I still dont get how someone can run a big trading site wich in COMPLETELY unmoderated...

It's like fucking wild west...

CG !!! CLOSE THAT SHIT OR GET MODS !!!

What you are doing is unresponsible... and i hope i dont have to explain why... take some time and check it by yourself...

EDIT: seems some people are confused about what i ment with my short rant.. sorry for that...

it's not about SCAMMER, this is like some people say and i think myself well handled with review system... it's about the bad behaviour like swearing, the manipulation or abuse of the review and votingsystem and other things you may have in normal community forums... thanks for reading... :)

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I never got scammed or have big problems myself... when i read the posts here from some people with zero background knowledge then i can just lough... no bad feelings but it's funny...

steamtrades is a fucking mess...

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mods cannot beat common sense. and if you dont have common sense no ammount of mods or whatever will prevent you from being scammed.

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no but they can suspend peopel that abuse review system etc...

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as said use common sense and u wont get scammed. and the cases where u still could get scammed are than cases where moderation will help you nothing.

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it's not about scamming... just read my other posts... its about behaviour and abusing review system for example

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the only thing i care about on a trading site is trading.

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thats not good

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if people would use common sense you'll be OK.. If you're new to steamgifts, don't try to trade full priced AAA games and you won't get scammed.. Build up a reputation as a fair and honest person with bundles.. Then if you really want to move into AAA, it gives you far more leverage and trust to ensure you aren't scammed..

Trade for stuff people aren't likely to scam you with.. Trading cards, refs, keys.. Never use Paypal as too many ways exist to get scammed..

Using common sense. and walking away from deals that seem too good to be true is likely the best medicine you can use.. I have over 1k rep on steamgifts, I've been part of two bad deals.. The first was when a game selling site had a pricing error, I traded for one of the copies of the game and the company revoked all the mispriced games.. The trader refunded me the one key I paid..

The next was for a copy of Xenonauts when it was part of a Humble Bundle a few years back, i traded someone for it, and that game was revoked, they did the same thing to multiple people so they pretty much ruined their reputation all for a few games

Use common sense, and be honest..

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Common sense... :P

cant hear that anymore because people dont use it before posting here...

90% thinks i talk about people getting scammed instead of trying to understand the peoblems of ST... i didnt mentioned them but meh, lil bit brainwork would do magic... moderation is not only about suspend scammer...

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you made a statement I disagree with,, shut down steamgifts because you dislike some aspect of it.. here goes an idea.. don't use it.. Use something else.. Put on the big boy pants and don't trade on there.. Simple solution.. BTW my point of using common sense still stands, if you don't like cursing or other stuff you claim to now like.. use your common sense and stop going there.. if you aren't trading, then what purpose do you have for being there..

As for your intentions, this is the internet bro, can't really tell what your intentions are when you make a blanketed statement, going back after the fact and clarifying what you meant while being dismissive of people who couldn't tell your intentions from your three sentence post.. Maybe next time try to actually clarify what your point is, instead of acting like a prepubescent teenager that hasn't gone through puberty..

you'll tend to make more sense that way.. and won't leave a bunch of people thinking you meant something other than what you meant.. BTW you're just a troll mods on this board should make the place a nicer one by putting you out to pasture..

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sorry but i can just lough about your last post...

  • big boy pants = running away ??? you grew up as chicken or what...?^^

  • never said in dont trade

  • i clarified it when someone misunderstood it and not on a childisch way or else

  • im not a troll, you should know the definition after years of internet...

  • putting out...? seems you got whiny, take your own example and move away if you dont like it... ;)

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you made a post acting like a little kid, weren't clear in what you're issues were in your original post.. So yes.. put on your big boy pants.. act like a man, not a 12 year old girl about to have her first period..

Don't care if you trade or not, your post sounded like something a 12 year old would do for either, attention, or because they were tired of people calling them names.. Pull up your big girl panties, dust the sand out your vageen and be a man..

They misunderstood because your original post was you acting like a crying child.. WAAAA CLOSE DOWN STEAMGIFTS.. WAAAA like relax lady..

I can be a troll when I want to be,, i'm actually being nice right now chippy,, you wouldn't like me when I was trolling, you'd cry worse then you cried in your original post..

I'm good, I was just saying, if you have an issue with trolls, you must hate yourself because this whole series of post by you has been a bunch of crying prepubescent childish ranting.. It reminded me of that time my special needs Nephew thought it would be a great idea to post his picture on a Roast me thread on Reddit..

So grow up, be quiet, you've contributed nothing to the quality of Steamgifts forums, in fact we're all much dumber for having read your incoherent babbling the last day and a half..

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and again, take your big big pants and just go away i dont give me your wannabe mature blabla, stopped after first lines...^^

seems others are mature enough to have a good conversation and even solutions... :3

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I know you stopped reading after the first line, kinda hard to keep on reading when you're add starts to flare up like the 13 year old problem child you are.. I mean reading 6 or 7 sentences is way too much.. I should have kept my conversation to dood speech and internet lingo so your tiny attention span wasn't pushed to it's limits.. I mean your generation can't read more than 140 words or you start to get a headache and can't pay attention..

I guess I can understand it a little you seem to be from Germany, I can understand the frustration knowing your politicians force everything to be censored.. I couldn't deal with living in a society where the most mundane things are censored.. From what I hear, you guys are starting to loosen up soon.. maybe you'll eventually get semi uncensored games in the next 10 years.. I'll keep you in my thoughts homie.. (BTW I'm German-American so It's OK to knock on you for being from Germany homes.. I'm also Polish and it is true,, we have big noses but also big hoses..)

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you just write nonsense and try too look more mature... and germany has no censorship problems anymore, you have zero knowledge... why are you still here and talking you big grown mature man...?^^

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you sound like the type of person who shoves your fingers in your ears and stamps your feet throwing a temper tantrum.. WAAA SHUT DOWN STEAMTRADES.... WAAA GO AWAY YOU BIG BULLY... dude like really how old are you.. This place should have an age limit.. I DEMAND THEY PUT IN A FRIGGIN AGE LIMIT SO KIDS CAN'T POST HERE...

First you have an issue with curses, then you start calling people a big bully and using terminology I'd expect from a child.. I used some big words so that means i'm trying to sound Mature.. No it doesn't bro.. it's called posting a response in a way that shows I have more than a single strand of hair on my nuts.. Something I'm sure you'll get in the next 4 or 5 years bro.. Hang in there, they are coming..

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i didnt call you big bully you are so funny... every reply you make adds new nonrelated stuff or some very very lame insult...

and your responsens are not mature in the definition oyou think about... read your posts again and then mine. you are the one trying to sound mature and be a big guy who knows how people have to talk... if you are such a mature and i hope smart guy you would have started the whole conversation on another level or just say nothing... you are not even mature enough to just go away and let me lil kid rant... :3

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I know i'm funny bro, and the best part is i'm not even trying.. I'm just sitting here bored after a long day of work unwinding.. and deciding I'd flip the script on you.. Imagine what I could do if this site was truly uncensored.. (note to you.. I got banned from a website that said it was totally uncensored and free for all when it came to flaming.. Yet they banned me.. )

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What now...? you wanne me be afraif of the big mature man...? imagaine you would just go away and being mature like you said... your last posts are so mature... provocating, spreading false information because you have no knowlegde about it etc... but keep going...

i have no problem if you see me as lil child etc... but stop pretending to be someone and (NOTE TO YOU, I DONT CARE) be proud of being childisch youself on other boards...^^

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meh, you're not fun anymore.. I mean maybe if I could tell what wanne, and afraif were.. Are you Donald Trump.. I confefe too..

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wanna / afraid...?

pretty easy to guess i think... go on with picking on unimportant stuff mature boy... :)

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Oh BTW i can read more than a few lines... just not nonsense like yours... starting talking about nonrelated things etc... BUT calling me kid etc... i just can lough about "mature" like you...

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Really, you literally said you stopped reading after a single sentence.. My only logical conclusion would be you have a massive raging case of the ADD.. Otherwise as an adult you should be able to read a 7 or 8 sentence post.. It's not really that difficult..

I called you a kid because you're whole attitude screams kid.. I'd seriously hope you weren't over the age of 14 by the way your post and complaints are coming across.. I mean seriously, if you dislike Steamgifts don't go there.. Go to Barter or NAMBLA or whatever other website you're in love with.. Demanding something in all capital letters like you're the Emo Superman or something.. relax bro.. calm down.. take a breath,, the world isn't ending any time soon.. You can stop with the sky screaming and pink pikachu hats..

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bad conclusion...

EDIT: fun to see that some people give so much about CAPS etc...^^

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what's up...? ran like a little chicken...?

i have just read through a few threads with your replies on SG and you try to tell people they are kids and you are mature... you are insulting everyone if you dont like their opinion, you dont even think 30 seconds about someones post but write little textwalls wich contain wrong informations (like you did here about german censorship) etc...

instead of starting or turning conversations into "mature" talk like you would say you compare people with alot things... you even hang up on typos...

you can try to think you are a mature thinking and acting person, but your are the same lil fucking child like i am... :D

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I used to use it but I moved on to better trading sites. Steamtrades has been abandoned for a while. I suggest other trading sites like barter and Lestrades (which is much better then Barter but has less people). I get a lot of trade offers on those and haven't been scammed yet.

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first world problem here

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CG !!! CLOSE THAT SHIT OR GET MODS !!!

bad behavior like swearing

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would like this post if I could.. I demand we get the ability to upvote post on this board.. cause we're throwing demands around and all...

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CG !!! CLOSE THIS SHIT OR GIVE US UPVOTES!!!

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damn heavy swearing... damn it... :P

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SteamTrades is not perfect but not that bad either. In my opinion if you want to 'stand up' as you said, you don't need to be this aggressive, you should point out the things CG needs to change and what you think the site should do.

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many people have pointed it out before and im sure he knows whats going wrong on SG... he just dont cares enough IMO...

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Well, since the moment they put steamtrades into a new domain, they stopped caring about it. You can literally post ANYTHING there and they won't give a damn. :P I like that I can gather +rep there and that I can open some trade posts whenever I have some spare keys, but it has too many disadvantages. Steamtrades is a paradise for scammers, trolls, impersonators, toxic people, etc.

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I prefer barter but have no problems with steamtrades.

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barter is not bad... i just cant deactivate my wishlist there... since i add alot into my wishlist i get alot unwanted offers...

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Well, you can remove games from your barter wishlist by editing it. Not sure if that helps you though

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can i add the whole wishlist at once to blacklist...? because its realy big... :P

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will try it later... thanks... :)

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Also the reputation system isn't so good like everyone told... many gets -rep without some serious reasons, because everyone can vote and everyone can vote without reading and just click on the Accept button... also many new traders who even don't know for what is it... At the terms of the site says that someone can give you a negative reputation after a try of scam and trade related reasons...but for example i have 2 for non trade related(for some bull*its, one of them, because don't want to trade with the person, other because don't want to do a paypal or something like that), the third one, because got scammed and give the guy -rep(revenged rep from him) and the new one that its really funny - guy who added me after 8 months and told that my key is duplicate , its same kind funny, but its serious too...

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it's about the bad behaviour like swearing

So why do you swear in your main post and in your replies to people?
I mean, it's bad behavior, right? And should be moderated? So, you'll accept a (theoretical) suspension for swearing in this thread?
It's some food for thought.

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what swearing, please point out... i hope you didnt get offended or felt bad about "shit" wich everyone uses here, so i dont see it as forbidden swearing... :)

EDIT: and if you start talking like a mature with me you get mature respsonse... ;)

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Instances of swearing:

  • "It's like fucking wild west..." [1]
  • "CG !!! CLOSE THAT SHIT OR GET MODS !!!" [1]
  • "steamtrades is a fucking mess..." [2]

I didn't personally get offended by either of them, I just commented on how it undermined your reasoning that you say that part of the problem is the unmoderated swearing and you, yourself, swear. Thus I asked if you wanted these instances moderated too.

I don't understand what you mean by "talking like a mature" and "mature response". You expected me to come out swearing and try to tear you apart?

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common^^ everyone uses these words here and it seems they are tolerated... nothing more to say about it...

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You don't even see the irony in complaining about swearing and then swear?
I don't dispute that "shit" probably is rather commonly used, more so than "fucking" I'd wager, but that's beside the point.

Fun fact, I did a quick corpus search and these are the results (source Google);

word uses SG uses ST
shit 13,900 431
fucking 6,550 147
fuck 10,100 248
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wheres that a FUNfact...?

and theres a difference for the moderation here if you have shit and fuck in normal sentences or if you go to offend someone with these words...

i have a fucking day - cool
seems your day is fucked - cool
you are fucking fuck - bad

got it...?

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I thought it was fun and interesting. It's not often you see science on this forums, now is it? I may be biased though, I admit that.

Yes, you are correct in that there's a difference in general swearing and personal abuse. Buuut...

"i have a fucking day" - swearing? ✅
"seems your day is fucked" - swearing? ✅
"you are fucking fuck" - swearing? ✅

They're all instances of swearing, a part of what you defined as bad behavior that should be moderated.
"got it...?"

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but tolerated here... seems you didnt get it... BUT please read my other reply... i stop this useless discussion... :)

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tear me appart with swearing, again i have to lough hard about someone here...^^

first you got offended from something that was not against you... nice one... but hey come out... seems you all get easy pissed and just rant yourself a bit about ranting...^^

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I explicitly told you that I didn't get offended, though. It seems like you're trying to manipulate this dialogue by applying generalizations of other users on me.

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No, you didn't...^^ BUT why you wrote this then...?

"You expected me to come out swearing and try to tear you apart?"

EDIT: i will stop discussion with you here because it will have same outcome like the one with Pucker... have a nice day...!!! :)

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It was my interpretation of your usage of "mature response", the only one I could think of; that you expected me to rage at you with curses and insults.

Ok. I'll wish you a nice day too, then.

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- rep and fucked me in your mouth

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Do not close steamtrades. It's good enough if you carefull.

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