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you joined 200 games, some people didn't even win before entering their 2000th game, lvl 0 means everyone can enter so yes, it's harder to win something but not impossible
I have just as much chance of winning a lvl 0 game as you do and I won multiple lvl 0 games in my time here.

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200 giveaways is nothing. You have a chance to win, doing almost nothing but clicking on a button, and still you complain. Unbelievable.

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Yeah lets play the entitled card some more.

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Why not?

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<3

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Emm... So create one AAA title GA for lvl0 if You complain about lack of them. Why not?

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"Almost all the pages of giveaways are games i wouldn't even pay a single penny for. Where are all the good/well known and popular game title giveaways?"

Well, do something about it then .

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Problem is solved. If theres no Games interesting you. you dont have to think about stuff, like if you can even win them.

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Level 5-6 are filled with same bundled games, sometimes just as shit as others. Seen quite some whitelist GA for bundle trash as well.though you can increase your chances and the selection by getting to level 1-2, and/or looking for trains and puzzles.
Also, sg is not part of steamtrades at all. Was the other way around, but now they are two separate sites.

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Simple answer: yes.

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Sadly, only level 10s win any games so if you want to win anything you better start creating giveaways

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I hope you are joking now because that's nonsense, lower levels can easily win many games.

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Shh, let him giveaway a ton of AAA games to reach level 10 before he finds out the truth

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haha well, with the way he writes I doubt he will even give anything away, but nice try :P

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Did you mean couple dollar bundles?

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I haven't won anything since Level 10

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Sorry to hear ๐Ÿ˜ญ
2 years is too long!

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I'm being overdramatic. I don't enter very many. I haven't even finished all my wins yet.

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I joined 35,888 (!!!) giveaways and won 67x only... and this includes the ones where I was the only contestant... and I managed to fail at giveaways with 60+% chance for success several times.

So don't worry, keep trying.

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With attitude like that, no one is really going to miss you here so feel free to leave.

E: Happy to see you have turned over a new leaf here. Hope you enjoy your time with the community and actually win some games you want to play!

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Let's give him the benefit of the doubt. It's natural to have questions and simple answers can help remove doubts better than pointing fingers. Also a positive attitude does wonders.

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I understand why someone new would create a topic like this. But I was referring mainly to his comment in this thread - https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/dCtegh7

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That comment kinda deserves your reaction.

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Gotta say that I am actually impressed by how the OP turned out in the end - https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/lGMpTUr

Guess I shouldn't be so fast to judge as everyone can have a bad time and end up coming of as a different person.

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Simple math. An average level 0 giveaway has around 1500 entries. This means you need to enter around that amount to get one win. Although I had a lvl.0 winner whose very first GA he entered he also won.

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i salute you, for not giving up about this...

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Well he says he only wants to enter "good/well known and popular games" so he probably needs to enter around 10.000 GAs.

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I'm level 5 and it's been more than 3 months since my last win. You just need to enter a lot more giveaways because the chances are quite slim at best depending on the number of participants. Level 0 has the lowest winning chances because of the higher number of participants. You just weren't "lucky" enough to be picked by the RNG, that's all. Keep it up and you'll eventually win.

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It's simple math. If you enter giveaways that have maybe 1000 entries on average, you can't expect to already have won something after just 200 entries. It can happen, but you would have to consider yourself lucky then. It's all about probability. I can assure you, though, that the winners are chosen at random. Every participant gets the same chance.

It took me around 800 entries before I got my first win. And I was already level 1 or 2 (don't quite remember, and CV was handled differently back then anyway).

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i salute you too ;)

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Then I salute you back! xD

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It is not normal to have 0 wins, but on math it is. Math - not even once.

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no not these kind of thread again. :(

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Best thing to do is to increase your level. At least reach level one. Not to say there isn't competition there, but it's better than zero.

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Level doesn't matter if you're entering level 0 giveaways. Most giveaways have hundreds or thousands of entries but only 1 copy. You're unlikely to win. You can increase your chances by entering giveaways with only a few entries (<99 entries for instance) or giveaways with multiple copies of a game (a recent giveaway had 10,000 copies).

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How about making a giveaway? Sometimes it helps the RNG when you give to the community. As for the games you wouldn't pay for you see, some of them are actually better than the big name AAA games you are looking for. Give some a try. You might just be surprised and you might just learn something.

It also does take time to win sometimes. I'm a little over 40K entries in the almost 5 years I've been here and just won my 188th GA yesterday. But before that, my last win was on July 11th. JULY11! A month. So it takes patience and time. Plus a little greasing the wheels for spacecat too. :P

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Uh, I like my wheels well greased ( อกยฐ อœส– อกยฐ)

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if you created giveaways you would indeed see alot of lvl 0 bots and hoarders who join every giveaway and win so much. just got to become a bot then you shall win all the game!

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i believe you will win soon if you want a bigger chance try unlucky 7 they are a group of people who havent won 7 games. but yeah just keep entering you will gradually win. lower amount of entries will help but my 1st 3 wins were lvl 0 and 1 of them had 14500 entries. i wish you luck in winning something. also i cant hate on your 200 entries. its different for everyone i won in my 1st week. while there are others like someone put below took like a year. but as i said before i wish you luck in winning before you turn old and grey

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A I stated before. Some of those, as you call them, garbage cereal box games can turn out to be better than some of those AAA games you only seem to want. You aren;t going to see CoD or Fallout or Skyrim here all the time. Wishlist games are, by far, the hardest ones to win. Trust me on this.

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That "garbage cereal box game" is bought and/or given away by someone else not expecting such entitlement and ungratefulness in return. Maybe a change in attitude won't hurt you. I gave you the benefit of the doubt and tried to be helpful but maybe you didn't deserve it in the first place. You should try to put a bit of thought into it before calling other people's good intentions "garbage".

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I'm actually pretty sure that most of the people who give away those "garbage games" are well aware that those are in fact garbage. So I don't feel calling those games what they are is necessarily ungrateful or anything.

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Someone handing out hot garbage and expexting thanks and praise is bigger entitlement than calling trash games trash. We indeed know good games, niche ones, or dumpsterfire assetflips :D

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I've entered over 200 giveaways and NOT 1 game was won

hehe i won first game after year and half of entering, month ago i won game, before i had year and 3 months withnout single win... this is bothersome and idk if it even worth my time to click "enter" anymore, wait another year? :D overall am here 5 years, won 25 games while here are guys 1 year and won 250 games...

but yes i agree, winning games with lvl 0 is meh, anyway ur level is 0 too and u would like to get smth?

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Of course you can win at level 0. However, 200+ entries and expecting to win something already is a bit unrealistic. If you want to improve your chances, try not being picky about the giveaways you enter because newer and popular games can have thousands of entries along with yours, as well as entering some of those 50+ game giveaways. (Think of the odds of winning the lottery jackpot. It is all completely random.) In addition, you might want to start giving away games yourself, especially if you want to raise your current level.

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Several people, including support, have already stated that your level has nothing to do with your chance of winning, and that everyone has an equal chance. Why are you still going on about this? If the system were rigged, people would have noticed, and you'd have lots of people siding with you here. Making such a harsh claim after such a short time and with only 200 entries is silly.

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Well if you entered games with chance 1/1000+ you might not win in 200 GA's
If you enter GA with 15000 copies , you can win it easily
When i was 0 Lvl i won more than 10 GA's in 3000-4000 entries ^_^

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Quick question: Any of the 200 GAs you've entered had less than 200 entries?

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Assuming you entered 200 giveaways with 500 entries each the odds are only about 1 in 3 at winning something. That changes to 1 in 5 at winning something in 200 giveaways with 1000 entries each, or 1 in 4 if the average is 750 entries.

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My eyes are bleeding in front of this butchered statistics. It totally doesn't work like that.

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Yeah, Im no expert at math but I wondered how the hell 0,2% chance of winning 200 times resulted in a total of 1/3 chance of winning something at all.

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This is how I came up with my values
(499/500) ^200 is the odds of winning 0 out of 200 giveaways with 500 entries each, which is 67%. That makes the odds of winning something 33% or 1 in 3.

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Seemed high to me but got the same number when I googled to find a good forumula. :)

1-(1-(1/500))^200 = ~33%

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Statistics was never my strongest class, could you please enlighten me? I know the average is not technically correct as it does depend on the actual entries per giveaway, but it should be close enough assuming the entries were close to 500 and 1000.

(499/500) ^200 is the odds of winning 0 out of 200 giveaways with 500 entries each, which is 67%. That makes the odds of winning something 33% or 1 in 3. Or so I thought

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You are correct.

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There is nothing wrong with your example, there is a 67% chance to win nothing in this scenario and a 33% chance to win something between 1 and 200 giveaways. No idea why the others are troubled by this simple calculation.

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It totally does!

Chance to win one giveaway with 500 entries: P = 1/500 = 0.002
Chance to not win that giveaway Q = 1 - 1/500 = 0.998

To calculate the probability along a tree diagram, you have to multiple.
So the probability to win if as follows (500 entries each):

  • The first of two giveaways: 0.002 (win the first one) * 0.998 (not win the second one) = 0.001996 about 0.2%

  • The second of two giveaways: 0.998 (not win the first one) * 0.002 (win the second one) = 0.001996 about 0.2%

  • => Win exactly one of two giveaways (addition here): about 0.4%

  • Win both giveaways: 0.002 * 0.002 = 0.000004 = 0.0004%

  • Not win any of those two giveaways: 0.998 * 0.998 = 0.998^2 = 0.996004 = 99.6004%

So lets do that 200 time: 0.998^200 = about 0,67 = 67% not to win any of the 200 giveaways. Complementary there is a 33% chance to win one or more giveaways.

Edit: Like someone said above "basic math".

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If we only resort to common sense, to win something in GAs with 500 entries, you need to enter 500 times. But that's not how statistics works.

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Well, I figured it worked with what you said.

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Wait... You STILL have faith in humanity? Well, I guess someone has to.

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i keep this image for threads like this. Hope Khalaq doesn't mind :)

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You certainly have reduced the chances of even being able to enter GAs by the way you worded your posts.

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