If you are a heartless person without any conscience... yes you can. But you'll be hated by all the internet and you'll never be happy.... ever!
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You wouldn't have internet access if you'd be needing Child's play. So, yeah. Heartless person.
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You'd need internet to get the games. Doubt you'd have a decent computer to play any games in a library...
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Dude your FOS the library logic doesn't fly. First off most lib comps aren't there for gaming, they are there for research on the internet and most don't come with gaming capabilities. the other side of it is that you can't install the games, and if you did you a double POS for doing it as guy above stated.
Lastly you are scum for ripping off a charity plain and simple. The option is there for scum to prove that they are scum and to show if gamers are scum. GJ just buy for .01 and go to your moms basement knowing that you are scum. I've said it many times I will hide my disregard for people who abuse charities.
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Also, if you'll soon be needing help from charity, you'd better be looking for a job than playing games on a computer you shouldn't even have if you need money that badly.
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Childs Play is the charity smart wiz. Think a child is gonna get a job real easy?
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im talking about a teen like me in a hole(israel) no paypal who worked alot and earned mmm 400$ in summer so yes i have life there there are other games and music and the child's play is cinda over not having money but when i start my utube revenu i will give back to humble bundle more for each bundle..
i canot ask my mom to buy me this i canot ask friends to buy more than avg cuz they also cant cuz fucing israel so yes when i will have money on paypal i will give but now i have no way to give a lot.. and yes i know how sucky it is so i will contribute more for all bundels i will get till than..
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My statement was referring to anyone, really. I am a teen as well, I get less money in a year than you make in a Summer, and I don't have a credit or debit, not to mention my paypal is usually barren (99% of the time). However, since these are so cheap, I simple give my parents the average (or as much as I can/am willing to pay, at least $1+, $.01 makes me feel as if I'm stealing) and use their credit card to go through with the transaction.
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Then you aren't the issue. Although the fact that A) you have access to a camp that can run these games and B) the fact that one can even pay means that they are able to abuse. What ever fool founded logic one can find to take advantage is FOS in my book. If you do live a place where, like you said, is a hole then I ask these questions:
Having been in locations where one can try and call a "hole" as you put it life is about survival, not gaming. Most people living in an area like a "hole" as you say don't really waste time on games, let alone can afford a computer. Why do you have all the spare time to be browsing these forms?
Also: how can one even buy the bundle without a credit card or PayPal? If you use credit card then you have to pay credit cards fees over 5$ so you can afford to pay more therefor you logic hooped again what do you say to that?
I know people who live in third world countries kid. you are a) in a place to pay or b) don't have the time to play video games.
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It's still not stealing, stealing is, well, stealing. Taking something without permission. Stealing is illegal. Buying Humble Bundles for $0.01 is just frowned upon. (Plus you now get extra games if you beat the average so why wouldn't people beat it if they feel they can afford it, it's a bargain)
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for both of u..
im not saying im in a place i need to survive for every single moment and stuff like this and im not i got not that much little money but still i as a person and as a lot of others dont have paypal or cc and thier parents don't want them to buy it to them or canot buy it(i know that not will make my parents fall but yet pay pal take a lot of money and scumbeg banks take loads of more money if u have less 0 on money in the bank acc..)
first thing i do when next year after i will work all summer and get visa is adding more money for each bundle of myne.. but yes there are people that not much able to pay not right now and i guess not in year.. u cant tell if u dont know every single person who bought it and his story..
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yeah we got that, but still your going on and on but your feeding the idea that it's justified, but it isn't and If I were to say, for instance that you were right. Which your not. I mean to try and say that you cannot pay 5$ for around say at least 60$ worth of games is kinda sass. That and other people will take that as an excuse too. Which means your trying to lobby for the rest of the scum out there.
You've made you choice. I mean no one's gonna ban you you may/may not add to the bundle at a later date. The idea is is that at the moment you have brought down the average and taken advantage of an opportunity.
You have the privilege to pay .01 for a bundle, but in doing so you steal from a charity. You may have only a penny to your name that's fine but that means you can't buy the bundle b/c it means you don'[t have the 3-5 dollars to top off a credit card or the dollar processing fee. Dude face it no matter how far you stretch it, it doesn't add up. ANYONE and I mean ANYONE who pays .01 for a humble bundle is scum.
You are saying you'll pay more then once you do your not but at the moment you are scum. It's about taking from a Charity that is why. If you can justify that then hold it to yourself. I know people who have nothing and fight every day to get what they need to survive, Where they are killed for opening up their voice. In Somalia where no one really play much video games. Dude you can make up a long story of how someone has made you buy it for a penny it's still an transaction that has cost money to a charity and as such lessened the amount that other will get from that charity- even if it is 35 cents- is still not right. Now you can say OK I will top it off but I'm not gonna say aww poor baby let me hold you hand b/c that will justify other to buy it for a penny and that ain't gonna happen. What you do later is on you. for me: all people who rip off this charity are scum, I got three for 25$. That means as hard as I worked to earn that 75$ to donate to this charity there are people out there taking some of that money back.
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Thread: Is HB 0.01?
long arguement about that one cent
didn't know it would take out from charity
takes up entire pagewow #whoa
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Technically, they are losing money if you buy at a penny. Between credit card or Paypal processing, hosting the website, the bandwidth involved, their live support, and the charities and developers not being able to take a cut... yeah, you can buy it for a penny, but you might as well stamp "greedy fool" on your forehead.
Note: Especially considering this bundle is worth almost $100. Probably the best $5 I've spent since Dungeons of Dredmor.
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He's calling them fools because one cent sales are actually taking money away from the developers and charity meaning pirating is a less damaging way of acquiring the game.
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What annoys me isn't as much the people buying them for a penny, who do damage but normally are offset by the big givers, but the people who buy multiple copies for a penny to sell for scrap. I see a lot of people do this on the Steam trading. The people who buy a huge ammount of copies for cheap to give away are slightly better due to having better motives, but still do a lot of damage as well.
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Because not taking things at face value and choosing to question the world around you from time to time makes you a conspiracy nut.
I guess it's no wonder things are the way they are. If no one questions anything then things hardly have an incentive to be fixed or improved.
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then you help a fraudulent charity and get 7 sweet games. But b/c of who is running it I doubt it. Do some research people. It's the dammed red cross first off. And if you think Child's play charity is a fraud you are a fool. It's one of the best ones out there.
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It's possible if you're a gigantic cunt who can't spare $5 for charity and even be rewarded for it.
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Paypal takes 30 cents + 2 percent.
So yeah they lose money.
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Paypal just keeps the cent you give them. Otherwise you could just drain someones account by gifting 1 cent to them over and over, right?
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https://cms.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/?cmd=_render-content&content_ID=merchant/merchant_fees
Not sure how exactly it works but I think Humble losses money on each 1 cent purchase. I could be wrong.
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I think they lose money on indirect expenses (bandwidth etc) but not direct financial transaction (I don't think it'd be legal for Paypal to charge more than the amount of the transaction so that the merchant receives a net negative).
As Downpour said, if this were true you could theoretically bankrupt somebody by having a bot repeatedly giving someone one cent. For a few hundred dollars (relatively cheap for this) you could rack up thousands in charges.
At most they make no money at all, but they don't lose money on every transaction. There's a threshold.
Personally, when buying extra copies (I prefer to make one "real" purchase at full price and then buy copies for token amounts for a few friends of mine that have no way to pay money online), I still pay about $0.50 precisely to offset this. Even the bandwdth costs couldn't be more than a few cents per person, and really, if you can't afford fifty cents you should reconsider buying video games at all...
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No they're not. The creator of the humble bundle spoke out against people pirating the bundle games or sharing their download links with forums.
Basically what he said amounted t, they don't know WHY certain people are pirating or sharing games they can get for themselves for one penny. and as such it would be wrong of them to "crack down" on it. Personally, I buy copies for several friends who can't buy things online. I usually pay a "full" price for myself and pay a token amount for them (and advise them to use BitTorrent or Steam for bandwidth reasons, it's the least I can do). the creator even acknowledged that some people pay a "full" price for a personal bundle and then buy extra copies for token amounts instead of spreading it out.
Putting a minimum purchase would, I think, do more harm than good. AND it would belie their "pay what you want" attitude.
Really, I think Humble's doing just fine either way. They made over a million dollars in the last 24 hours on HIB4. They signed a venture capital deal this year for several million dollars. They're not hurting. And their laissez-faire attitude towards their customers is EXACTLY why I buy from them.
Just, it would hurt them more than it would help them by treating their customers with hostility. Setting minimum prices (the average price is a little over $5, which means fully half of folk spend less than that) on a previously pay-what-you-want model is saying, "We don't trust you to set a price we think is good enough." That kind of message is wholly inconsistent with the whole "humble" part of the humble bundle. What else shouldn't they trust us with? should they saddle us with DRM to prevent us from, say, buying one bundle and sharing the download links, or re-upping the games in torrents?
Oh, wait, now they've suddenly become like all the other distributors out there, lost what made them special and noteworthy, and went bankrupt.
Well at least they're no losing money on one cent sales!
tl;dr version: Kneejerk reactions are rarely sensible. Humble is doing fine.
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uuuuh yes they are. The survey is on gamers and piracy. there is no minimum b/c they are seeing how much people are willing to pay to help charities in the gaming community. and they are seeing how much piracy happene3s with the indie games on the internet after that. putting a min defeats the research. Jeff Rosen of Wolfire Games is the main head concept guy and he's the one doing the the bundle he is using the results to show the patterns of word of mouth and gamers spending habits. They even his pirate bay and sent out a pirated version with the connection "This is an anonymous survey to try to understand why you pirated the Humble Indie Bundle and what we could have done better". Humble's not gonna hurt them but karma is a bitch.
Edit people who spend a penny aren't really customers.
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Oh - you weren't making a statement about Humble going to harm pirates, you were just making a karmic statement in general?
My mistake. I thought you meant Humble was collecting data on people that "abuse" the service so they could do something themselves later.
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Oh yeah if they set a tracker that scanned your comp. I'd never support. Besides there are other companies that do that: Apple or Sony do that all ready. That and most torrents that one would download. those .nfo files are scanning your computer as we speak.
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Oh, it's totally possible, but you know what? Better download these games from torrent or something and stop being pathetic, cheap moron. No, really, if you 'pay' 0,01$ you make more harm than good, so don't do it.
I've bought HIB4 for 10$, mostly because I already had SMB
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mr defiantBlaze, I have one request for you - don't reproduce
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Why do you think there are 100 giveaways from the last bundle? Most of them probably got those for a penny and then pretend to be generous when giving them away here.
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I have noticed that with the introversion bundle. 90% of them said no BTA bonuses. even though you would get the bonuses automatically anyway if you bought below average before the inclusion of the bonuses.
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Pretty sure that the "beat the average" thing was in place from the start this time around though... with the two games as bonuses available immediately. That system makes a lot more sense, as rewarding someone for buying the bundle quickly for 10 cents makes none what so ever.
(not 100% it was there from the start, but I got it pretty quickly this time around and the bonuses where already there)
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If your going to be cheapscake just so you know . CaveStory+ Is fucking awesome and your missing out . Also if you do plan to be a cheapskake and buy bundles cheap , buy them for a dollar or two if you originalyl planned on buying it for a cent , this way you dont harm the bundle in any way becouse if you do pay less than 50 cents it costs THEM money just so you know .
You can still do the '' Buy fullprice for self and buy 1 or 2 cheap ones for your friends '' but that balances itself out so its no harm .
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I've said it a million times but everything would be fixed if it was capped it at one dollar. One dollar is not a lot to lose at all for the quality of the Humble Bundles and stops people spending a dollar to get 100 copies and trying to trade/resell them.
That said it seems like the Humble Bundle is part social experiment and I'm sure they keep the numbers of the amount of people who pay under a dollar.
I'll say this though if you're going to buy five single player games from the Humble for a cent it's better for them and for you to just pirate it. That way you're not clogging up their download servers, you're not clogging up Steam servers and they don't get the (assumed) paypal payment hit.
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It's a great social experiement, there is so much to learn about gamers
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The justifications people make are just hilarious. We're talking about goddamn videogames folks. If you're a 1 center, and you try to justify it with any other reasons beyond "I'm a total creep that wants stuff handed to them," you're lying to yourself.
These are games. Entertainment. Stop feeling so damn entitled, and if you do feel that way at least keep it to your self and be honest with yourself about your motivations.
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Yes, you can buy it for $0.01. It's one of the things that make it so awesome.
And I'm glad that HIB is not run by those guys who shout "cap it at $1" or "you should pay more than $1 or you're not a human being". Really, it wouldn't even get so much publicity then, and probably wouldn't be so successful.
And yes, I can imagine some reasons to pay less than $1 (not that I endorse it). It still would be a better thing to do than to pirate all those games.
You can always increase your order amount later, even when the bundle is finished (although you won't get your bonus games then).
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Sadly enough, if you're going to purchase the bundle for a mere $0.01, the companies would be better off if you pirate the games.
And I'd have to object against the statement of "it wouldn't even get so much publicity then, and probably wouldn't be so successful," I think otherwise.
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If this was the case, the creator of HIB wouldn't openly agitate people to buy the bundle for 1 cent rather than pirate it. He even offered to pay himself for people who really really don't have means to do so.
And it's still beneficial for developers. For instance, even if you buy for 1c, you still spread the word about the bundle, attracting people who would probably pay more. Second, that way people get accustomed to getting something legally, so next time they'll probably think themselves about paying more.
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Just asking if it's possible lol
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