Another stupid thread?
I swear I'm not stalking but recently most thread i see is always made by you.
why?
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Fun? Attention? A bit of distracting? I don't know. Do off-topic threads really need a reason to be?
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No, but it's certainly more fun if you add a giveaway to the randomness. Source: ultimate debates
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More fun to who? It's not a rule, anyways. Maybe if I had money
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I am an almost total pacifist (I have been violent one time in my life (2)). I have ADHD (focused on speech and social understanding, not irrational emotions and assaulting people). I am 17. I live in Norway aka rehab for criminals, no weapons and selfdefense is illegal. I live in a small town (10k-15k).
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When I was 12 I went out about 1900 on a saturday and I encountered in the forest trail a man with what looked like a pistol and drinking alcohol. He looked at me waving his gun and cursing. I just backed away and started running home when I was out of sight. I expect that in USA this is not rare, but in Norway with its weapon ban and living in a small town I was terrified.
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When I was 11 I was at the local swimming pool with a mental disorder group when one of its members (I will call him Anon) suddenly started choking me while holding me under water and kicking my crotch. I only remember suddenly out of instinct hitting the chest of Anon and Anon letting me loose. The swimming pool was busy but noone helped me or reacted. When I told the leader of the group he yelled at me for wildly accusing his son. Anons brother was in my class and he was my best friend? (I had 2 conversation partners and 3 friends). I left that group obviously. After that happened Anon walks up to me every time he sees me with a happy smile and asks me how his best friend is doing while often holding a knife or a sharp object. I am terrified of him.
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Other than the above I have constantly been mentally attacked by about 90-95% of the students older than me up to I was in 9th grade. From 7th grade and up my classmates was atleast willing to talk to me.
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Things that keeps/kept me going: my grandma is alive and soon retired, my dad is able to talk to me for about two hours a week, I have always had 1 conversation partner, the teachers is willing to hear me talk for 5-10 minutes every day.
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Sorry. It's just... your Tinder thing is making me sick
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Can I ask why it made you sick? I didn't see anything weird/wrong with it. Unless it's about the word choice ("opportunities").
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I don't know really as I didn't find anything wrong with that comment myself; I'm just trying to work out what OP found wrong with it.
Looking into it more thoroughly, the "opportunities" could kind of sound as if you were looking for a one-night stand or something like that. But again - that's being pedantic about the wording choice.
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That guy is talking about Tinder on every thread of mine. I don't know if it meant to be a joke, but it stopped to work some threads ago
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Oh... okay, there's nearly no way I could have known that so I was pretty confused. Thanks for explaining.
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Why did it stop working? Just because he's talking about the thing that he spends a lot on his time on? If you do a lot of the same stuff, you tend to talk about the same stuff.
It's like complaining about someone always talking about video games or movies or whatever else.
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It just doesn't fit the matter of the threads, what's a reason clear enough
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The first one doesn't, yet you let that slide. I can also see a fair few others that don't fit here. Why is this one an issue? I severely doubt that every time he's made a remark with Tinder involved that was also extremely off topic.
Plus, he just looked at the whole thing in a different perspective. It wasn't off topic per sé, it was more like a sidestep.
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You're somewhat right, but I've already explained why: it's not about a single post, but a whole bunch of posts. And even if it was completely off topic, it would surely not be some kind of sin at all; I just expressed part of my tiredness about that repetition. Since I'm not even a moderator and, thus, I'm not punishing him in any way, I don't really see why you're annoyed by that fact.
By the way, the fact that there is a lot of posts that also don't fit here or other threads of mine doesn't change the fact this one doesn't do it either. That's not a really valid argument.
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Well, then that's a really petty reason then. Again, as I said: " Just because he's talking about the thing that he spends a lot on his time on? If you do a lot of the same stuff, you tend to talk about the same stuff."
No, other people doing something wrong wasn't even my argument, dude.
My argument was that it's hypocritical to go after only one guy while ignoring others, who you should be hating on as much as you do on this guy.
(P.S. Just because you're a moderator, doesn't mean that you throwing in a random insult isn't "punishing")
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I've already said sorry... do you want me to apologize to you too? Ok, then: I'm sorry...
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Hell nah, don't apologize :D
Although, I can't find an apology here, so I'm not sure what you're saying by saying that you're sorry.
"Never said that. I said it could be a joke, which is very different" - That's the last thing you said to him.
"Sorry. It's just... your Tinder thing is making me sick" - That's just you apologizing for getting sick by his Tinder thing. You're basically saying "Sorry for my reaction to your disgusting statement."
Regardless, it's not like it matters a great deal. It's just that your statement doesn't seem to be true at this point in time. Maybe I've missed something. If so, I'm sorry. But it doesn't seem to be the case.
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If I say "I want to eat something", then no one should be reading it as "I found a dead body in the river."
Those two statements have really nothing to do with each other.
I can see the connection, but it's so weak that no one could really figure that out. If you say something, then that's what it means.
Plus, again, it seems that you never apologized to FameTaker or any other commenter, like you made it out that you did.
Doesn't matter if it's "got me tired". In the end you're just saying "I'm sorry that your argument made me tired."
That's the Delta Airlines type of apology. "I'm sorry that you had this reaction". That's not an apology. That's you saying that his sentence was what pushed you over the edge, even though:
1) It had no reason to
2) It wasn't his fault, it was yours to begin with.
You never acknowledged that and just pushed the blame back to him.
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Sorry again, but it was your time to get me tired. It's so much drama and empty argumentation because of a meme image and his supposed joke. Even so, I said I was sorry, and that's more than enough for the context of a meme image, even if the apologies were not expressed properly.
It doesn't matter whose fault is. I don't even bother to try to convince anyone the fault is not mine, since if it is, it is just... an empty fault. We're talking about a meme image and a simple joke that made me tired to the point of posting it. None of them are really terrible sins which will damage each other in a irreversible way. If the mentioned user doesn't agree, really felt so hurt and wants further apologies, I encourage that he expresses it by himself, not through other people. I don't think he needs them.
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A meme? That was not a meme, bud. A meme would have to be popular to some capacity. What you used was a gif to convey a message. That message was for you to tell someone to "politely go to hell.". It's not like what you said means less just because you sent a gif for it.
Were you sorry? You're still lying about that. That's not a mistake either. You've said this 3 times. You're just lying. You shifted blame. That's all that you did.
It matters whose fault it is when the person at fault starts pointing fingers. Like, I'm down to dropping this. it's just hilarious to see this type of behaviour. Going after people and snapping at them randomly and then tucking their tail between their legs and claiming to have done nothing wrong.
Also... again, you're just shifting blame. "I don't even bother to try to convince anyone the fault is not mine, since if it is, it is just... an empty fault."
You, again, are saying "sorry that you don't like something".
I'm not speaking for him. Don't try and guilt me into thinking that maybe I shouldn't criticize the public behaviour of a fellow SG user.
I'm not telling you to apologize to him. I told you: "Hell nah, don't apologize :D"
What I am telling you, is that you shouldn't try and shift blame and then say that you are totally not shifting the blame.
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The definition of a meme doesn't matter. Guilts and faults don't matter either. It doesn't matter if I'm really sorry or not either, because going to hell is just unharmful, since it's an imaginary world used as a generical insult to tell people to stop. It is an irrelevant occurence which you are talking about for days. If the guy who was supposedly hurt is annoyed, again, I urge his participation, so I can say I'm sorry if he truly shows he got upset. If he's not, there's nothing to be sorry about. Beside that, I have nothing to talk to you anymore.
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Well, it most certainly does matter. One is a message that's delivered through a different medium, the other's a joke for the most part. That's the difference...
Oh, for god's sake. Are you truly such a weaselly person as to start betraying your own points when it suits you?
The definition doesn't matter, you say. Suddenly, it matters that you only sent him to hell, because the word matters, due to the definition.
Seriously, stick with your own points.
It's a very arbitrary thing to say, hell's fine, but telling someone, for example, to go fuck themselves is just awful. For some people hell isn't an "imaginary world". I personally am an agnostic, so I don't care. But saying stuff like that just earns you a spot on r/Atheism or something. Edgy stuff...
You told someone to go to hell, unwarranted, without a reason, without a joke. You just essentially told someone to shut the hell up. That's all you did. No one provoked you, you just lashed at someone. The main issue you had with it was that you don't like that people talk about the same topics often... they adapt the conversation, of course, but you just don't like the idea that a person uses Tinder as an example a lot.
At least now you're no longer just lying.
Where'd the statement of you apologizing disappear into?
At first, I tried to understand why you just lashed at someone for literally no reason.
But then, my quarrel wasn't with you getting angry and randomly flipping someone off. It was the fact that you just started lying and weaseling your way out of stuff. I found that pretty weak, so that's why I was pursuing that idea.
But, it seems that you just blame everything else around you, while pretending that you're totally innocent, even though you started instigating a situation.
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Yup. Ignore the idea that you could make a mistake. It's a good way of having a successful life. You'll definitely not get in issues because of your pointless attitude.
What a disappointment...
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I make mistakes. But I won't keep reading walls of text about the same irrelevant topic for days.
Sorry to disappoint you, daddy.
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dunno
just said that when you comment on my threads, you just talk about Tinder, what's true
I would think your last haiku was cute if I was still into dates
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I don't feel like talking about all that matter again
For further reference, just read: https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/uiMh2JY
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I don't see why complaining about your Tinder mentions would make you a Mr. Darcy, but whatever.
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I hate does anybody else questions.
Nope, I can't relate to that at all. I've feel disappointed to still be alive, but not surprised. I don't remember life threatening events and I have no faith in my abilities so the fact I failed at killing mysrlf ain't surprising. I haven't had many experiences and probobly won't, I'm a pathetic piece of shit that has done nothing. I can't even experience death.
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I kinda disagree with you on something. Death is not an experience. Death is the end of all experiences. At least as we know it
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By "we" do you mean people like you? Others may know better.
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I don't know for certain that I actually awake instead of dreaming, either, but all of my senses--to the extent I am able to test the hypothesis--seem to confirm it. I am more certain of what comes after this life than I am of your existence.
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You are still talking about faith and believing. You can make every argument about uncertainty then combine with your own. It doesn't change what we know. It just changes what we believe. You don't know any better you just believe better that's all. But i am not saying that's a bad thing so don't get me wrong.
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Apparently, I am not being clear.
My beliefs are based upon what I can determine through thorough testing of those beliefs. Where it is possible to measure, I measure. Where it is possible to observe, I observe. Where it is possible to evaluate, I evaluate. My purpose in testing my beliefs is to discredit them whenever possible, to disprove that which can be disproved, so that nothing remains except that which is possible. At that point, I accept that something may be possible unless and until I can prove it to be impossible. Only when I have exhausted all avenues of testing do I conditionally admit that something is a "fact." I say "conditionally" because there is still the chance I may be able to disprove it in the future.
You call this "belief." Other people call it "the scientific method." I just call it "being realistic." Whatever you wish to call it, the things I know and the things you know are not necessarily the same, nor is it likely that we are certain of them to the same degree. I have no problem with that as our life experiences are different. Making claims about what others "know" or "believe" is perilous, at best, because it is not possible to be in other people's heads, nor do we know what life experiences others may have had. I may tell you that I have two coffee mugs on a box, and you may choose to disbelieve me, but I will not hold it against you.
You don't know any better you just believe better that's all.
You have no way of knowing whether that is true or not.
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Only when I have exhausted all avenues of testing do I conditionally admit that something is a "fact." I say "conditionally" because there is still the chance I may be able to disprove it in the future.
I especially added "as we know it" to the end because of that.
You are crystal clear to me.You just can't accept that i empathize you. You are still trying to name "faith" differently with your own story. I just don't care. As i said i mean no bad thing as calling it faith. But I have been there and there are no answers to my questions where you are.
You have no way of knowing whether that is true or not.
You neither.
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It is as if I am holding a hammer in my hand, and I say, "I'm holding a hammer," and you say, "That is what you believe. You have no way of knowing that hammers exist." Yes, that is true. I have no way of knowing with absolute certainty that hammers exist. My senses could be mistaken, my mind could be misinterpreting, and there is nothing I can do except to probe my perception of reality to the best of my ability. It doesn't matter how many other people agree with me that I have a hammer in my hand. It doesn't matter how well I define the word "hammer," nor how closely that description fits the object I seem to be holding. It doesn't even matter if you decide at some later date to agree with me that I am holding a hammer. All I can do is try my best to perceive reality as it truly exists, and to acknowledge that I will never be able to prove anything to myself with 100% certainly except by disproving all other possibilities.
You seem to use the word "faith" in place of "belief," but I avoid using the word in such a context. My point of view is that "belief" which is not solidly based on evidence (i.e. "blind faith") is not belief at all, but rather delusion. That is why I disagree with your labeling of my perception as "faith."
But I have been there and there are no answers to my questions where you are.
You don't stipulate where or what "there" is, but I would challenge your apparent assertion that there "are no answers" to your questions. Assuming you are asking the proper questions, there may be answers to them of which you are unaware. Ignorance of a thing does not prove its non-existence. I would expect you to understand this as you previously used the qualifier "that we know of." Of course, whether or not you are willing to accept any answers you may find, that is another matter altogether.
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You still continue the same thing. We discussed first part and our perspectives are similar but entirely different on that. So please just stop. :D It's getting a point where you try to convince me and you can't do that. Not with that logic.
About second part yeah i don't accept answers without a solid ground. Never mind that, the part that took my interest is "proper questions" So what is a proper question? Should i ask questions "proper" to be answered?
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When a person is trying to understand something, he or she will naturally think of many questions. A serious student, however, will consider which question should be asked. Some questions elicit answers which do nothing to facilitate understanding (e.g. "Why do we use wheels?") The best questions are those which elicit the information and/or explanation needed to achieve understanding (e.g. "How do wheels make it easier to move objects?") When I talk about "asking the proper questions," I am talking about questions which fall into the latter category. Granted, it takes some knowledge and experience to know which questions to ask, but that is why wise students spend so much time listening and thinking before they ask a question.
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This is just stupid. A serious student ask whatever he/she curious about. There are no wrong questions. What kind of ego do you have...
Edit: Oh you edited your message entirely. Please make up your mind before writing. But i won't change mine still thinking this is stupid and there is a limiting and imitating the people "don't ask everything"
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Are you asking rhetorically? Or did you want an honest answer?
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That's not a question. You have one the biggest ego i have ever seen. That's my conclusion after talking this topic with you the third time.
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Death is the alternative to living and not experiencing anything that I want. I know it's the end of everything, that's what makes it so great. My problems and issues are worthless and my feelings gone, it's the closest thing to happiness I can get.
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But you don't know what will future holds for you. That's probably a better experience than death. Because things can go only bad to a certain extent. It have to go better at some point and that would be wasted.
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I recognize who and what I am and what I'm capable of. What I am capable of does not male the next 12 years worth it.
Things don't have to get better, and even if things can only go so bad, it's still bad and not worth it. Not feeling anything is much better then feeling all this pain for an unsure chance at happiness.
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You can't know what you are capable of unless you try different things. Just don't stop trying and you will find your true potential. Also you are really young if i remember right. Don't lose hope on yourself so early that unsure chance might worth it.
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I know my limits through trying stuff. I can't fuction in society and at this point don't care too. Death is nice either way, I really want it.
And I may be young but Its already too late, I wasted the best years of my life and am wasting the last good ones.
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If there is one guarantee, it's that in death you won't ever be able to experience anything that you want either. Well all go through these periods in life filled with dark clouds but thy don't last forever. If you can't get out of this mindset by yourself, don't hesitate to seek help.
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I'm okay with not experiencing the good if I also don't have to experience the bad.
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Understanding is like a light. It illuminates what is around you, enabling you to see clearly and understand what is really happening around you. Without it, people stumble and wander in the dark, their imaginations filling in what they do not know with their fears and worries, making them miserable in the process.
The key to successfully navigating Life is to know why you are here in the first place.
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I almost stepped in front of a car, but my friend managed to barely get me out of the way.
That was around 10 years ago.
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It is something that occurs to me just about every other day. I've seen so much and only have been alive for so many years. I'm still not exactly mature and it doesn't really show on me but I'm pretty worn down already. Really, I'm surprised I'm alive and in some what good health after all that I've gone through. Not to say I've had it worse than anyone else, just with how stuff went down, I'm really surprised that I was able to come this far.
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Well, we may die at any day. xD And we had some experiences, some good and some bad. But there's no need to worry. Just live the present and stop worrying about the past and the future.
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A wise person once said
If death killed, the dead would already have died
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+1 Worrying about stuff that happened in the past, might happen in the future (okay, worrying a bit about the future is understandable, as long as you don't do it too much) or is just outside of your control is pointless. Might as enjoy yourself instead.
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I'm surprised I'm still alive, but I've gotten used to having guns in my face at this point (no joke).
I guess I've led an interesting life, but it's one I would not wish upon my worst enemy.
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Where I could've easily broken my neck, but haven't and some other occasions.
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Not so much. More often, I feel tired of dealing with life and impatient to move on to the next phase.
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Hmm, but we love you man. In dealing with life, imagine the advice you have given to countless people :)
You should be impatient to give even more advice out to people! :D
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I passed through some experiences where I surely could have died, buried more friends than I thought I would at my age, and struggle with a lot of issues to make it from month to month regarding family, work, carrer, etc.
I don't felt surprised for being alive anymore, I just get ready for the next thing life is going to throw at me and I will have to deal with.
Let me tell you something you already know. The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place, and I don't care how tough you are, it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it.
My way of dealing with all this is simple, not easy, but simple. Many years ago I decided that whenever I put my head on the pillow I check with myself if I have done all I was able to do on that day and if I tried my best at the moment. The outcomes are irrelevant, but the habit of giving your all to do what you believe to be the right thing helps me facing day after day without most of my old doubts.
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The earlier you have to face near-death challenges, you stronger you grow.
I'm not surprised to be alive, I just admire my young self to have through hard times and bad circonstances. It resulted in me having a deep inner feeling of resilience, I feel like I could life and survive anything. Only death could surprise me.
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Yes. I had a car accident. The car - totally destroyed, between some trees and on the roof. I had a banged up knee. I still have no idea how I walked out of that alive.
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Damn. Life is so fragile... too good you're here to tell what happened. I'm happy for you!
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where you driving? the steering wheel is a life saver though its hell on your head and rib cage.
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The road was wet as ... I lost control in a long right-hand turn and I just couldn't get the car under the control again. Was not even driving that fast. Everything happened so quickly that I hardly had a chance to react. Luckily I was driving alone and I did not hurt anyone else (be it passengers or other cars). Only paid for my own recklessness one would say.
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I've been in a similiar situation (although not as bad!) and it really put in perspective in what I look for in a car. Safety features are far more important in a vehicle then the way it looks.
Glad you came out there safely!
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Exactly. Safety first. This changed the way I drive and I think while driving so all in all it was for the better :)
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I wondered a lot about that already. Natural selection HATES me.
Now that I finally put my suicidal tendencies behind, I'm still amazed at how my own body hates me. It attacks itself.
I mean, that is just plainly crazy! I've been close to dying multiple times despite being in my early 20s... How the fuck am I still alive? xD Maybe I was meant to game until I grow old or something...
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That really sucks, but it sounds like you are a very strong person. You survived your suicidal tendencies and multiple life threatening conditions.
Sounds like you are telling death whose boss! :P
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I guess I abide by "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger". I definitely would not be the same if I hadn't known that much trouble :P
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I've never thought about it, but now that you mention it, I'm so unobservant and clumsy I'm surprised I've stayed so safe.
I've been in two life threatening situations (bad car accident and riptide) and in both I've been lucky. Still, thats just life I think. I'm 23 and I haven't had any medical issues yet and I've never been in the hospital for anything serious. Overall I think I've been pretty lucky
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When i was 4yo I ate a whole bunch of heart medicines of my grandma, thinking they were sweets. My heart collapsed and I went in coma for 2 weeks. I do wonder how can I be alive
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A couple of drug overdoses when I was much younger.
Been stabbed three times (twice by the same guy, though, trying to mug me).
Fell 40 feet from a faulty scaffold onto a concrete footing at work. Just broke a whole bunch of bones.
So yeah, once or twice. :P
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Yes.
After several attempts and the ongoing struggle to not try again, yes I'm suprised and somewhat saddened I'm still alive. Though less because I want to die and more because I simply don't want to exist anymore.
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It doesn't necessarily have to be anything to do with any past dangerous or difficult experience.
It's just... that, even if you're still young, you sometimes realize that you went through a ton of different experiences that, being good or bad, make you feel like you had enough for an entire life or even for two lives and that makes you surprised that you're still young enough to have even more, and you will have to deal with them.
Does anyone feel like that?
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