Update: Thanks to the support members who are looking into this. I noticed that many of the games listed below have been set to reduced or no value. Dropping the games to no value is great, but letting them get reduced value on fake $50 games is still kind of crazy. They are still getting $7.50 real CV each for dozens of copies of $50 games. It would be nice if those could be reduced more, but at least something is being done. Thanks for helping :)

Update 2: Big thanks again to support. A comment has been posted to let us know that all the games listed here have been added to the free list so they don't give anyone CV at these crazy prices. I just checked the dates on all the games compared to the date of the first GA anyone created for them on SG and I am happy to report that every game listed here has been set so that nobody will get any CV from these games no matter when they created the GAs.


I just noticed users giving away multiple copies of games that are full CV with a value of $50 (a lot are $50, some are $25-45) and they look like they should cost $1 or $2. There is no way anyone would pay that much for these games and they all have around 10-12 review that are 100% or 90% positive.

Is someone creating these games for the purpose of cheating the CV system here or is there some other reason why they would be created and somehow users here got keys to give away?

I am not saying that everyone who gives away one of these games is bad since I can understand if a user normally creates giveaways for any free keys they get and happens to get one of these from somewhere, but I checked one user's account and they are creating multiple GAs of most of these games and another account that is giving away 5 copies each of a lot of them.

I'm not sure what can be done, but maybe support could manually set the value of games like these to $1 or just mark them as free so they don't give any CV. I don't think anyone would have much to complain about because I doubt anyone is actually paying much if anything for these. The only ones that would be upset would be the ones who lose their fake CV, but they have nothing to complain about.

I just want to point out that the majority of users, like myself, have been here for many years slowly working our way up through the levels. I am almost level 8 after 8 years, but if I knew where to buy these games on grey market sites for pennies, I could be level 10 tomorrow. I don't want to do that though because it is wrong and if everyone started doing it, it would hurt the site. If a new level 0 user gives away 5 copies each of 12 of the $50 games listed, they would be level 9. It would probably only cost them around $10 to do this where it would cost the average user giving away their spare Humble Monthly games around $1200 or someone who looks for decent sales or bundles that give about 4 times what they pay in CV around $750.

Aoihana
Art your brains
Ball Torture
BeachRun
Bots City
CHICKWEED
cookies СOOkies COOKIES
CowboysShowdown
Crazy Zoo
DOLPHIN HUSTLE
DonutCrabs
Dr. Science quest
DUCK Mission
Eagle Simulator
Fishy Business
Fortitude invasion
Grot Slasher
helicopter 2.0
Hot Summer
Ink World
The Last Metal Shooter
Limousine Parking Simulator
Magic War
Mechaguard
MOVERS IN THE WAREHOUSE
My Sweet Ants!
Need for Spirit: Off-Road Edition
Over City
Panda Run
Pixel Pirate
PLANETOIDS
Police Hot Pursuit
Puzzles with nature
Ragedanger Earth
Rich Taste of Ecchi
SCALEPLANET
SpearFrog
SPLAIT RAGE
Super Arkanoid
TOTO Quest
Underwater battles
Villwars
Voice Shooter "Pif Paf"
What do you hear?? Yanny vs Laurel
Yuonger Adventure

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I just read the Update 2. Thanks for making my day :)

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As a little Info, at least one of the abusing/exploiting ones started to blacklist the ones that wrote here in the Thread- Maybe "only" the ones that reported games.
I assume, in the end, with the target to hide the fake game GAs and try to prevent the reduced/free status for this games.
Of course this person don't change their gifting behavior, because it is perfect for cheating in groups that have autojoiners -each time entries guaranteed :-D ... that's so dumb that it is very funny for me-.
I think that absolutely each group that allow such exploiting/abusing is a bad group.

Oh and to this person...
Did you really think you could hide this games and none else would report them ?
And did you really think we don't know the sources and don't have tools to scan there for new stuff ?
You don't get anymore cv with such games.
As earlier you learn the lesson as better is it for all -and you save on top a few cents- :o)

Till now...
Level 7 --> 4

Have a nice day

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I know you're not naming individual, but it does feel a bit like witch hunt. "Someone started to BL people, I will give how much they dropped in level, go and find on your own if you want". Users in this thread helped a lot to spot this issue (I did not even know source shop of those keys exist before...) but thread should not move into mocking / pointing fingers corner.

Affected users did lose CV. I hope most of them will not try to find another really cheap shop to try again to go to level 9 by spending $60.

I think the games in OP list had biggest "return value" but I went through all games available in this shop and set those that met certain threshold as no-CV.

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It could be only seen as a "witch hunt" when i would write a user name.
Good luck finding someone alone with the dropped level (i would say this is impossible).

I reported a bunch of those shops, with a tracker to have lesser work to find stuff, 2 or 3 years ago. A mod said it got forwarded to cg.
But cg never programmed something to add the stuff from this stores, automaticly, to the bundled list. Which was my thoughts at the begin, behind it, to reduce the needed mod work.
The games were at that time "only" in the $15 - $30 price range but the problem were the same as now and the same users/accounts abused/exploited it as nowadays -or some accounts wouldn't loose $2000 - $3000-.

In the end i am a bit surprised that not all mods seen this help.

I know the ones that handled in the past, the biggest part, of the add game tickets, known it.

I went through all games available in this shop and set those that met certain threshold as no-CV.

Thank you :o)

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It could be only seen as a "witch hunt" when i would write a user name.
Good luck finding someone alone with the dropped level (i would say this is impossible).

I'm just saying it brings negativity to the forum. There is no other reason to go where users are already polarized and be like "oh look there is someone who's doing x, they are silly for doing it against us". It is off topic. Some people tried to exploit system, we put games on no-CV list. There is no reason to go after them any more, and talk about individuals or hint towards them. Thread is about games that OP felt are exploitative. And you write random post about someone else adding people to blacklist.

As it was said anyone can search for those games, see who gave them away and made their own conclusions. I added dozens of games to no-CV list from gamehag giveaways in the past week and it's the same pattern - people were making GAs for each single free game, many of them were not added to no-CV list afterwards. But I will not go to a thread where people complain about gamehag giveaways, give list of games and wait for others to jump on it, search for people and add them to BL or whatever. They had boosted CV, now they don't. I will not try to point or hint toward individuals, say they started to BL moderator team in revenge etc.

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There is no other reason to go where users are already polarized and be like "oh look there is someone who's doing x, they are silly for doing it against us"

You are wrong.
The reason were that people know the detail that they get blacklisted from, at least, one user when they report in this thread, such "games".

And "us" would include me, that is wrong too because i have this user (and 999) other ones on my BL to minimize the stuff i see from all the cv system abusers/exploiters.
It wasn't a "random post" as you called it.
But i learned my lesson, next time i will give a fuck if people have a backlash for doing the right thing. That will make the site, for sure, better and more positive /sarcasm.

Besides that "sorry that i am not happy with all the abuse/exploiting on sg" and that i don't want to hide that i don't like users that not only do this but changed then only the way how they tried to still abuse/exploit the cv system. I can't go into details because that would give hints to the user but it gave, much more, as one way that he/she tried it, instead of stop with it. So yes, the second part, that was directed to him, was for sure "not the friendliest" but far away from insults or something that is punishable. I can dislike someone and/or his behavior without to insult.

From my reports got hundreds catched and i seen thousands of user profiles and steam profiles that shown black sheeps (multiaccounter, autojoiner, unactivated wins, regifter etc.) but have you seen me, on sg, "going after specific users" in public ?
I don't think so.
And trust me it is hard to write nothing when a catched autojoiner write then as he is fully against autojoiners and hunt the people that use them (or other extreme examples).
So please don't come up with "There is no reason to go after them any more...".
I am not dumb and i don't have so much lifetime or nothing else to do, that i could/want waste it to "go after them (after a report)" on sg.

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It's not hard to find at all Masafor. I think i found the person you're talking about by doing a few minutes searching those giveaways and based on the info you provided. Highlighting one person in particular with respect to this issue is surely what a "witch hunt" is. For me, the punishment for losing levels will make them think twice about making those giveaways so no real need to make a major song and dance about it. I am glad that you are letting the mods know when you see rule breaking but any punishment should be left for the mods to do. If people use autojoiners to join these giveaways, that means more chance for me to win the giveaways i enter as they are wasting their points on those giveaways.

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The extremely important part is

"I think i found the person you're talking about"

Which means, you aren't sure.
And that proof my words.

I am glad that you are letting the mods know when you see rule breaking but any punishment should be left for the mods to do.

It's new for me that i can do some punishment (as normal user).

Special after i warned the people here in the thread, that when they post "fake games", that they will be then, most likely/maybe, a target for, at least, one user.

It was discussed, days/weeks ago, if users should write the found stuff here in the channel or in a ticket.
I wanted to show this infos, that the users can decide, with the full knowledge, which way they want to handle that fake game "reports".
(Some will not care for the blacklist[s], others will avoid to get blacklisted)

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Unless i can read your mind i can never be 100% sure but i am pretty confident i know the person you are talking about. I probably would not have been able to work out who the person is but with the additional info you provided, i was able to. If you really want i can message you who it is on steam but that isn't the main point .The main point is you're indirectly calling out this person and if i can work out who this person is, others can too.

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Good morning,
it's interesting for me that other ones call directly out and don't get a punishment (or a comment), that other ones write stuff like "my last winner don't activated..." + "he have/do x" (so calling out for something) and no one cares but if the evil Masafor write that someone with level 4 BL users that report the overpriced fake games here in this channel, then it is indirect calling out.
It give 12,403 level 4 users and when someone wants to check them, it isn't forbidden.

To be honest the construct feels like some people want to dig and find something that they could see as (indirect) calling out.

In the end, i don't called out, i don't broke the rules.
But i learned my lesson, next time i will give a fuck if people have a backlash for doing the right thing. That will make the site, for sure, better and more positive /sarcasm.

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Good evening masafor,

The message/response wasn't meant as a insult to you but more a way of advise you that you may get into trouble over the way your message came across. If the tone of my response made you feel uncomfortable then i apologise as it was not meant in that way. I actually do agree with a lot of the points you made and i understand why you did some of the things you did. I do hope you have a good upcoming week!

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Hi Stevey,
thanks for your words.
To be honest, yes, your message came different over, special in combination with MSKOTOR`s comment that i read direct before yours -it was maybe in this case a bad combination-, because it gave me the impression as for other ones get easy rules used and for me count much stricter ones (like trying to find a hair in the soup).
And after checking the half day, no joke, autojoiner stuff (60 tickets done, 20 ready for the last checks before sending the tickets and around 20-40 need much more infos), wanted than to relax a bit and seen then incomming "critic", hit me on the wrong spot at that moment.

So let's see it as a missunderstanding that we cleared :o)

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(I did not even know source shop of those keys exist before...)

Oh come on, these type of games have been discussed here on the forums since at least early 2021. I remember a bunch of these priced at 30-50 USD showing up then. And it's been an ongoing issue ever since. I'm not sure how and why this specific topic finally broke through when several former ones didn't result in any action but it was very welcome so thank you for that. But not only were these asset flips discussed here, their source was also even advertised on SG. I know of at least 1 user who had a very visible whitelist topic, openly advertised this Russian keyshop on the forums and in his giveaways and in the end got banned for it. That was also in 2021 (summer I think). I'm pretty sure several mods knew about gamesforfarm (and possibly other similar shops) for a long while.

A question: Will you try to do something about the accounts that managed to register on steamgifts because of these scummy asset flips? I've seen SG users who didn't have a single playable game on their Steam account, only a few of these overpriced asset flips. I'd assume the 100 USD registration limit is there for a reason.

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"...and in the end got banned for it."

As far as i know, was someone banned for the advertising only because that shop sold accounts too.
Since that shop deleted this advertising part it was allowed and all other shady shops are still allowed too.

At least if we speak over the same shop and the same user(s).

I am not 100% sure if we do :-D

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Oh come on, these type of games have been discussed here on the forums since at least early 2021. I remember a bunch of these priced at 30-50 USD showing up then. And it's been an ongoing issue ever since.

And I don't need to know all the things that happens here, it's impossible. I've been focusing on deals, group recruitment and some individual topics. Personal life also means I did not have much time for SG for long periods of time. I did know about gamehag before. I learned about keyjoker, giveaway.su and other russian websites 3 or 4 weeks ago. And apart from knowing about G2A or kinguin I never followed keyshops, espesially not some random russian ones. I don't know if other moderators knew about those websites. But I didn't.

A question: Will you try to do something about the accounts that managed to register on steamgifts because of these scummy asset flips? I've seen SG users who didn't have a single playable game on their Steam account, only a few of these overpriced asset flips. I'd assume the 100 USD registration limit is there for a reason.

We do suspend accounts if they do not meet registration requirements. This is not a new problem, it is also possible to have Steam account worth $100 with some bundles before we manage to add game to the bundle list etc.

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Yeah, that's ridiculous. It looks like support has already backdated that game to not give anyone CV.

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Good thing I check here before posting something.

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I just added it to the list and put them in alphabetical order to make it easier to find games.

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is there a tool to filter who create expensive applets GA's from a list of members? Or do we have to scout manually who abuse the system?

@anothabrotha
I've found this useful link in first page thank you , just wanted to know if there was an addon to filter these GAs from GAs created by a list of members
@quijote
you're not wrong, the link below is useful but has limits, since its a general log and can not be used for a member list
@Masafor
thank you , that's what I thought

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Manually, I'm afraid.

But the users who do that usually create a lot of them at the same time, so they are easy to spot.

Edit: forget what I wrote. Read what the post below me said. I didn't know myself

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I think it has been said before but there´s a not so well known button on the bottom of steamgiftts(dot)com - it´s called archive.
Within archive you can search within all past giveaways for a game ..
eg: https://www.steamgifts.com/archive/search?q=splait%20rage
(I just picked the 1st one on the OP´s list)

hope that´s what your looking for!

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No official tools or for everyone available ones, besides the archive to search for specific games.

But you see often the same names that abuse/exploit the cv system with the same type of "games" from always the same, few, sources.

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there are still a few level 8-10 users with overpriced giveaways that were not affected at all by the zero CV because either the set dates are not correct or not all games are reported 😕

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All the games listed in this thread have been backdated to give 0 CV from before the first GA was created, so nobody will get CV from any of these. I didn't spend a ton of time looking for all the games and new ones are created all the time, so I'm sure support is still working on other games. I was just pointing out the ones I noticed that were giving ridiculously high CV because the price was increased on Steam.

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Report the ones that you see and it will be lesser and lesser advantage that they have from them.


My around 550 add game tickets, that were open, are solved. So from me comes now nearly nothing anymore because my attention is lately directed against the autojoiners.

In the last weeks got 32 autojoiners suspended, because of reports from one of my group members and me, the half of them permanent. 24 of them were level 0-1, the rest level 2-5. And around 100 tickets more, against autojoiners, wait to be handled.

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https://steamdb.info/app/2099940/ < Interesting regional prices.

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I don't know why they are doing that, but since SG uses the US price, I don't think it should cause any issues here.

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Could be something innocent like shifted decimal places by mistake as most of them are around 1400€ which probably should have been 14€. But might also be money laundering.

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It looks like support already set it to 0 CV. I'm not sure if they already had it marked as free or if they are watching this thread and saw your comment.

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They are watching and someone made a 19 copy giveaway that might have triggered it.

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https://store.steampowered.com/app/1259300/Spot_Sample_Witness_Simulator/

This one was free & then converted to paid game on 14 Dec 2021, price $199.99 ...

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I'm not sure what is going on with that dev. They have 3 games and it looks like they can't decide whether they should charge $200, $5, or free. 2 games started at $200, dropped to $5 or $8, and then went free for a long time. This game shot back up to $200 while the other stayed free and the 3rd launched at and still is $5.

I don't know how legitimate these "games" are, but if they are actually training or testing tools that a business would buy, I can see them charging a lot because businesses always get charged a lot of money for things. Since they are specialized to certain industries and will sell very few copies, I could see them charging a lot because they will not be selling much volume. That doesn't explain the drastic price drops though.

It doesn't look like the same pattern as the other games and there hasn't been any giveaways here for them, so I'm guessing they aren't selling cheap keys on gray market sites. Since there are no cheap keys or giveaways, I'm not sure if these should be reported and dropped to 0 CV. This is something support would have to weigh in on. If any of these games do stay at $200 and someone creates GAs, then I would definitely think they should be dropped, but I don't know what should be done at this point.

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I was thinking less about giveaways, I guess, and more about someone who previously claimed the game for free (like me) and now has +$200 account value

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@Everyone and especially Support:
I created a new community thread merging the problems with Asset flips, FOMO and deliberately overpriced games. For keeping it up to date, I need your help :)

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I saw the thread, but I don't really understand the purpose of making a list of games or devs. I never intended for this thread to turn into a list of these kind of games and it would make no difference to me to remove them from the OP. I just left them up incase others want to see them for some reason. There are dozens or possibly hundreds of other similar games to these that have been set to 0 CV and not added to this list because other users reported them or support got to them first, but I don't see any reason to seek them out and add them to the list because I don't feel like it serves any purpose.

My intention with this thread was just to find out why these overpriced games were being created and to bring attention to users and support that these games are being used to cheat the CV system. I just wanted something to be done about it so that the CV system of this site wouldn't be ruined. I still don't know why these games are created, but I am happy that they are now getting marked as 0 CV and that is all I wanted. It would be nice if Steam did something about it so that support here doesn't have to work as hard, but I'm not sure what can make that happen.

I just don't understand what the purpose of having a list of bad games and devs is. I know these type of games and devs exist, but I would never look through the lists in these threads and I don't see why anyone else would want to. I collect and play games that I am interested in and everything else on Steam doesn't really matter to me. I can see putting effort in to do something if there is some kind of solution, but I don't see how making a list will achieve anything.

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