Who is responsible for your VACban?
I'm still convinced VAC bans are extremely situational and should be able to be appealed through Valve support(if it actually worked). People have gotten bans for using client-side modifications(aka it affects only the user, so not hacks or anything like that) and then, as many people will, tell you 100 times over, there are false positives(aka mistakes within the system). I've personally never gotten one because I've never hacked/cheated/gotten a false positive/shared my account but I'm still wary of multiplayer games simply because of how toxic people can be. Check out videos of the newest judge system in CS:GO and you'll see how easily someone can be falsely reported for something(although to be fair, most CSGO players seem to just be really salty overall).
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Also, no, texturepacks aren't worthy of a VacBan unless its purpose is to cheat (one example that comes to mind is the x-ray texturepack(s) in Minecraft, which made finding ores easy and was heavily abused on multiplayer servers).
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Been 12 years on Steam and I clearly recall that there was a time that there was something in place that you want and ask for : temporary and appealable VAC bans.
Yes they really did exist but the thing is that Valve/Steam support began to notice that when users got their VAC ban lifted that they began cheating again, got a new VAC ban again and the very same users were popping up in the Valve/Steam support pipeline again and again.
And that's the reason why that VAC bans became permanent and non appealable bans and the kudos and congrats for this change from temporary to permanent ban go to the cheaters themselves aka those cheaters threw in their own windows and spoiled it for the rest of the Steam users.
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That doesn't excuse how shitty the system is now. Nobody should be VAC banned for using mods that are only client-side and don't affect others.One of the links in this thread included the Source Engine fan games, such as Cry of Fear, which included a VAC ban because of certain files (.dll files being one of them). Cheaters are bad, yeah, but the system is still really bad and Valve truly doesn't give a shit.
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The smartest thing one could do is not to mess with known VAC protected source and multiplayer games and I somehow think that the 4.75 million VAC and Game bans to date aren't all by modders. Modding VAC protected games is like playing with fire as it's just a matter of time not if but when one will get burned.
And as I said, Valve did actually try temporary VAC bans and VAC removals but the serial cheaters ruined it for everyone.
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All of that is something Valve should fix. False positives really shouldn't be happening in the first place but a lot of them aren't being fixed... At all.
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I'm just not all for the collateral damage. Obviously cheaters suck but it's insult to injury when Valve support has this policy of not removing VAC bans from an account. It's like a scar that's forced on you.
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there are lots of cases where people where innocent, like mw3 for using skins, and i think the same happened with dark souls 1.
dying light added mod support without warning people that they also implemented vac, so a lot where banned for this (and since i played it i expected a ban 2 months ago...).
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First of all sorry for my bed england.
So what was the funnies VACban story you heard? Whenever I ask someone about his/her ban they always come up with some sorry ass story like noooo that was not me, that was my friend, my brother, my cousin, it was my cat who used cheats etc.
I've already asked some people about their story but they always deny it and they are blaming someone else or they are saying they were banned for no reason etc.
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