Anyone else skeptical about AMD Ryzen?

For me to even have an opinion about it, I'd have to see more than pre-release "leaks" and "benchmarks", as those are either released (or faked) by rabid fanboys, the company themselves or sites looking for some easy click-bait.

Outside of that, don't really care much.

Intel still has far better offerings, but you need hard cash ($500 - 1000+)

for example you can get four of these and motherboard that supports four CPUs.

It's just that Intel prices top end very expensive and they can cut if needed.

I'm sure Ryzen will offer perfectly good price/perf balance.

I'm more concerned about the power consumption. But on winter, you'll get an extra electric heater.

I can't say. But I wish to see a revolution on the Linux gaming scene and Ryzen + Vulkan look promising.

I'm sceptical about everything :3

I'm waiting to see the benchmarks for the Ryzen 7 1800X. I plan to build a new PC soon, and I'm debating between that and the upcoming i7 7950X. Also interested in seeing how Vega will perform with DirectX12 and Vulkan.

Im an AMD fanboy through and through, but I will wait for the 2nd generation just like I did when FX came about. Give them some time to work out bugs and issues before I move on to the next socket, besides its cheaper that way ;P

erm. I already have an AMD.

I'm not skeptical nor hyped for Ryzen, i'm just curious to see real tests. Reviews are coming the 28th, i believe.

Intel will not fall lol, they're an extremly powerful company. They can bounce back obviously but they will need to make a real effort price wise and really improve the T.I.M.

They went the lazy way lately and AMD coming back was really needed for everyone.

Too many fanboyism on both sides. I'll wait for news. I really hope vega to destroy Nvidia prices because what the fuck.

I have no idea, just like everybody else. But what I would like to see is some competition for intel. Not because I'm an amd fanboy, but because competition makes sure the companies actually try to make great products instead of loafing around and charging way too much.

For small budget gamer like me, i will not interested with ryzen if they dont have plan to compete with Intels best proce/performance CPU : Pentium G4560. unless they make a quad core cpu with 4MB L3 cache for under $60

AMD always offers better performance in lower price range, but at some point typically intel is the only way to go - I'm pretty sure that this will be similar, AMD will rule low-budget PC market, but won't be able to offer performance comparable to high-budget intels.

And I'm damn sure that even if AMD catches up, intel already has something better waiting. But they'd need to catch up firstly, and even based on those leaks and benchmarks it doesn't seem like it. Yes, they're close, but not close enough, at least development-wise, but we'll see. Secretly I hope for AMD to catch up and offer something better than what intel does, but I'm very sceptical - AMD already have failed us several times in the past, and I can't remember last thing they did right.

Sceptical? Depends what you're hoping for. There's a lot of voices expecting a performance revolution who will inevitably be crushed and the stony silence around power consumption doesn't feel great either. But if they're even vaguely competitive with Skylake they'll find a market, the lack of HT on the i5s and absurdly priced i7s leaves fertile ground for anything half decent.

Intel will do what they always do, lean on their partners and come out smelling of roses. I'll be buying AMD for that reason alone.

I'm always skeptical, no exceptions. And since it's AMD we're talking about, I'm even more skeptical than usual, I'll wait for post-release benchmarks, preferably made with bought CPUs (and not review copies, which are usually hand-picked for maximum performance).

I'm pretty sure Intel is just artificially restraining themselves, since they currently have no competition in the high-end market (no reason to innovate, they'd sell anyway), and they'll hurry up to release something better should the need arise.

No reason to be overly hyped or skeptical, benchmarks are coming soon.
If they really are as good as the leaks make them out to be maybe the market for CPUs in the next few years will become more interesting and competitive, and that's ultimately really good for us consumers.

Intel always has something up their sleeves. But they won't need it for a long time.
AMD is not in any position to be a threat to Intel. Even if Ryzen is better in benchmarks or bang-per-buck they don't have the OEM market like Intel does.
They don't have the manufacturing capacity nor the financial health to go really cheap.
Also, it's in Intel best interests not to destroy AMD.
Because once AMD is gone you have a monopoly in the PC market which would inevitably mean taking intels business apart
Edit:
So, it'll be business as usual. AMD hopefully brings good new CPUs which are actually competitive now but the majority of the market goes to intel.

I'm cautiously optimistic. I just hope Ryzen isn't going to be the victim of its own hype.

Still, based on the current information, the worst case scenario is that they just barely catch up to Intel's current CPUs, which then get price drops, and Intel releases a new lineup of quality CPUs that leave Ryzen behind. Even then, that's still an improvement over AMD's current situation.

Well Intel hasn't had proper competition for years now. They've gone fat and lazy. We've seen that with Kaby lake that had a massive 0% performance increase in IPC. Less than a few months later, they've already abandoned Kaby Lake and started talking about next gen and a 15% IPC increase. Well they said the same thing about Kaby Lake.

Intel underestimated AMD, and now they are panicking. After all, it takes a few years to actually get a new CPU out, if it's a new architecture or node.

That being said, today it's really about what you need: Lot's of cores, go Ryzen, few cores, but high hz, go Intel (although 6 core should be min these days), you need lots of PCIe lanes? X99/X299 platform it is (Intel). That's what's so great about Ryzen: Competition and a larger selection of products.

Optimistic - whatever AMD brings, Intel will match it (with the next gen presumably) to the favor of buyers ... personally i don't
give a damn which brand as long it delivers what it promises (AMD GPU for my purpose ... / INTEL CPU for obvious reasons).

It's been a bad week at Intel. | | Ryzen Fever

No Man's Ryzen is coming soon, something to get hyped about!

Actually, been thinking of making the switch from the Blue/Green Team to the Green/Green or maybe even Green/Red Team this time around. The stock "Wraith" cooler actually looks promising as well for someone like me who typically doesn't overclock and typically doesn't water cool (Way too expensive here even for a basic setup).Computer parts here have been getting crazy expensive, so going with equivalent AMD/ATI this time around might save me a few hundred which in turn I can use to upgrade to higher tiers of the same.

I don't care but I am very excited to see. Built a 2011-3 system with an i7-5820K some time ago and from what I have seen they shall be slightly faster. Or a bit more, but this doesn't matter as these systems and mine too have way more power than we need atm.

For now I'm in the Intel CPU / AMD GPU group, but my machine is getting a little old so I might jump on the all red bandwagon if the 2nd gen RYZEN is any good.
Anyway, most likely Intel has something on the backburner to take out if AMD gives them any trouble.

From what I have read, their $500 AMD Chip is trading blows with Intels $1,050 chip.

Intel can match them and has been able to for a long time, they just never had to and could keep up the prices to keep profit. This will create competition again and force Intel to actually lower their prices but Intel can whether the storm.

As it stands, the only reason AMD is still around is because Intel will not let them die to avoid a monopoly suite against them with the controls that go with it.

If AMD actually creates something that they can't beat, you can best bet Intel will cheat like they did last time before they allow them to give up too much market share. Intel has gone as far rigging compilers to intentionally run worse and strong arming companies against carrying them and even when caught still made billions in profit from it. They have done it before and they will gladly do it again.

As an AMD fan though, I am very glad from what I have seen so far and wish I could afford to have one.