Why the system its not working like:

  • when u create an entry, u MUST give the game to steamgifts.

  • when giveaway finishes, steamgifts send it automaticly to the winner.

:/

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Because the gift it is not sent directly through SteamGifts,you need to send it through Steam.

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change "steamgifts" for "steam" on my topic then :/

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So... you want the game to go to Steam... and for Steam to send it to the winner when they win. SteamGifts isn't affliated with Steam in any way, so even if you asked Valve nicely, they'd wonder what you were high on.

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On weed bro. But that doesnt matters at all...
Didnt knew steamgifts wasnt related to steam (u log on steamgifts trough steam so i guess at least they know each other and are agree in something)

Anyway thats prolly the reason of all.

thx for clearify

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(u log on steamgifts trough steam so i guess at least they know each other and are agree in something)

Or not.

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ok nice to know, good point dude

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because nobody trusts anybody.

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thats exacly the problem of how it works right now

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Well, it would be a hassle to say, set up a bunch of bots to handle it or whatever other method they decided to use. Also, there is sometimes the need to reroll a giveaway, which could be much more problematic, depending on how the system was implemented. Additionally, this would require some creative implementation to handle keys as well, or else disallow making giveaways with keys at all. Honestly, I don't think the odd fake giveaway or the generally slight delay between winning and receiving the gift is enough reason to warrant it.

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hmm well, ofc i dont know how to do it exacly...

but it seems they just need an small server to host a database where appears the gifter, the winner and the steam-key.

it seems now this website it just works to make the giveaway honest and random, and to let us all create and win giveaways...

its so problematic to let the gifter add the winner on friends, make the gift to him via steam...

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and it would make the site more prone to hacking attempts

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NOW its more prone to hacking attempts lawl

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You obviously are a newbie to the site then... Their database...flooded with gift URLs... just think how many times someone would hack someone now and how many times later

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omg lets see

  1. YES im a newbie on steamgifts.
  2. U think its ezier to hack the steamgifts database than any of this?:
    • Giving the chance to create fake giveaways.
    • Giving the chance to create a giveaway and end up not gifting the game.
    • Adding the winner to steam and send him an url to hack him with phising or trojan or keylogger or what fucking ever?
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Do you even realise what hacking means? If steamgifts are going to keep the gifts/cd-keys on their end, that would mean a sweet honeypot for any hacker who somehow slips past their firewalls. He will basically get all the games currently given away on the site.

And people who visit the URLs posted by strangers who add them on steam deserve to be hacked.

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It works pretty well right now - why change it? (I got my copy of FlatOut promptly after winning it and sent off HL2EP2 in the same way when it was won...)

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it works well if everyone would be nice ppl.

but oh wait, why does the world goes as it goes?

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its not the same, throwing your game in some gift-eating-soul-not-having machine that will than forward that gift to whatever steam user random number generator picks, or sending your gift personally to the person that happens to be luckiest, and wins it..

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i feel u mate but... this is internet FFS, go and buy a gift and give it to a random ppl on street then, i promise u that will be much more human and u will feel much better than gifting here :D

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So that explains why you're trying to alter how this site works without ever actually gifting anything on it.

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im not trying to alter a shit, and that explains nothing. lawl
just dont understand why they let all this happen:
Giving the chance to create fake giveaways.
Giving the chance to create a giveaway and end up not gifting the game.
Adding the winner to steam and send him an url to hack him with phishing or trojan or keylogger or what fucking ever? And what shocks me the most, its that ur all agree with it :/

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You are exaggerating now.

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hope u get scammed by an url, then u would understand that. (i didnt neither)

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Thanks.Very mature.

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To my knowledge, nothing even remotely like that has happened. You can only make three giveaways max until you've done giveaways that went smoothly already. At best, someone trying something like this could get three e-mail addresses to try and send something to, chosen completely at random. They really wouldn't even be as much of a threat as the tons of 419 scams that land in people's e-mail every day. Those people at least have huge lists of random addresses to try, not just three. If you have an e-mail address and you get spam there, you're probably already at greater risk than you are from this site. On top of all this, this place pretty much runs on kindness and goodwill. Giving things away for free rarely goes hand in hand with scamming people unless the free stuff is a lie to lure the mark.

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im pretty agree with you.

but the point is that almost everyone knows about mail spam or can distinguish a bot from a human bean, so its easier to fall on something like that if a guy adds u on steam and talks nice to you saying ur the winner of his giveaway. Lot of ppl never won anything here so they dont know how it works, since FAQ doesnt gives much info about it.

i hope im not right, but i think things like that are a mine for scammers.

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''FAQ doesnt gives much info'' Have you really read it?The FAQ is giving enough info to know how to send a gift or how to redeem one.You can get hacked even if you haven't won a giveaway.

FAQ: ''Don't download stupid keygens or don't click on that link because you can get hacked''?

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  1. first of all, most of ppl doesnt read the FAQs at all

  2. they are quite hidden since are not a main theme of the mainpage ( u gotta look for em down the website on small title)

  3. thats all what FAQs say about it:

How will I know I've won?

A green banner with a winning message will appear on each page of SteamGifts.com while you are logged in on your account. Clicking on the link in the green banner will redirect you to the winning giveaway. SteamGifts.com does not currently notify the winners of giveaways in any other fashion.

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''Adding the winner to steam and send him an url to hack him''

And as far as i know,you can't get hacked just by clicking on a link.

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And if you're given a URL... well, who the fuck would click it? I don't know of any way to gift with a URL.

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MCVAGINA would definitely click it.

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this.

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as ive allrdy said not everyone is so cleaver as u are, this system just gives an scammer the chance to do that.

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u dont know so far then

and anyway, phishing its not that obvious for everyone, once more hope u get caught on smth like that

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Adding a bot on SG won't stop the hackers from all across the internet.

''MCVAGINA:once more hope u get caught on smth like that''

Thanks,I really appreciate it.I wish the best for you.

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1) You can have the gift now, or buy it AFTER the giveaway ends. You also can't have a CD key in your inventory or any other way to prove you have it.

2)No.

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thats how it works now.

im not asking how it works now, i was wondering why it doesnt works like id said.

anyway im starting to get why it cant be like that (even if it would be much better), thx to wbarton, and memoscorp

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what is game

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this is game?

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I think it's against's steam's policy to own more than one account and to have one act as a bot, but let's say this is a account being driven by a person. This person needs to have a (huge) list of winners and the list of giveaways, not only that he needs to be on the account 24/7. :|

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ive said nothing about any alter acc. I thoguht about an internal method to do this well done. Once someone said steamgifts its not related with steam, i got answered to my question.

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It's not against the SSA to have more than 1 account. Why you think people don't get banned once they make a second acc after they got VAC banned?
It's allowed to have them till you don't abuse their giveaways(Steam ones)

13 years ago
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I have a hard time reading anything after "Created by MCVAGINA."

13 years ago
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ye my english sux, sorry for not speaking ur native language correctly you lords of the world.

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I meant your name, friend.

13 years ago
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in fact i wanted to be E = MC VAGINA, but u cant use "=" for nickname.

jon lajoie ftw...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvjDr8KKtsE

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I think it's the "vagina" part that's the issue.

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I didn't even notice his name after I read it like 12 times...now I know what I was reading thanks to you guys xD

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ye i guess it must offend when ppl got a nickname with smth u never saw before

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Oooh, touchy. He's not offended, he just finds it hilarious...as do I.

And I'm a lady, so I've definitely seen vaginae before.

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Part of the issue is that, well, it sounds like something a giggling twelve-year-old with use as a name. Given the "lol, you've never seen one" maturity of that response, +1 to that theory.

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ye call me a kid for that and all u want guys, i love stupid humor, and as ive allrdy said its just a wink to Jon Lajoie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvjDr8KKtsE

which for sure u will find hilarious, offensive, giggling, inmature and so stupid.

he's just one step forward on ur mentality

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I couldn't get through even a minute of that shite. I'm no stranger to immature humour, but for the love of god, it has to be immature humour. The only thing funny about that video was his outfit. My opinion of you just dropped considerably further.

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quoteing myself: "which for sure u will find hilarious, offensive, giggling, inmature and so stupid."

"My opinion of you just dropped considerably further."

who cares bro

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No-one, I expect. I just felt like mentioning it.

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Regardless of how you do it no one would trust it who is Giving Away games. If someone who is getting free games for nothing doesn't trust a giveaway maker, no loss, but if the giveaway makers don't trust a system that could Easily be used by Steamgifts to steal hundreds of games at any given time... No giveaways will be made.

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then u dont trust the website? thats another option, but now THATS exaggerating imo.

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The last time a bot controlled something, Wall-E almost died and lost his memory and the chubsters almost never made it back to Earth.

Do you want something like that to happen on Steam gifts? I didn't think so.

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And Louis keeps startling the Witch!

13 years ago
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Worst trolling attempt

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lawl the tribe against me for saying it would be cool if there was a more safe way to do all this

thx god this is a charity website where everyone is nice, looks like u are a sect of scientology and i just blasphemed against ur leader

TOPIC ITS DONE

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what is this i dont even

13 years ago
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Make up your mind. Are you trying to alter how the site works or not?

Your idea was full of holes and people pointed that out to you. You got uppity about it. Not our fault.

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im not trying to alter anything, and im not bringing here a project to do so.

the answer was just WHY IT DOESNT WORKS LIKE THAT?

the only ones with constructive answers were Memoscorp,wbarton and YOU on ur first entry.

i dont mind ppl saying whats wrong on what im asking, thats exacly why i created this post with that question.

The only reasons why my idea wasnt good is cuz steam got nothing related with steamgifts (which i didnt knew), and maybe for some problems to apply that (which are nothing related with bots or else, a program and a database well done would be enough)

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Your original post was phrased in a "why" way, yes, and I don't have an issue with that. Most of your others, however, were in a very distinct "let's do it my way."

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i specified several times upon the whole post, my intentions are not to alter anything, just asking.

if ppl start taunting me for it or answering rude, ill take that way too.

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"looks like u are a sect of scientology"

HE FOUND OUT OUR SECRET

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no ur a reverse scientologist lawl

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Do you know how many admins are here? 1
Do you know how many mods are here? Do you know what they do? they mod the forums.

What you're asking is for someone to be 24/7 available for someone to send a gift, and if there is only ONE single problem, it all relies on the mod or admin who took the gift, in the end briging more problems than solutions.

This usually works when we're talking about a trade of keys, you use a middleman, someone both can trust, but on this case, its too complex.

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dunno what problem might be when everything its automatic and so ez as "create gift-keep gift-send gift to winner"

but thx for ur CONSTRUCTIVE answer!

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Because when everything is automatic, that "automatic" needs constant checkup, even more than the site already has atm, then you have the possible conflict of having Steam look at the "bot account" and the incredible amount of transactions it has made, and i can bet pretty much anyone would think there's something fishy going on, so imagine later on explaining to steam support that you have a site dedicated to "trading", where everything goes by one or several bot accounts (to which could or not be associated to a single IP = more problems in the end), and COULD lead to the suspension of that account in particular, or even worse, that IP.

Just a small example, hope i was clear enough :D

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lawl ok

so it seems there MUST be a bot acc to do all that. another real point against my wondering

ty again, it was mate.

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Why not create an automatic food maker to solve world hunger?
its so ez as "create food-give food to huntry-eat food" lawl

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Maybe we shouldn't complain about a system that give you free things? If someone makes a fake giveaway, sure it may be annoying but it's not as if you actually lost anything.

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ffs im not complaining lawl, i was just wondering why does it actually dont works like that.

not complaining,
not trying to alter it,
just motherfucking asking

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You go ahead and reverse engineer the Steam client, code up a custom client that automatically accepts trades for incoming items, activates a custom script that verifies the winner from the site and then automatically trades the item to the winner.
We'll wait.

lawl

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Translation of OP:

OP is asking why sg isn't used as a middleman that holds the gift till a winner is chosen.

Solution: None, here's why. SG has no connection to Steam other than sign in and thus would have no way of getting the games. Also they would have to validate the gifts, bundles or illusive keys... Now lets look at how many games are given away.

TL;DR because

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Hey i know you. Weren't you the guy who won my World Basketball Manager giveaway and then tried to put it in your inventory "to gift it to your brother" instead of activating it on your account. I knew i know you from somewhere

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Closed 13 years ago by MCVAGINA.