So I guess they will be like over 5K$? Good deals! I'll get two!
Are these guys even serious? And yes I don't believe in the graph to happen just by next year, sorry, maybe in 2030 or so? I still remember buying my 100GB HDD for 100$ like 10-15 years back, that will most likely repeat.
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Outer Limits ----> Aliens -----> Army ----> Companies -------> Pirates ----> Home Users
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It doesn't matter, really. Unless you imply they've ONLY made it for enterprise. :P Pretty sure it's already on the test for general market, wouldn't be surprised to see a faster SATA interface soon. Regardless, my main point still stays, I still find graph a total lie. If SSD had the potential to be improved so fast in the time and meanwhile keep the prices just as low, I'd expect a faster early development, which wasn't the case.
It hit up for a hype when they first hit 100GB, and now they're talking of jumping OVER A FEW TBs. I don't find it appealingly right. :P
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There isn't even anything common between a USB stick and an SSD besides their capacity unit, almost... Their general structure is different, their read/write values vary really apart, e.g. SATA3 running at 6Gb/s for SSDs, and USB3.0 running at 480Mb/s. And both have alot more interfaces that changes the maximums reached.
An SSD can run on USB, SATA, SCSI/SAS, PCI x1/PCI x2/PCI x4/PCI x8, M.2, mSATA, do mind me if I forgot a few. But regardless, is why they're called by their storage type name, because they have many purposes in use. On other hand, USB sticks are also grouped in Flash Drives, however they're referenced by their interface because they're made for only a few usable purpose. Which is also why the storage structure doesn't matter and hence, you can have half a thumb USB stick at 32GB but on the inside, it'll be actually a MicroSD reader into USB interface.
TL;DR; They do not share the same structure or purpose.
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http://www.extremetech.com/computing/181809-sandisks-collosal-4tb-ssd-does-this-mean-ssds-will-soon-provide-more-storage-than-hard-drives.
"But finally, there’s price. Seagate’s SAS 10K 2.5-inch drive is $650 for 1.2TB. Seagate’s 800GB SAS SSD, in contrast, retails for $6600. We can assume that SanDisk might get aggressive on pricing, but unless the company utterly blows its cost curve this 4TB SSD could easily run more than $10,000".
And that's just 4TB, so $20k for 8TB. and $1 million for 400TB. :p
Probably it will be just as HDD's that they will drop in price and will take a bunch of years so they will become affordable.
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I think they already have the technology to release the larger SSD's, they just want to roll them out slowly to make more money. I am waiting for m.2 and nvme to come down in price. The speed of these drives are great, but price is a little high still. 2 GB/s read and 1.5 GB/s write. Would be nice if they could get the iops higher though. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147425&cm_re=samsung_m.2-_-20-147-425-_-Product
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"I think they already have the technology to release the larger SSD's, they just want to roll them out slowly to make more money. "
Rolling technology out more slowly has never been a good way to make more money.The issue is more about optimizing production lines to bring the production costs down - which in itself can take a few years and a few million $ worth of investments.
But until that happens, there's no way to sell to consumers at a price point they're willing to pay, and make a healthy profit off your product.
That's why they are selling to the Enterprise business first, those are folks willing to pay the current costs, as they will get an immediate and tangible return on investment that makes it worth it.
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that's awesome. i hope normal drives will completely vanish soon (with the next few years). i already have my third ssd. a 1GB one this time. and it's so good to be able to have all installed softwared on the ssd. never want to go back. ^^
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I still prefer tu use hard disk drives to store data, they are more relaiable for it, ssd are actually perfect to OS sistems and programs not really for storing data, if I'm not wrong they tend to lose data without energy , so i think too much space is not really useful ok maybe for a mega Steam library :P ,
actually i'm with a 120gb ssd and i still have space, but i use a dedicated hard drive for steam library.
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that's the point. with 120GB you can store windows and a few programs on it. but no games, considering modern games often use up like 30+ GB. i paid more for my ssd than for my graphics card, but in my opinion it was worth it, just for the games. ^^
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on my ssd I just install one big game each time, till I end it, the other games I play are littel ones, they dont use much bandwidth,anyway with a dedicated disk all the bandwidth will end in the game itself ad not on the other os applications :)
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that's the difference between us. i always start playing games, promise myself to finish them eventually - and suddenly i have 30 big titles installed at the same time. ^^
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heheheh i know it's hard, when u stop just for a bit a game it's hard to restart, i have two games in standby actually XD, still cant find the force to restart to play them to get to the end :/
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i play Castlevania LoS for like a year now. and every few months, i start playing again and get a few hours done, before another game is more interesting. i finished maybe 80% now, and next time i play it i''ll probably finish it - finally. xD
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Then you put your most played games on it or get a bigger drive,250gigs can be had for around 100 now.That should be plenty for your most played games and windows,Windows 10 takes up less resources and hd space so you could save more by upgrading to 10.
Why do people say the down side to a SSD is limited space like it is the end of the world if they can not fit all games on it,If i wanted to fit all my games on SSD i would need at least 3TB
After all most games see little bonus of having them on SSD since they are not really built for SSD in mind and streaming texture are limited to what older hd can handle,but they can help with games with mods and a some times a big boost in loading though i find that more with older games like Half-Life and so on or games that relied on cd streaming and such.
I can not wait for every pc to have ssd and games are built for bigger texture streaming and so on with the faster access from SSD so we will not be limited to say around 60mb of what mechanical drives can handle.
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Then you put your most played games on it or get a bigger drive,250gigs can be had for around 100 now.
i think you confuse me with the other guy. i am the one who said he has a 1TB SSD. i have all my games on there and still plenty of space left. ^^
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that's the point. with 120GB you can store windows and a few programs on it. but no games, considering modern games often use up like 30+ GB. i paid more for my ssd than for my graphics card, but in my opinion it was worth it, just for the games. ^^
I was replying to that and that you said 120GB can only store windows and a few programs and no games which is not true yeah it will only hold a couple games depending on size and such but it will still hold Windows and some programs and games. is all i was trying to say and just to many say it not enough when it can be.Not everyone has games that take up a ton of space.If i was to add my most played games on Steam i could put quiet a few of them on a 120gb SSD.
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Then you put your most played games on it or get a bigger drive,250gigs can be had for around 100 now.
That was not directed at you but me speaking in general,if you need more space get more space,but i still think 120gb is a good start for someone on the fence about SSD and a good way to see how much they will they will gain before jumping all in with a huge SSD.As at this point the only real big advantage is almost instant windows boot and programs loading much faster,but for most games there is little impact on load time unless you are real anal on every little second.
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SSD's will lose data without power, but from what I have read it won't be a problem unless it has been unplugged for about 2 years (depending on storage temperature and these tests were done on worn out drives which fail sooner). The same thing will happen with a HDD, but I have read that they last around 8 years before you have to worry about anything.
Also, I think the reliability of modern ssd's is pretty good. The 850 Pro has a 10 year warranty. I don't think any HDD manufacturer offers a warranty over 5 years.
With that said, it doesn't make sense to use ssd's for storage unless you have a lot of money or run a business that needs quick access to storage. This will change in a couple years though.
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yeah but when u have 8 tb i think it will end in storage use :D
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I agree, I just meant right now it doesn't make sense because of the price. That's why I said in a couple years it will change. Even if 8 TB drives are released in 2016 they will still be too expensive to use for most people, but in a couple years the prices should fall to the point where HDD's are obsolete. And then a year after that we will probably have 16 TB drives and then 32... Cell phones recording in 4k and 8k games will need a lot of space.
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It is alright i do it sometimes to after all we are human well most of us anyhow lol
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Actually SSD is the best option for backups depending on how much you need to store,as when SDD hit end of life they become read only so you can still access the data on the drive,just no more writes,unless it totally dies but any storage device can do that.If you have important stuff that can not be lost SSD is the best solution,and lets face it,how many people really have 100's of gigs of stuff that can not be replaced? I am betting most people do not have that much just photos and important docs and such.
I would say for general backup a mechanical hd should be just fine like if you keep a backup of your OS or Steam Games in case things go wrong and you do not want to deal with re-downloading a bunch of games and so on.
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That sounds a little soon. The 2TB 850 Evo is supposed to sell for $800, you can get a 2TB HDD for $70. I don't think the price will fall that far in 1.5 years. Maybe by the end of 2017.
Edit: I'm just guessing, I really have no idea, lol.
Edit 2: The $800 price may be a little higher than they will really sell for considering you can buy a 1TB now for $338.
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"Back in May 2014 HEXUS covered the news of Sandisk's launch of its Optimus MAX Serial Attached SCSI (SAS) solid state drive (SSD) with a capacity of 4TB. This is an enterprise focussed drive, sold at a breakthrough price point. At that time a SanDisk marketing executive told ComputerWorld that this 4TB drive was "just the beginning" and we should expect to see a doubling of capacity every year or two. Well it's turned out that it won't be a year, it will be two."
http://hexus.net/tech/news/storage/84980-sandisk-6tb-8tb-ssds-coming-2016/
Never knew they were this far ahead already, i wonder what the prices will be though. So will we have 100-500TB by 2030? :p
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