Yeah ... cant get any worse then that .
srsly tho , its like a daily thing now huh ...terrorist attacks , stabbings , people getting ran over by Nazis ....
The supreme leader should just nuke us all and end that madness already
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stabbings are a daily thing, yes.
chances of being run over by nazi are similar to the chances of conservatives being shot by crazed bernie sanders supporter i guess. it's not very high.
re; barcelona terrorism . a lot of this has moved to industrialized (western) countries now. sectarian strife in middle east has been bad for decades now. there is a lot of 'terrorism' there, that we never hear about here
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I have to say that, the worst part of that is the type of ppl injured. Let me explain myself: Las Ramblas of Barcelona is a really crowded place. It's the center. And there comes a loooot of ppl and tourists as it has a lot to see for them. As I head on radio, the injured ppl are from 17 diferent nationalities, which means terror will be not only on Barcelona and Spain but on other 16 countries. :(
T'estimo Barcelona! (which in english means I love you Barcelona)
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Apparently what modern warfare looks like. See e.g. thousands of civilian victims in Syria and Iraq from airstrikes by coalition and Russia - probably as punishment for profit many weapon company in Russia and NATO members made from sales to whoever from where many weapons did get into hands of all kinds of gangs, such as e.g. cartels in Americas which have high calibers often from the U.S., and similarly.
Or another example of what many apparently consider normal modern warfare, e.g. Merkel's officer in Afghanistan lied and more than 100 civilians were killed in double-tap airstrike based on that lie - all of which according to Merkel was in accordance with international law, and things moved on as if nothing happened.
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But hey, religions are GREAT, aren't they, folks?
We could be taking our first steps on learning how to explore the universe, but hey, let's do this shit, mankind, well fucking done.
I can't see humanity surviving long, either we will use weapons off mass destruction on each other just because of religion, or we will die because we won't have the technology required to prepare for a natural cataclysm, because of religion hindering our technological advance.
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With the budget that, for example, the US spends on it.... Compared to its military spendings...
NASA's budget is ~1% of the military budget.
I'm not even talking about religion right now, but how little nations actually spend on space development. There's a reason why the biggest hope for getting to Mars right now seems to be a freaking private company.
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this incident was nothing but politically motivated, religion had nothing to do. After all, Morroco's currently at war with Spain.
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That was the fucking point, it is not at war. This was a product of religion, just like Nice, just like many other shit that has happened, not politics.
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I'm Spanish and from the Canaries Islands, which are WAY closer to Morrocco than Spain (you can even get from the eastern islands to Morroco on an unmaned boat), this was religious, not cultural, but because some retarded dude 1,400 years ago decided to write down his stupid thoughts and people followed through.
They simply acted in Las Ramblas because it is FILLED with tourists and pedestrians, that's it.
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although i agree, more than in religions, the problem atm lies in multiculturalism (along with its capitalistic implications), as its only outcome is failure.
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The funny thing about atheist and agnostic, they think they believe in nothing but they are believing in Capitalism (Anyone can become billionaire, anyone can change the world). And what does bring this ideology (the lack of bond between people/family, the lack of meaning of life) ? Terrorism.
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You're suggesting that there is no such thing as an atheist communist and a christian capitalist?
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Multicultural bring to Europe new things...I dont know when Europe wake up and stop doing things they do...
Im from Poland and i dont understand how people can live in countries like Germany , France and for example Spain now and everyday be scared if whether sombody blow up near to me or hit me with car and do nothing with it...
If i see again people paint pavements with crayons like after many attacks before i don't even want to comment...
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We've no eternal tension. We lived for years with ETA in our country so we've sadly a long experience with terrorism. Is not that you get used to it, but you just live and don't think about. When something happens you cry and hug your beloved, but tomorrow you just live again.
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Yeah, we live in Barcelona and we're all safe. I don't know if something should change in Europe or the change is needed in the origin of these people, not an army help but economic or cultural so people can see this kind of acts are insane.
I know what you're talking about Poland. One of the sadest days in my life was the visit of Birkenau.
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An idiot in my blacklist?! HOW COULD THAT BE. I mean, it's not like islam is somehow a fucking religion now, meanwhile, there you are, bashing Polish people.
Can you... can you smell the fucking irony (and the dead bodies) there?
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Judaism is a religion. Hebrew is a race, though. If Judaism was a race, then what, are you implying I can change reace by simply believing some shit?
And how DARE they choose their own government and let it contradict YOUR opinion. Damn polish people, the only good thing they'd made was The Witcher 3. /s
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Hebrew is not a race it's a language. Judaism is the religion of jewish people. Coward racist people like you pogromed jewish people because of their religion.
Ah how ironical is it that we're talking about pogroms when Polish people are those killed the most jewish people during WWII after the German. You know, those shame German who choose their own government in 1933...
But it's not a place to talk about politics init?
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How am I racist again? Religions are not races, deal with it. I can hate, and WILL, hate on stupid fairytale books because we have a right to denounce ideologies.
Oh, and yeah, let's ignored they were attacked by both the Nazis and occupied by Communists. And why the fuck are we even talking about jews in the first fucking place? YOU are the one that brought up both Poland and the jews into this discussion.
Allah can go fuck itself, God can go fuck itself, Jehovah can go fuck itself, they are not real. No god is or has been real, no religion deserves respect inherently since they're nothing but ideologies and they're not races, you dense motherfucker.
And I give no shits either against or pro people from Israel, in the same way I give no fucks about people due to their race.
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"Article 21 of the charter prohibits discrimination on any ground such as race, color, ethnic or social origin, genetic features, language, religion or belief, political or any other opinion, membership of a national minority, property, disability, age or sexual orientation and also discrimination on the grounds of nationality." official modern definition of racism on the wikipedia page of...racism.
Coward.
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You again, ugh. How am I a coward exactly? No, really, tell me, I want to read your opinion so muc--
Oh, wait, no, on second thought just keep your stupidity to yourself.
Oh, and by the way, learn to read, those things are stated as discrimination on the grounds of NATIONALITY, which encompasses race and other qualities not related to race.
I will keep on saying the fuck I want about religions, so deal with it because it's not racism, you blind sheep. Otherwise what, I can't say anything against the caste system because it is rooted in Indian culture?
Go get a grip, you senseless moron unable to think for yourself.
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"The media does this crap all the time for propaganda purposes." I was about to whitelist you and remembered I already did. But to be more specific Hebrews is not an ethnicity but a biblical and ancient naming of "those who speak the Hebrew language". Bohemians and Jewish are indeed ethnicities but be wary of "Nordics": it doesn't exist as an ethnic denomination in current anthropology and rather was used last century as a racial exceptionalist ideology. Scandinavian maybe?
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Gracias, porque no quiero saber de gente que defiende a las religiones de todo criticismo por algún estúpido motivo o por equipararlas a razas.
Enga, que te vayan sobre ruedas las cosas ;)
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Soy ateo y no defiendo ninguna religión. No sé de dónde te sacas lo que dices, pero a mandar... Siempre defenderé a los colectivos por encima de las individualidades. Me importa una mierda si el que ha atentado es musulmán, judío o mi tío de Murcia. No han atentado los musulmanes o los judíos o los rubios o los morenos. Ha atentado un hijo de la gran puta y sus amigos hijos de puta. Si a ti te importa de qué raza, religión o el color de pelo que tienen, pues allá tú
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El "detallito" de la cuestión es que atentaron con tal de seguir el ejemplo del fundador de su religión, el tipo llegó a decir "He conquistado con miedo."
Pero vale, como tú quieras, todas las ideologías son bonitas y si alguien te tira de un tejado en nombre de un dios supongo que no tiene nada que ver, coincicendias de la vida. Todas las religiones e idologías son intocables y son perfectas y no tienen nada de agresivo en sus textos, por supuesto. Cómo no, tiene usted toda la razón del mundo, tanto como la de un santísimo santo se podría decir, nada menos. Me quito el sombrero que no llevo salgo en el corazón.
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El Corán no incita a la violencia, todo lo contrario. El uso que algunos den a un texto no implica que puedas meter al resto en el mismo saco.
Soy ateo, pero respeto el pensamiento de cualquiera, siempre que él respete a los demás. Sé que te va a entrar por un oído y te va a salir por otro, pero no pongas en mi boca palabras que no he dicho.
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¿Y quién te dijo que el Corán es pacífico? Y apuesto a que ni te has mirado los versos 2:244 , 2:216 , 3:56 , 4:95 , 4:104 , 8:15 , 8:67 , etc., etc., etc.
Si fuera por gente por ti, otras religiones nunca hubieran tenido que cambiar ni volverse más pacíficas, porque es suficiente con que te digan que "Oh, X es una religión de paz" para que no quieras ver que son libros escritos hace más de 1000 años por gente retrógrada.
Pero qué más da, sé que ni te vas a mirar ni uno solo, el 8:12 tmb está bien, ahora que lo pienso.
Seamos tolerantes con la intolerancia.
Pft, ahora dirás "oh, pero los musulmanes no actúan así". Y ya te respondo de antemano: ¿Y? Nunca he dicho que ellos sean el problema, es la maldita religión.
Y por última vez, las religiones no deben ser protegidas de crítica ni de reforma.
Pero tú sigue diciendo que es pacífica, tú sigue diciendo que es buena, tú sigue creyendo que son unos pocos la que la malinterpretan, tú sigue creyendo que es bueno que muchos de ellos prefieran vivir bajo Shariah que bajo la ley de cada país (que está lejos de ser perfecta, pero es bastante menos peligrosa).
Tú sigue creyendo que las religiones son buenas, y piensa en lo que te he dicho cuando vuelvas a oír de otro atentado terrorista de esta naturaleza. Porque sucederá, no puedes tener a críos rezando 5 veces al día y creyendo que un maldito trozo de papel violento tiene todas las respuestas del maldito universo y que no acabe en mierdas como estas.
Supongo que te será más fácil creer que "oye, no es posible que un texto haya sobrevivido tanto y que sea violento, estoy seguro de que todas las ideologías son buenas". Tranquilizante, ¿verdad?
Tú sigue creyendo que un trozo de papel es bueno y pacífico porque te lo han dicho, sin haberlo comprobado siquiera.
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I've checked it. The vast majority of Muslims understand the meaning and context of the verses you cite, and that is the reason they do not commit the atrocities we keep seeing in the news.
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Supongo que no me lees cuando digo que respeto mientras respeten.
El Corán se puede interpretar como te plazca. Muchos traducen la yihad como una guerra santa, una lucha contra los no creyentes, cuando otros (la gran mayoría) la traducen como esfuerzo.
¿Comparto ese pensamiento? No, no lo comparto. No necesito un libro o a un ser imaginario que me marque los pasos a seguir, pero otros sí (sea por lo que sea)
En el fondo pienso igual que tú. No entiendo como alguien, hoy en día, puede creer y seguir a un dios o unas escrituras (sean la biblia o el corán). La diferencia es que, igual que espero que otros respeten mi postura, respeto la del resto. Cada uno puede creer en lo que quiera. Las cruzadas no invalidan a los cristianos. Los terroristas no invalidan a los musulmanes. El uso de la religión en este tipo de acciones es siempre deplorable.
Hay miles de millones de musulmanes en el mundo y, por suerte, pocos interpretan sus creencias como lo hacen estos desgraciados.
Gracias por la información de las suras. Nunca me había parado a leer el Corán. Siembre había opinado partiendo de información de segunda mano. Ahora puedo opinar con conocimiento de causa ;-)
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Coward you say yeah so brave to kill innocent people with bomb or car when they dont even have a chance to defend...And yeah im proud that I am from Poland since i dont need to deal with those "Peaceful refugees" here.We as a country never cowardly even in WW2 when we got no weapons and ammo learn history read about Westerplatte.Only cowards in world are those who attack innocent people.
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being against multiculturalism\multiracialism = racism
elaborate, please
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For some reason I knew exactly how these terrorists look like, and I already knew which words they were shouting before any photos on news, but still these "tolerant" governments tell us that terrorism doesn't have nationality, and Facebook is blocking for any comments against these untouchable "people".
You think he was "avenging" his country after it was bombed by someone? No, he's from Morocco.
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How many people live in Morocco? How many are or will be terrorist?
How many people had a gun in the USA? How many kill innocent people?
It's not fair to point some country/religion/people just for the acts of bastards. A country or religion is not bastard. Bastards are.
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I've lost track I thought I saw this news story a while back but they said it was england? And that was just a replay of a news story they said was in France... Terrorists are gonna have to come up with something new soon if they want me to take notice it's literally like watching old news episodes, nobody takes any real interest.
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I'm confused, the only thing I said that didn't involve an 'I' or 'me' was the bit about nobody taking a real interest in old news stories. Lots of people, me included, like current news. I, personally, am simply having trouble telling all these recent and similar attacks apart, I'm not saying anyone else is having the same difficulties.
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all these poor people. :(
i hope their friends and family find the strength to go on.
at least they exterminated the scum in Cambrils. no need for judge or jury, just get rid of the bastards and the world gets that tiny bit better.
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If one of my relatives was murdered by such hellish pigs, I would like to see them jailed for life instead of being given a quick death (they are craving for it anyway). See breivik or abdeslam complaining how inhuman is their detention: that doesn't bring their victims back, but at least that's a form of payback.
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Why buddhists or christians don't make Jihad?
R.I.P. poor peaceful victims.
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They do, the medias just don't show you. Also they both have a similar concept for Jihad, and I mean the real sense of it which is introspection as fighting your own demons. But then there are radicals on one side and medias on the other :/
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Mossos (catalonia police) just made an update. Alcanar house explossion is finally related to the attacks. Terrorists were preparing several bombs to detonate in the vans after the attack. Fortunately one of the bombs exploded in the house and one of the terrorists died. We would be talking about hundreds of deaths if it had not happened.
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I guess they need to write more of that "Refugees welcome, Tourists go back" xd
Great logic, invite shitload of people that can ruin your economy + can have potential terrorists among them but say that tourists should GTFO when they are the force that fuels spain economy with great income (If I'm not mistaken Spain every year breaks their previous record for the amount of visiting tourists)
Ah, people never learn. And then they bash other people (or nations) that they are xenophobes while their own country is going down in flames xd. You can literally insert that "dog in burning house" meme saying "Its fine" here. At least in Germany people apparently realized that this "let's take them all into our country" business isnt healthy and that their füh...politician fucked up entire country
This shit will never stop until they will allow only christian refugees to enter the EU zone and send everyone else back to their own shit and untill the terrorist packs from around middle east will cease to exist from the combined forces tearing them a new one with military force
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Yep indeed. Cause it's every day news that a white person performs a terror attack.
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I was more reacting to the mental gymnastics of your thought process. You're using the same blanket blame that you are decrying.
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no he doesn't..he doesn't go around shooting people or running them over with cars.
No one claimed such.
..and taking what he says out of context like many people do just to hate someone is all part of the media crap..
Text/video/audio manipulation has come a long way, but there's plenty of eyebrow raising candor from his own verifiable words, tweets, and actions (which are outside of 'media' control).
if he hated women, why did he get married?
Seriously?
Voicing an opinion does not make one bigoted..actions speak louder. He doesn't go running around making people become bigots..
No, but making a bigoted opinion certainly makes one a bigot. He aptly encourages people to "voice their opinions" in this regard.
people get pushed to the limit, people tend to fight back including killing. I speak the truth and many times the truth does hurt..Keep calling names and such to one person..see how long it takes for them to snap. Yell in their faces constantly and see if they snap.. Then you will know what i mean. You call people bigots and soon enough they get tired of it..you call them women haters when you do not know them personally..they will get sick of it.. Same ol shit, different day.
Again, the exact thing you are decrying is something you refuse to apply to the other side. You know, the "snowflakes."
True Feminism died. At least the Feminists in the 60s were not misadrists. At least they had a noble goal..the right to vote and work.
First wave feminism was also very problematic, especially in regard to race.
If he was a misogynist, he would try and take that away and he hasn't.
Except he is, and has.
..then again, i had lots of experience since i'm 42..
Possibly the most depressing part of this long, run-on sentence.
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I seen it as an action in the dictionary..not words
So someone who hates black people isn't a bigot.
Someone who thinks women shouldn't be able to vote or work isn't a bigot.
Yeah, okay ....
You're clearly not "the rest of us."
The rest of us would call those people bigots.
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Generally speaking, the more a Muslim practices his religion, the kinder and more well-behaved he is. In those cases where he doesn't know his religion any better than the non-Muslims do, all bets are off.
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The thing about Islam is that "how to take the words, how to behave, et cetera" is all written down, too. That means that Muslims have even less of an excuse to behave badly than do other religions.
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You asked for it. Here is the crash-course lesson on "How to Deal with Anger."
Step One: Understand what it is. This is easier in some other languages (such as Arabic) where different words are used to distinguish between anger and other, similar emotions. What we are talking about here is "anger," the pulse-pounding, teeth-grinding, "red haze" that results in lashing out at nearby people and objects. This emotion is characterized by the shutting down of calm reasoning and measured action. There are different levels of anger, to be sure, but the "smoldering" sensation is the same. It is distinctly different from what might be termed "righteous indignation" or "being upset," where a person is on heightened physical readiness but still "cool," rational, and under control.
Step Two: Understand its cause. Anger is personal. It is a reaction to a perceived challenge or insult. Put simply, anger is an offensive response to the wounding of one's pride. If you have no pride to wound, you won't get angry. If you do have pride in your heart, thoughts like "How dare he say that to me!" or "How dare she treat me this way!" are immediate precursors to anger. If you want to avoid ever getting angry, you have only to cleanse your heart of any pride, but that's not easy to do. Humility takes great effort or suffering to acquire and careful nurturing to maintain. Most people have trouble with it.
Step Three: Understand how to escape it. So, assuming you are only human and have fallen victim to anger, how do you break it's hold on you? Here are some steps you can take.
Once you have your intellect functioning, again, you can then figure out what course of action may be appropriate. Taking right action will channel your energy, and steer your focus away from the anger upon which you were just focused.
These instructions are greatly abbreviated, but I hope you find them helpful.
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Hey, if it works, I see no reason to stop using the technique. )
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Seek refuge in God from Satan's influence. As anger is from Satan, seeking protection with God helps. If you are atheist or agnostic, this step will probably be meaningless to you.
Not practicing any religion, but I also use a solution similar to MissDefi's. Stay calm, contentrate and imagine the source of anger - be it someone, something, or just an idea - as an attack, and raising a wall against it. Not to destroy, not to fight, just to keep it out / at a bay. Works fairly well, and often helps with your step one and two as well - imagining the source of the anger requires understanding it, and after one sees the source clearly it's way easier to deal with the source, than trying to reduce the consequences.
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... imagining the source of the anger requires understanding it, and after one sees the source clearly it's way easier to deal with the source, than trying to reduce the consequences.
That bit of human psychology works in other situations, too. Understanding "the trigger" and your response to it makes it easier to "work around it." That is one of the things they use in Therapy for people suffering from past trauma.
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You are using an extreme, I can provide you with bunch of news articles just to show you the comments of avg Bosnian muslim man about this and/or previous terrorist attacks. And you wouldn't be happy with the results.
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Well, at least you gave them a different point of view to consider. Engaging in dialogue doesn't usually do any harm, and it may do some good, but it does tax one's patience.
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That's one way to put it Khalaq but it's a bad one because you can't reason with such filth. Here in Belgium there's a cordon sanitaire ("sanitary cordon") around all the fascist\neo-nazi\extreme right nutters where political parties and individuals subscribe to the fact that they will not ever talk or have anything to do with those things, ever.
There are voices here in Belgium that want to talk to them but these are mostly those who adhere to their nazi points of view and some try to hide this by saying that they just want to "talk" with them. You can't talk or reason with things that by their actions and words are no longer part of the human race.
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When the Police say, "Stop, or I'll shoot!" they are prepared for the suspect who doesn't "stop." The idea is catch the attention of those who are still open to dialogue, not substitute talk for necessary action. Those who have already "gone off the deep end" are unreachable, but they were at least given the option to change their minds. Only the Creator knows what is in a person's heart.
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When I see those things raising their right arm and chanting "heil Trump\hitler", when I see a car with a neo-nazi driver at the wheel riding pre-immediately and deliberately in a crowd of people in true daesh style, when I see neo-nazis in paramilitary outfits packing more firepower than the local police parading down streets, when I see them waving nazi flags or flags of their own with swastika's incorporated in them and not forgetting that nazi nutters are usually bigots, homophobic, racists and anti-Semite then I do not have to be a rocket scientist to know that their humanity has left the building already a long time ago. There's no such thing as good nazis, there are only very bad ones, the moment they associated themselves with the WWII nazis and for their words and actions to date. There's nothing good that can come out of the very pure evil they are and I'm sure there's a special place in hell for them and also for other's like daesh terrorists where they can play with each other and were they will burn until eternity.
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''the moment they associated themselves with the WWII nazis and for their words and actions to date.There's nothing good that can come out of the very pure evil they ....''
That's what I hear about Jews associating with the state of Israel.
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That's mostly by those that rather have no state of Israel at all, anti-Semite nutters, those nutters that are yearning for white supremacy and the return of the third reich, those countries that have the eradication of Israel in their charter\constitution and those that are considered radical (Islamic) terrorists in the Western world. They and their supporters make a lot of noise and drama but in the end the WWII nazis were defeated and defeated hard. Israel is not afraid of the enemies surrounding it's borders as Israel hasn't lost a war since 1948 and some clearly can't cope with the fact that Israel is here to stay because the sob that can stop Israel has not been born.
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And to dispute the fact that Israel is not so nice state you brag how you never lost a war and how you are not afraid of your ''enemies''. gg wp
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Thank you very much for the BL. :3
I'm not bragging I'm just stating a fact that Israel has never lost a war since 1948 and I was indeed right to think that some can't cope with that fact. Btw before you finger point at another country you really should sweep first before your own porch as there are quit a few fun facts about your own country out there.
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Oh Jesus Christ.
No wonder you are stronger than Arabs with that weapon of mass destruction you call music.
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You really can't be the sharpest knife in the drawer thinking that it's music that is the reason that Israel is kicking radical Arab (terrorist) ass and defeating invading Arab countries since 1948 to date. ^^
And btw our WMD are nukes. ;-)
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I knew a girl from Denmark that used to tell a lot of jokes about Jews.... If I knew you back then I would have laughed even harder.
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I can laugh about Jew jokes or any jokes for that matter knowing the source or origin of those jokes but I know out of experience that some really can't laugh or cope with Arab jokes especially those about goats.
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Islamic jokes about goats? Never heard any. :D
Ok I'm out.
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You really should spend more time reading the Torah.
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I don't need to, my rabbi gives me dispensation when it's for talking about nazis\fascists, radical terrorist nutters like those of daesh, enemies of Israel and the like.
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2 terrorist attacks in 2 days? Not enough, vote left my fellow Europeans.....
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3 terrorist attacks in two days? Not enough, vote left my fellow Europeans....*
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if only 3 attacks in two days https://storymaps.esri.com/stories/terrorist-attacks/?year=2017
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and day before: Konduga, Borno, Nigeria (A woman bomber blew herself up and killed 27 others at a market in the village of Konduga near Maiduguri.)
and day before that: Ouagadougou, Burkina Faso (18 people were killed and 22 others were injured when suspected jihadists opened fire on a Turkish restaurant and Hotel in Ouagadougou. Three attackers were also killed.)
and this list goes on...
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A terrorist attack just happened in Turku, Finland.. reports of a group of men stabbed 5 women with knives, one of them was pushing a baby in a stroller.. :(
So sad.. thoughts and prayers to the people of Barcelona and Finland..
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From what I've read the baby is ok. No one has died, thankfully. Reports saying a man was also either being attacked or got stabbed. Conflicting reports on that though.
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I read in Serbian media earlier, here's the first search result in English: http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/one-dead-after-stabbing-attack-in-germany/news-story/34d95a807ad8f4b772fd6bc21c4caa4b
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I know it's not France or Germany, but there has been another terrorist attack with a van. There are 13 deads and the terrorist run away. These days that city is full of tourists, if you have someone close there, please make sure that person is okay.
Another atack in Finland :( Check the last comments for more info. I'm not finding any information relatable or with some truth
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