up to >€20 never bundled/discounted - so the variance in pure # is HUGE.

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Alright, I'm starting to get convinced that # of games is a bad solution. But how about the other suggestions? Thoughts?

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set level 0 giveaways, bots have a low number of games!

seriously, find the right group and make group giveaways.

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Thanks! Will check out! :-)

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You're hurting yourself thinking like this. Unneccessary stress

To get anywhere close to what you're dreaming of, you will have to stalk people and whenever you find someone who lives up to your expectations (play their winnings) you add them to your whitelist and do whitelist giveaways.

What you really want to do, is keep your giveaways open to everybody, ignore the ungrateful winners and you'll appreciate the appreciating winners a lot more :)

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I'm always seeking to improve, whether it's myself, someone else, a community, or a society. Can't help but trying to find better ways to do things, but it's apparent from the comments here that my suggestion is not a viable solution, and is frowned upon. I'll take that with me, and try out some of the suggestions here, like using groups. :-)

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I think are restrictions like that by using sg tools

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SG is at its core a site for game collectors to gift games to other game collectors. That's not what it really advertises itself as, but you will see that the most well respected users, high level users, those who get access to the best giveaways, are typically people who already have huge libraries, and I imagine that's the case for most active users in general, since it's quite easy to amass a large Steam library these days.

I totally understand the desire to add more conditions to giveaways (I've advocated the idea of 'won less than X giveaways' and similar in the past), but most hardcore users tend to fall into that 'random trading' game, and typically think that the amount or quality of games gifted by someone is what makes that person deserving of winning, so you're not likely to get a lot of traction for (IMO) more reasonable criteria.

On the other hand, I'd say that having a large backlog doesn't mean you're not playing games. It just means that you gave up on parts of your library. It's not a very healthy habit to over-buy, but it's common enough, and I'm not sure I'd want to force people to play some of the second rate games that they've acquired over the years.

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I never quite thought of it as a site by and for game collectors, but more "for the desiring, by the generous", or even "for the poor, by the rich" (bad analogy, but in essence)? Or perhaps that's what I wanted it to be..?

When it comes to the second rate games, some of them may be "worthless", but why bloat the library with them? Why redeem them? Why take ownership of something you will have no use of? I struggling to wrap my head around this, and I seek to understand.

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This, because how would people who give a few hundred or thousand games not end up owning a few hundred or a thousand games.

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