Why ,,offers" in trading are so bad?

People trading Dead Island Epidemic for a TF2 key ;p

But it's a gift you know!

I haven't traded for months but all my trade experiences are positive.
Mainly because I avoid the OFFER type of topics as much as possible since they usually.
turn out to be "[H] NOPE-s [W] offers", which is a waste of time for both parties.

I also like these kind of trade threads :

I have...

a list of bundle games

I want...

a list of never bundled and barely even discounted games

I had someone told me a TF2 key wouldn't be enough to cover the cost of a $1 tier bundle.

and then some people just use https://barter.vg/

I think it is also a matter of perspective. The few times I traded something I was on the buyer side. Often you find offers where you want a game from a bundle and the seller wants 1 key just for this one game or if the games has good reviews even more because it is "quality". Just recently I tried to find someone to buy Dead Island GOTY from. After a little research I noticed there are two main sources: the Steam Sale for 5 € and the Deep Silver Humble Bundle. Since I didn't want to have the Deep Silver one (because it was linked with a key for some SR3 stuff which does not interest me) I tried to trade for the Dead Island GOTY gifts. And the few sellers I found all wanted 4 keys which translates to 8 €. It took some time but i found one selling it to me for 3 keys which I think is fair for both sides. The seller still makes 20%! profit. So I get the impression that most time the sellers are trying to rip off.

Also you should not let stress yourself too much from this. After all the trading is not your job and source of income but a hobby. If it is your job and source of income you are making something different wrong (just my opinion).

And with the [W] offers you are inviting a lot of dubious offers. I would think that a list with prices to orientate could help a little bit. Not much since most people don't read the threads anyway.

Someone once told me 8 keys for doom classic complete. I nearly died of laughter.

Bro maybe you don't get it... 90% of trades here is for bundles.
To put a game in your trade list means you have a leftover that you want to get rid of, this is why people offer very low.

People selling games and keys for paypal buy them very cheap in some countries, so unless you're from russia (or others) you will hardly resell something making profits.

Bundle games especially suffer for low value because thousands of people buy them and trade what they don't need. I'm pretty sure that if I spend 2 hours on trades page, I can find your tropico IV for one sack of gems (0,6$) or even lower! Or even free if I trade it for another game!!

Also in an economic point of view, on steam trades there is NO REAL CURRENCY. You can pay paypal, wallet, cards, SoG, ToD, games, items and so on. If you were on an "animal trade market" and you wanted to trade a cow, most people would come offering you chickens and pigs. But someone may have 1.000 kg of firewood to trade and he would try to see however if you need it, it's normal!

At the end of the story, don't trade here if you don't like it. People always lowball for things that they can live without, especially when you have so much competition on the market.

A guy once offered me 10 Steam Cards for Surgeon Simulator Gift.

It gets worse when you try to sell CS:GO Skins...

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I didn't read the whole thread, but all I can say is that offers are bad because people try to profit from every trade (that's why I don't trade much anymore, it takes too long to get rid of a game)

1. if you know how much your item worth
2. you will recognize fair price offers than overpriced offers
3. trade done
4. profit

Golden rule for me:
If a seller doesn't say a price, don't bother making him an offer, he will try to "scam" you / ask for WAY to much and therefore will waste your time. So I have no problem obviously when people offer him way to little (and therefore wasting his time), he deserved all this "trouble" and it's his own fault.

People are selfish- that's it.

Maybe problem is, peoples cant read... you can say what you want many times and still getting other (bad) offers. (steamtrades worth reply is "maybe something from here") i dying from this offers.

Well, I read through your post, and I can't really understand your anger. I mean people are trying to get everything for the lowest price possible. Back in the dark middle ages this was called bargaining. And still even now, if you put up your stuff on a website for sale, you give it a price, but don't expect that people will take it for that much. They will try to lower it as much as possible, same with trading. You have to get used to it, and ignore them.

For your bundle concern, I'd suggest GroupBuys the rules allow noone to make profit, so you will meet fair prices there. If a bundle costs 2.5$, and has 10 games, every game should be sold for 0.25$ or less. It's a really good group, and you don't have to buy whole bundles, or face irreal prices if you only need 1 or 2 games.

As for me, I long left actively trading on SteamTrades. When I came here I knew nothing about bundles, but since then a whole new world appeared. I started with an Alan Wake Steam key (believe it or not, it was not from HumbleBundle, but from a local gaming magazine) trying to trade it for ShootMania Storm. Yeah, call me lowballer, but back then I didn't even know what HumbleBundle is, but there were people, who pointed out, that it doesn't worth much. After that I started using my cards, and I still don't understand your anger. Cards are offered for you, because a lot of people love to craft badges more than anything. They wouldn't sell them, but craft a badge from them. I don't understand it's logic either, but thanks to these people I didn't have to pay a cent for bundle games.

So calm down, there will always be people, who can't or don't want to read your carefully detailed thread, but you just have to accustom to it, or give up trading entirely. It's your call.

SG attracts scammers because all of the trades and giveaways on SG and the availability of a lot of new/fresh SG users/prey... BUT SG also " creates scammers in a way " because SG support is to slow to react... I had 11 years on Steam when I was beta key scammed by a serial scammer that atleast has scammed 5 other SG users with the same modus operandi...My ticket concerning this is now " pending " for 5 months...I can't but wonder how many more SG users he scammed to date...

Eh, i'm not fond of vague offer as it reeks of people wanting something more than what their stuff is worth. I prefer clearly stated orders so I know for sure what to expect.

Trading is so stupid. It might have worked, but bundles and sales have ruined it. Since people are getting stuff at different prices, they want what they paid for it, and the people who see it on bundles or sales want to pay that price for it.

bump for solved

Usually see
H: Free games or games bundled for less than 20 cents
W: Games worth $20+
1:1 trade lol or even 2:1 trades
9 out of 10 offers usually are not even worth looking at
Pretty much lowballers and greed

I mostly trade the repeats I get from bundles for other bundled games, so for me trading works wonders.
I guess it doesn't work well if your intention is to get some cut out of it. But if you really want to just gain a little money, why not go and stocking up in bundles with a hi demand to later resell them for a 10-15% more? Just avoi d making deals you don't like.