if Blizzard games could be bought on Steam, a part of the profit would go to Valve. Since you can buy Blizzard games only through Battle.net, they can keep all of the money... :)
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I honestly did not know they "Blizzard" acquired Sierra Entertainment.. I am sad now.. I loved the SWAT series. All my dreams for SWAT 5 just died seeing that.
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Well, that checkered past came from before Activision merged with Blizzard. (It goes all the way back to the first versions of Counterstrike.)
And from what I understand, that's mostly Vivendi messing things up behind the scene. Vivendi screwing things up consisteltly is also the reason ActiBlizz went independent from them again...
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Ah, in your opinion do you think Activision or Blizzard will ever do a Swat 5? or you think all hope was lost when Sierra died?
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Hopefully.. But, Unlikely for Call of Duty to ever die down.. Release a new map..call it a new game.. and everyone seems to think its a new game. and unfortunately people will keep paying for it.
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as long as they keep making it fun, they'll keep selling them. although Ghosts is the first CoD I refuse to buy for that very reason. Campaign is short, uninteresting, and all over the place with no real coherent plot while the multiplayer is just meh. Hell, even the alien mode, which seemed pretty cool for all of five minutes, got boring fast. It's like Infinityward tried to make a treyarch-ish game by taking battlefield 3's god-awful campaign writing, mixing the bare minimum of the decent gameplay mechanics from Modern warfare, and tacking on a Nazi zombie knockoff mode for filler. Honestly, modern warfare and black ops 1/2 had great stories by themselves because of their respective developers, IW should have just stuck with heir own formula. Although, it occurs to me that they probably ran out of creative juices after MW and were hoping their past success would push them through this time without any real effort going into it.
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Call of Duty Modern Warfare 1 Was great.. Unfortunately, when the second one came out and it moved into a sorta futuristic gadget feeling..especially with the movement sensors found in the aliens games. I decided to up and quit the Call of Duty games as they completely moved away from the story telling and just went into the pure shootem up direction.. with absolutely nothing distinguishing it from any other shooter game.
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I have no idea. Possibly it's because they want to keep control of content rollouts and patches, etc. They've also created their own Battle.net launcher for their games, and the website functions as a store. I'm sure having them on Steam would increase sales, but marginally. They aren't an indie company that needs to be on Steam to be discovered, and even if they were on it there's no chance in hell they'd be participating in major sales. They keep the value of their games high, and they're bought regardless. Also, they've had a few lawsuits, maybe they don't like each other much. ;)
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honestly I think being on steam would reduce their profits due to the cuts steam takes and all the people who want their game library on steam but still enjoy blizzard games and buy them still(so instead of buying on battle.net for X, they buy it on steam for the same X)
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Blizzard ... I think they're doing OK. Their games sell decent - apparently.
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Yeah, for their fanboys, but not for ordinary steam users
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Not for ordinary steam users? Do you have any proof of this? I am gonna call bs.
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Do you have any proof that there're more blizz fanboys than steam users?
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people, they have most people[accounts] but a lot of other play on private servers
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"During Activision Blizzard's most recent quarter, World of Warcraft subscriptions dropped by about 100,000, the company announced today. That brings the game's total subscription base to 7.6 million players as of September 30, 2013."
And how many was Steam audience?
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yea, now get me numbers from those private servers all around the world...yea, they dont get money from them...yes, wow is falling but its still very popular and played game and will be one of the most popular games all time...and before you say Im a fanboy, a barely played wow or any of their other non-classic games, except hearthstone, which is/will be f2p
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Well, if we start counting non off servers , then we need to count all steam accs
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So, do you like to use origin, uplay, kalypso, battle.net and tons of other shitty DRMs?
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I noticed, but i personally think we shouldn't be fanboys of anything, or defend bad decisions of a company or something bad for the users, if you like it use i, if you don't, you can try to change it, but for gods sake don't get Stockholm syndrome
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they are more like robots...they can't admit someone can have different taste or opinions...they're like why u can't like this program with milions of users and u like origin, uplay or battle.net which are cheap copies of steam...but no one can enter their mind and fix their engine. I guess it's called the Flock syndrome.
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Diablo 3 is pretty fun if you don't think of it as a Diablo game. I played it off my cousin's account since he didn't want to play it anymore. The game is fun to play, but it isn't what it should have been. I realized about half way through the game if you don't think it's a Diablo game then it's better.
Starcraft is an amazing RTS. WoW is terrible since I hate the P2P model. It's outdated and as you can see WoW is falling. Hearthstone looks interesting, but I haven't been able to get a beta key for so long even though I signed up for beta a long time ago.
Does this mean I'm a fanboy? Because I enjoy the products they release I'm a fanboy? I can call you a steam fanboy since you think that anyone who uses something but steam is a fanboy.
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"I know a bunch of trolls are going to say that blizzard games sell just fine. Which they do"
How exactly does this make the people trolls?
Anywho they already have battle.net and they're a huge company they don't need to rely on Steam. You have no proof they'll sell more copies on Steam than on Battle.net or in retail.
They simply don't want to put their games on steam that's the short version.
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Never said I had proof.
And, I just meant people trying to get a rise out of other people. I just meant they were going to be people that say if Blizzard sells 100 Million copies of Starcraft 2 on Battle.net and they decided to put it on the Steam store that they are going to say it will only sell about 5 copies.
Truth be told. I have both StarCrafts and World of WarCraft. If either or all were on Steam. I would purchase them full-price again. Just, Because I like Steam's Client better. Just my opinion though.
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He is saying. Money talks.. and most likely Blizzard will start shoving out a bunch of DLC and comfort packs for $0.50 and essentially become the next EA.
That is the jest of what I got from his post. Am I right?
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Auto-correct. But, it fits my name perfectly.
Anyway, I was putting what the guy above me said into context.
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Guys, do you think these huge publishers refuse Steam DRM for no particular reason and because they don't want extra customers?
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Steam DRM is not as bad as most of the DRM out there.. I think it boils down to some companies just dislike other companies..
Hence the whole dlc fiasco with Valve and EA has now gotten EA to never put another single game on steam besides expansion packs.. they refuse to put any of there new titles on there.
and regarding the Blizzard thing. One person above was talking about how Valve and Blizzard had a couple law suits..so that could of hurt relationships as well.
Still, I'd like to see at least the first StarCraft on Steam.
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Yeah, maybe Blizzard was offended by Valve, but....money looks like more solid reason
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Because they feel they are known enough that they can afford to not be on Steam. Remember that if you are on Steam, a huge part of your sales will go through Steam, and it will cut into your profits. Also, all micro-transactions have to go through Steam (with some exceptions). If you sell your own game, you will get every single $.
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Thanks, have you something to say without offtopic?
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HaHa..EA don't give a shit about u :)) It's not their fault u have a wood pc mwhahahahahhaha
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Same here! Lets party!
On a serious note.. am I the only Battle.net player who will buy blizzard games full price on Steam if only given the chance?
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Yeah, better check facts before saying something.
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I'm sure their back catalog would sell like hotcakes on Steam, however Blizzard Entertainment (which is actually a company under Activision Blizzard that holds the rights to Diablo, StarCraft and WarCraft series) has always been very protective of their IPs.
I could never see them working with EA and DotA 2 is gaining popularity while "Heroes of the Storm" (their version of a DotA follow-up) has yet to be released so, probably a bit bitter at Valve =p.
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I think their games already sell so much that they don't give a shit about steam. Nowadays, you can still easily find the boxed version of Warcraft III and Diablo 2 (I saw them in the local supermarket, next to Black Flag et Ghosts) meaning it always sells very good. They can be protective because their sales are huge, just like Minecraft or LoL.
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On a unrelated side note.. Anyone looking forward to Watch_Dogs? And, Anyone pissed off that it has been delayed till June 2014?
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Why would I be pissed off they're holding it back, thereby giving it more time to be a better game?
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I wouldn't really call it a DRM client exactly. The DRM is all built into the way the games function. It's really nothing but a tool for launching and keeping track of updates. All of their games that are available on it are already protected by the fact that they keep so much data server-side.
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Amazing, they might have done something that is in large part just for user benefit. As you pointed out, it's just a launcher. All their games already have their DRM in the form of always on DRM. Which is why the note on the bottom right made me facepalm seeing how no games (or features I can think of) are useable offline.
That means Blizzard gets very little benefit from making the launcher. Just some advertising of "oh look, we have other games than the one(s) you play. Plus you know you really want to play WoW again." sort of thing.
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Yea, you're right. Blizzard should have released Diablo III on Steam.
Maybe then it would have been the most pre-ordered game of all time, or even possibly broken the one-day PC sales record.
I'm being sarcastic of course, but you do have a valid point. Blizzard makes their money up front whereas Steam has shown that by keeping games easily accessible on the store and subject to regular sales these games can continue to make money after their initial launch...not to mention the fact that online distribution negates a lot of the distribution costs associated with boxing games and having 3rd party stores sell them.
To be honest I think both approaches have worked. Blizzard relies heavily on the hype for their games and it's been successful so far. I will say this: most companies I've seen release games up front (S2 I'm looking at you) tend to stop supporting their gamers and lean toward a pay-to-play (or worse, a play-to-win) approach whereas Blizzard more or less hasn't...barring, of course, their ill-advised attempt at curbing third party auction houses by implementing their own.
A little off topic, but I'm confused by your "trolls will say they sell just fine"? Are you implying that Blizzard games don't sell well? Or just a misuse of the word "troll"?
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lean toward a pay-to-play (or worse, a play-to-win) approach
I'm guessing you meant pay-to-win, because to me play-to-win sounds quite fine. :P
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Ummm..EA gave support to their customers pretty good...+ what problems do u have with Origin?
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lol at the EA support thing... i have had two 6 hour conversations with them whilst they tried telling me to do something i had already done before contacting them... in the end google saved me after searching through maybe 200 or so help threads...
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Because Blizzard is rich and big enough to make their own business and this way they don't have to pay a share to another publisher. It's not like there is any kind of obligation to be on Steam besides the majority of the smaller companies just make a better business there compared to selling their games on their own page.
Of course there is also a lot of danger when a company like Valve is in an almost monopolized position, but neither does anyone here want to hear about this, nor do I want to discuss the problems with them, would be pointless anyway.
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As long as they don't make their own version of Steam/Origin/Uplay for their games, I'm fine with it. Besides, you can add a shortcut to steam if you want to.
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um, nope? I don't have to install and run any special programs to play my games.
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I've been using it for awhile, and it doesn't feel like an additional program. It's a launcher. There's no store front, it's not trying to get me to buy something, it doesn't try getting me to connect facebook or spam me with stuff my friends have been doing.
It keeps the games up to date, gives me the patch notes, a recent news story, and tells me which of my friends are currently logged into the game I have selected.
I suppose it might be the same basic thing, but it definitely doesn't feel like having to use Origin to launch SimCity.
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Right now every game has its own Launcher, but a unified Battle.net client is in beta right now, I'm already using that - and you will be too after the beta ends (or if you get a Hearthstone beta key).
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That's because Battle.net was long before Steam came out. + I vote for Origin as a better game platform then Steam.
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why do u think all games should be on Steam? I guess not all publishers want to share money with Valve, who made shit games!
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Counter-Strike: Global Offensive
442 hrs on record
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And? U wanna say that it's a good game just because i have 442 hours in 2 years? WTF!
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Dude...I have friends that I play with...if they weren't i never bought it...And i don't beleieve playing a game make it a good game, it's just that u spend some money and u can't just let it on ur library.
U can call CS GO a good game when u aim to the head with a awp and the bullet din't even hit him? Are u serious? CS a good game? The only good games Valve make are Portal, Dota 2 and Half-Life.
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man ur retard...i said that only good games Valve make are Dota 2, Half-Life and Portal...but ur too retard to understand that! I said it too that i play games like CS with my friends but ur again too retard to understand.
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I will never start learn english because i don't wanna live in US or UK and becasue i learn other language but ur shit head can't understand that in this world are different type of man...And Valve do shit games...why u crying so much, if u love them good for u...i guess ur not gona die just because i say Valve = Shit...as i didn't die because u say EA = Shit...It is my point...I don't like Valve games ...can u stop crying?
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I admit I did drag this discussion to very lowels, but man stop pulling it further down.
Nobody claimed you need to live in the US or UK to speak English. How about you start actually reading what I am writing and responding accordingly, rather than just random insults and butthurt expressions.
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Saying something like that makes u an idiot with no personality...it's not my fault i have different taste from u. WTF u wanna say, all of us should love Valve games?
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and WTF it's ur problem that i don't like Valve games? Are u really hurt? Are u crying because i said that?
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I don't mind real criticism, but I assume the reason you say Valve made bad games is simply because you are a tasteless comsumer.
If you come up with facts about why you dislike their games I don't mind accepting that.
Also, who said anything about being butthurt, I just think you are stupid that's all.
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Mr Trucker...U think a great game like Valve can have such bugs? U think u can aim with AWP on head and the bullet miss the target like going thru head without make any damage? Or not die by a grenade, and take 3 bullets to head before u die(Except AK and M4)?
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What latency did you have when experiencing the AWP on head thing? Keep in mind Source also has Bulletflighttime (very very low, but it exists). The other arguments you have are not bugs, and arguing about the realism of video games is pretty pointless, especially if they aren't even trying to be a simulation.
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Dear SteamGifts,
This may be a absolutely stupid question. But, why is there not a single Blizzard game on Steam or Origin? I would think there games would sell even better then they do now. Especially StarCraft 2. I know a bunch of trolls are going to say that blizzard games sell just fine. Which they do, I am just saying they would sell a lot more copies then for people who want to rely on Blizzards store or retail copies as a way of getting the game.
What is all of your opinions on this?
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