So I tried to spend as little this month as possible, but unexpected spendings just keep coming in when I have little to no money. Last night my system disk failed, a 60gb SSD I got in January 2014. Today I got another one, 4 times the space for half the price. And the disk weights like 3 times less, what do they use to make these, dehydrated potatoes?

In the end, I'm more bitter about the spending than relieved I barely lost anything (you know, backups and stuff). That's why I'm venting off about the issue. But also, I didn't consider or realize that the SSD was quite old and the ones from that generation were more prone to fail than modern ones, or so I've read. It certainly hasn't had a happy life, so I'm kind of amazed it has really lasted almost six years. Was I lucky with this disk? Or should I have expected even longer lifetime?

At least now I'll be able to install The Lord Of The Rings Online on the SSD...

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Do you think six years is a long lifetime for an SSD?

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Potato

M.2 SSD is even lighter.

Not really out that long, think it's early to tell what an average standard is, i expected it to be longer though.

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I'd say you were lucky, or maybe I was just unlucky, because my SSD only lasted a year and a half before it died and had to be replaced.

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Even today you can buy 240GB SSD for $35 and it will last 5-6 years, or you can buy the same capacity for $100-$130 and it will last 20-50 years.

One of most important parameters in the specs: TBW.

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I actually got a 240gb for €35. I could have had it for €30 next week, but I was too tired of it all to add it more wait.
The 60gb was a short-term bet with the idea of replacing it with a larger one in 1-2 years, but never got the money for it until now when I was forced.
I see TBW has improved vastly over the last years. A few years ago I was talking to people about how SSD will become cheaper and more reliable than mechanical ones and I see it's coming one of these days.

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For a SSD from 2013 I'd say that six years is what you could expect. The modern SSDs will last much longer.

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For such a small capacity, that's a very good lifespan.
I was going to write out an explanation about everything, but this link explains everything much better.

https://www.howtogeek.com/322856/how-long-do-solid-state-drives-really-last/

TLDR: the capacity, quality, and how much you write to an SSD determine its lifespan.

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+1 for nuance

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mine is almost 7 years old, 93% lifteime

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Mine its 8-9 years old, with over 5 years working time and its at 87%. Albeit at that time they were way more expensive than now.

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Flash storage is scary because it tends to just die spontaneously and without warning. Compared to old spinning drives where you could start to hear noises and get some warning about upcoming failure (clicking sounds, bad sectors, etc).

I had a SSD (Sandisk, now also called Western Digital) that started failing after 2 months, got a warranty replacement of the exact same model drive and that replacement has been working fine for 4 years. So you never know.

As you said the most important thing is to make backups of anything you would be sad about losing. In IT there is the 3-2-1 rule, for any data you don't want to lose, you should have 3 copies of the data, on 2 different forms of media, and at least 1 copy of the data stored off-site.

A few years ago I had a very nice external backup system, it was a RAID6 tower and I was doing multiple daily rolling incremental backups, I could rewind back to any point in time over the past few months to recover a file. I also had lots of mass file storage (not backed up, but "protected" by the RAID anyway) on there for the huge files like games, music, family photos etc. I thought I was being really smart. And then my house was flooded and both my computer AND the backup system both went underwater. So I lost everything, except for a lucky backup of some of my system and program data files that was on a portable drive in my backpack. It was about 6 months outdated, but at least it had my passwords, emails, old tax documents, web browser bookmarks etc. on it. Still lost all of the music, family photos and all of that. Which was sad.

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I've had mechanical drives die spontaneously and without warning, as the last external HD did - instant potato. *Actually I had this SSD giving me warnings of another kind, but I thought the problems came from my main hard drive and not the SSD. When I realized last night, it was too late. Fortunately the drive booted up this morning long enough to get an image copy just before it failed again, so all in all I lost a really low amount of data.

I was still prepared with a fairly recent system backup. But yes even with backups you never know what can you lose. I've had that stuff, losing both the data and the backup, so yes it was sad. I try to keep important files on BR. Actually most important files that should have been on system drive were on other disks with symlinks - email databases and similar things.

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Small correction: 3 copies which includes your live data, not 3 backups.

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That makes more sense. I keep original data, then one backup in another drive, and then from time to time I burn backups in bluray and for the small things I put in flash drives. Not 3-2-1, but pretty good for me.

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Yeah, you are right. I will edit :)

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as long as you got a good new ssd and not a cheap shitty one it's a win for you.
60gb is no fun.my windows folder alone is 24gb in size. not counting programs and user data.
tiny drives have a hard time spreading the erase cycles around. any idea how many TB written your drive endured?

my 250gb system ssd is 4.5 years old with 27tb written (88% health)
1tb steam ssd is one year old with only 2tb written (100% health)

my hdd die way more often. samsung & seagate are both garbage. my wd red is doing fine but that one is barely a year old.

also i still have a wd raptor with my old windows xp installation in my rig because i'm too lazy to pull it out. 72 000 power on hours and still going.

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I can't afford much so I got for basically the cheapest one. Kingston 400, doesn't look bad, not the best but not the worst either. I'm not really wanting to plug the drive again to check TBW and health, but I should have checked that more often. I admit I've really abandoned the usual maintenance and watching on this computer in the last 3-4 years.
I still have a 120mb drive that I know it works, although I can't plug it in this computer ofc (but I have the 486 MB and CPU next to it). And my first 1gb drive, must be somewhere.

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kingston isn't exactly "premium" but it should get the job done. if you're low on money then all that smart-ass talk about getting something better doesn't help.

as long as you have a good backup strategy there is no need to worry.
i'm doing a full backup every month and that is enough.
i used to check s.m.a.r.t. as well but that never helped. everything looks good and fine until it isn't and then it's too late to do anything about it.

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Kingston is reliable but that model is "slow" (compared to better ones like Samsung EVO, Crucial MX...) because it does not have DRAM.

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well, i think this was 1st/2nd gen SSD, and depending on the useage it had a good life
but in general expect all electronics to fail after 5 years. most will outlast this but be mentally ready for it
I dont over invest into it and downgrade older hardware to non-vital stuff.

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I bought a Crucial 120GB SSD back in 2011 and used it continuously, only buying another one (Samsung 850 EVO 500GB) for more storage space roughly 2 years ago, never had any problems (other then needing to do a firmware update once). Still keep it around with a clean copy of Windows 7 installed in case my current SSD dies (which for the first year would occasionally crash windows with a blue screen of death...but doesn't do that anymore). The Crucial brand SSD was really good for me, and if it wasn't for the limited storage space I'd still be using it.

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I think there are 2 main factors that can amortize SSDs easily:

  • total amount of writes (i cannot give an exact number but i had a 60GB ssd once that worked well even after 64TB writes which i considered as a lot after 4-5 years of usage)
  • hottest temperatures it had during its life (hot summer days and a bad airflow pc case can make terrible results)

And dont forget the 10% rule. Always keep at least 10% of the ssd's storage free.

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And dont forget the 10% rule. Always keep at least 10% of the ssd's storage free.

To be clear: This was more important when SSDs didn't have provisioning built in. Today many modern SSDs do have it built in to some extent to prevent the drive's performance from being completely crippled when getting near full, which is why there's some drives with weird drive sizes like 480 GB. Over-provisioning hurts nothing other than the ability to actually use more drive space.

In general with typical storage drives, whether HDDs or SSDs, the more free space there is then the faster the reads & writes can be for different reasons - Its just that the variances in speed vs free space may vary.

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I really hope my SSDs last more than 6 years...

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I had 2 SSDs as my OS partition for 2 different computers (purchased around 2012?). And both failed in around 6-7 years. I guess it was normal?

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I havent owned SSDs but my laptops HDD is going 8 years strong
I have an old PC as well, I think it was bought around 2007. HDD is still working on that pc as well

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I have a Samsung 840 EVO 120 GB from 2014 and still going strong (only 10.7 TBW) and two WD Blue 1TB HDDs and one of them is about 8 years old. Fortunately, I have backups on an external HDD and regularly image the system drive. Hopefully, I'm safe enough.

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You should have gone for a NVMe M.2 SSD, they are barely more expensive but have 3-10x the performance of a SATA SSD

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I don't remember how old is my SSD but it might be around your old SSD's age. It was so "healthy" that I put it into my new PC. But I try to rewrite on it as little as possible, and have most important stuff on HDD. But LOTRO client was on it and the game was loading very fast. Disconnection in instance was not a big deal ;)

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Mine is from 2014 as well, didn't know you could read out the TBW which I should really do, but I'm going to fully replace my current PC soon (probably June) so I hope doubt I'll have any problems until then :D

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a 60gb SSD

Brand and model? Then we could find the TBW value and tell you if it's normal or not to fail after 6 years.

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finest OCZ with Sandforce Controller - best best

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This site has a good database of SSDs including info like controller, RAM maker, speed, TBW, MTBF, Warranty etc.

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Thanks for the link & your other posts. Very useful site & information. Throw in the profile pic & that's WL material. 😉

Have a greet weekend.

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I had a 64GB SSD die on me this past summer. It was in my home server and the drive just had Windows and a few programs on it, everything else is written to HDDs. I used an SSD for the system drive because I figured without moving parts and not getting used a lot that it would last a long time. Since the system is on 24/7, I didn't want to have to re-install every time I upgraded the main HDD, either because I need space or it failing.

One day I remote log in and there was an error saying Windows detected a hard disk problem on my C: drive, which was the SSD. The SSD diagnostic reported the drive health at 6% and estimated less than a month to failure. The system is on 24/7, and had just passed 50,000 hours of powered on time, but only a little over 4TB of data written to it in its lifetime.

I'm glad the drive warned me before it failed. I didn't lose anything besides money buying a new one and the time cloning the drive. I was disappointed that it failed with such little data written to it. I didn't think time mattered as much to an SSD. I have an HDD I still use that is older than that with more power on time. I don't use it for anything important because of its age, I just keep using it to see how long it will last.

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