So basically, I'm kind of an oddball when it comes to strategy games. Most prominently, in the Homeworld, Xcom, and Fire emblem series.

The thing is, I tend to play these games to grind and build the armies more than to play them for the difficulty and strategy...

For instance:
Xcom - I delay as much as possible to grind and collect and build shit infinitely (or in 2's case, as long as I damn well can)

Homeworld - I find more joy in just fleet-balling everything on an easier difficulty and gathering resources to bolster my fleet as big as I can get it so I can watch the battles in epic scale.

Fire Emblem - I play fates and Awakening on normal/casual for hours grinding all the different skills/hoarding all the weapons I can, and not really caring about detailed strategy beyond "don't move to that space so the enemy can't hit you first" kind of a thing.

I tend to be a hoarder kind of player in most games (don't open any of my minecraft worlds...) and I'm kind of curious if there is actually a genre of game out there that has this kind of behavior intended, instead of a bad habit.

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^ This.
Tactical RPGs with insane level caps like Disgaea would be perfect.

Also check out the Fire Emblem Heroes on mobile, you'll be grinding for years xD

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I play Heroes on and off, mainly because I fear for my wallet should I get too invested.

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Just remember all the full 3* pulls you did in the past with the free orbs and you'll be fine. Or even better just think of 5 Bartres! xD
Although I understand the allure. Been hunting for a 3* Lon'qu ever since Skill Inheritance was implemented yet haven't gotten a single one! I'm quite tempted to purchase orbs for the first time but then I remember how ridiculously overpriced they are and stop myself. But my lobster needs Vantage 3 ;-;

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Yeah, but my luck has been too good. I have screenshots of several gold star pulls in one go, and in sucession (most recently I got Hector and Caeda gold stars, and in the session immediately after I got Azura gold...

I've almost broken out my wallet several times already, because streaks like that get you excited xD

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+1

Also if you have a PS2 or PS2 emulator, La Pucelle: Tactics, afaik it's from the same developers of Disgaea

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Don't have either of those sadly, but I'll take a look!

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Yknow.... I think I picked up that game at a gamestop ages ago... I'll go digging...

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No idea, but I remember doing the same thing back in the day with KKND Krossfire. The units just looked so damn cool that I kept playing against the easiest AI, built a huge army and when I maxed out everything I steamrolled the enemy only to do it all over. Never came across a game that actively supported or focused on this playstyle, though.

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sounds like fun xD

Thanks for your input anyway mate :P

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KKND2 Krossfire
Really difficult game to track down but their biggest tanks look really damn awesome.
I used to trap the enemy in their bases with tanks. The map with all the "pockets" around the edges was my favorite.

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I remember the first kknd when I was like 10. First time playing a game like that and I was very impressed.. our non existant video card or lack of drivers made the graphics majorly glitch out where you could barely see anything and could not read any text but I still wanted to play. My dad made me uninstall because he thought it was breaking the computer x.x

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Holy crap, you have the same playstyle as me. And here I thought I was the only one who was like that. :D
I had to quit XCOM: Enemy Unknown because the difficulty increased faster than to my liking (I much prefer grinding to my leisure before tackling hard missions, and this game doesn't allow that). Is XCOM 2 any better in that regard?

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it's even worse, you have a timer you can't stop forcing you to move

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Wow, fuck that.

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While it DOES have that.... it also has steam workshop...

and where there's a steam workshop... there's mods.

I honestly like 2 a lot better than one in most regards... except that all your weapons are upgraded instead of you buying individual ones.

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Thankfully there is a mod that removes timers. It makes 2 more enjoyable I would say.

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XCOM 2 introduced a round limit in a lot of missions. So even more pressure. ;-)

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Same here. I started a new game in Enemy Unknown 3 times and every time I was slightly better and more knowledgeable about what to do. So, in the end, I remembered to do the missions and it was pretty easy. I liked that easy feeling because I felt like I earned it.
As to XCOM 2, I just started playing it and I'm only one mission in. Already it's pretty tense. Not too bad, not too good. Knowing XCOM, it'll get worse. So.. you'll probably not like it.

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Oh, I forgot to mention, do you like RPG games? Because I can name quite a few which allows you to grind like crazy and tackle stronger enemies anytime you want.

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I do, I do!
(Preferably not JRPGs. CRPGs are fine sometimes. I prefer Fallout 3/NV and TES styled games.)

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then play Dark Souls.

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Eh, Dark Souls (from as much as I've played) never had interesting grinding.
I think it came down to that you had to just go back and forth, killing respawned enemies over and over again.
That's grinding, sure, but that's not interesting grinding. You never really get anything out of it, other than a bigger number to some skill.

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like Dank Souls? :P

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No grinding in Dark Souls as far as I remember. In fact, don't you lose some strength with every death?

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nope, you can grind souls to level up, and walk past the bosses.

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Huh. Didn't know that. Maybe I'll try the game again one of these days. :P

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You can grind souls ( = xp/money) and/or items by killing everything then going back to the bonfire.
You lose your "wallet" if you die, and you need to pick them up after your respawn, or it gets lost, but you keep your items regardless between lives.

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Huh, interesting. I'm kinda tempted to get back into the game, now. Although I really, really suck at it...

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I play a bunch, from Mario and luigi (the amount of times I've hit past the top tier in the later games is too many hours to fathom) and Bravely default/second didn't stand a chance to my grinding powers.

I'm a fan of turn-based combat, but not meter based (see Final fantasy e_e).

But yeah, name away and I'll check em out!

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Hmm, let's see. Aside from FPS/RPG games like Fallout or Borderlands (I loved Borderlands 2, personally) I enjoyed playing Hyperdimension Neptunia Re;Birth1, as it allowed to grind levels before continuing the game (and it doesn't punish you for doing so). Speaking of which, Hyperdimension Neptunia U: Action Unleashed is a hack and slash game, but again, grinding is one big part of the game and it doesn't hinder you with limitations to how much grinding you can do. I think that every IF games are probably similar.

You can technically grind in Valkyria Chronicles, but the process was too slow (and the game too hard) for me, but you could take a look at it if you want. Other than that, I enjoy preparing huge armies in Sid Meier's Civilization V to attack my neighbors. :P

I thought I knew more games like that, but now that I think of it, most games like this were flash games I played online, so... yeah. Short list.

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Thanks! I actually own Neptunia Re;Birth 1, (friend gifted it to me), didn't realize the potential it had till now o_o

I've always been intrigued by the Civ games, but I'm afraid of the time sinkholes xD

I'll also take a peek at Valkyria.

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Those clicker games where all you do is upgrade things:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/363970/

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While cookie clicker may have eaten my soul on a few occassions, I find the lack of things to do the biggest downfall for me on those games.

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How about something like Civ or Sim City? Age of Empires?
Or one of those survival games where you go upgrading through different tech levels.

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A long while ago I remember playing a sim city game for the Wii, maybe I'll look into a modern one.

Got any examples of those survival games? I remember having a lot of fun doing that sort of thing with modded minecraft.

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Thanks! I'll take a look at those games.

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I really like strategy games but I'm so bad at them that I don't play them much (unless they let me grind as much as I want before battles).
Maybe you should try Final Fantasy Tactics. It's similar to Fire Emblem

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FFT: war of the lions? Loved that game on the psp, but after so much grinding the game becomes so boring.
I grinded so much before cuchulain the impure (the first time i didnt save so i had to restart the whole game cuz it was too hard)
after grinding before cuchulain, I mostly went around capturing the chocobos (specially the red ones) and other monsters after that

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There is also FFT for PS1 and FFT Advanced for GBA. I played the latter one and loved it.

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idk, I played the GBA one and I loved it :)

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(somehow your comment was invisible to me o_O)

I've heard mention of that game before, I'll take a look, thanks!

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I think you are describing a turtle play style where you don't rush to attack the enemy, but build up a solid foundation then attack. I am the same. I suggest Ashes of the Singularity. If you watch gameplay videos, the game pace is slower than typical RtS games.

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I'll check it out! Thanks!

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I never felt the need to grind in Fire Emblem, but can't see any way it would impact the game really.

I would agrue that any rpg encourages hoarding items, and have areas you can go to grind

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The impact is watching some characters completely eliminate enemies and DLC missions like no tomorrow xD

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I know a lot of people that play strategy games just to build big armies. It's completely normal.
You should try Knights and Merchants: The Shattered Kingdom, even though it's old. (from 1998) You basically have to build an army from stratch and you basically do everything in a long chain. For example, to hire 1 axeman, you need to turn logs into planks, into axes. Turn pigs into leather into shirts. send civilians into a castle so they can learn to fight. With all of that you get 1 axeman. Most scenarios you need to build a whole army before fighting your enemies. The game is a grindfest. You barely fight. (there are only 1 mission that you only fight in the campaign IIRC.
99% of jrpg you have to grind too.

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Sounds interesting, I'll take a look at it when I get a chance. Thanks!

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It is a fun game, but be ready for the absolute worst pathfinding in any game ever created. When you build your central storage building, have at least six lanes of street in front of it for even a ghost of a chance for all the workers to not get stuck permanently.

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haha, noting that xD

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Steam keys for that game were free several times IIRC, maybe OP gets lucky. Following the same principle I can also recommend The Settlers II, my all time favourite video game. Settlers III nice too, starting with IV I didn't like it as much anymore.

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Ooh, I'll have to go hunting around then. I'll also take a look at those settlers games as well.

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If they are talking about Knights and Merchants historical version I've got a spare key for you, you can have.

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maybe the Anno series could be something for you. you kinda just grinding stuff until u got the biggest population possible

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I'll check it out then! Thank you!

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Captain, I have the perfect game for you... Planetbase
Steam link

Its a totally epic grindfest, managing people and materials with a space colony. Only threats to the base are
natural disasters which you can prepare for, and armed visitors here and there. Just lock the airlock and dont let them in :)

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Looks like fun! Thank you!

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It is, to win you must strive for a balance of personel. Growing food with Biologist is key, after 50 settlers you will need carry bots or the people will be unhappy having to carry everything around. Its a really fun game though :)

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Gotcha! Added this one to my wishlist :D

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I don't have any clue, but that's an interesting question :o

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Yeah, it's been bugging me for a while and I figured I'd ask it here since so many other gamers congregate here xD

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You pretty much need Factorio.

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I have it! I've been waiting to play it again until they push out their 1.0 version, which comes any week now...

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Umm, Tycoon games? I feel I have a similar behavior. In every 4X game, I concentrate on the economy and technology development.

And I love Tycoon games. Not a lot of this type is coming out nowadays, I think the last one for me was Tropico 4. But I hear Planet Coaster is very good, and lives up to the fame and success of the Rollercoaster Tycoon series, unlike the Rollercoaster Tycoon World shameful sequel (didn't try, just heard).

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I've never given those games much thought... maybe I'll take a look now xD

You should see me play sins of a solar empire... "Kill all the enemies? lemme just box them in somewhere with starbases while I create the perfect economy..."

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yeah tycoon and sim games, like SimCity and Cities Skylines, if you crave the sci-fi element the (hopefully) upcoming Aven Colony might be right up your alley

i'm like you i think, when i play strategy/RTS i tend to just build and develop stuff so i end up getting overrun by enemies that's focused on armies

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ooh! Thanks for bringing that game to my attention, I'll definitely keep my eye out for that one!

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If you don't already have it, one SoaSE is in humblebundle's tier 1 for 1$ :)
And yes, try out tycoon games - old games like Pharaoh was so much fun to build a bigger and bigger city, with minimum focus on fighting, but trading, trying to push city districts into higher tiers and such.
I had a very similar itch recently because of AoE2 and Fallout Shelter which are the two different sides of the spectrum, build to fight or oversimplified, and I'm still looking for a similarish game where I can build a lot, and my progression is mostly limited by me like in FO Shelter.
Maybe check out the Guild games - you pick a field/mastery, you get a little crafting shop in the city and manage it, get apprentices, make family, get into the city council, eliminate competition etc. Not really grindy in a way that you build monumental things, but planning and long-term strategy is the base of the game. - could fit you.
( + I don't know about AI, but Supreme Commander on easiest? It's a ridiculously over the top RTS with hordes of enemies and skyscraper sized units, could work! :D)

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Dude.... sins is where my hoarding shines xD

People play with me not because I'm good at the war or strategy, but because I feed them resources from my overpowered economy while they wreck shop and give me territory. It's the best.

I'll do some research on those game's you reccomend, thanks for your input! :)

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age of empires 2 man

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I'll take a look, thanks!

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What about building sims which are more of an economy strategies? Like Banished, Guild 2, ...

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I'll take a look. I still like some adversity, weather it be natural disasters or a troublesome army asking for some whoop-ass to be handed to them though xD

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Also check out Stronghold. I enjoyed the first game very much - you build walls and fortifications and defenses before the enemy comes and tries to break them down. Sadly, there are occasional attacking missions too which I hated.

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that sounds fun, I'll check that out as well!

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Banished with disasters turned on might be pretty good. Plus that game has a ton of mods.

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I'll check it out! Thanks!

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^^ Just made a comment about The Guild series as well, along with Pharaoh. They can be so good, peaceful yet challenging.

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Disgaea was mentioned but I have to mention it again. It seems like a perfect fit for you.

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Yeah, it really does now that I've seen the PC version on steam o_o

Still looking for the DS cartridge I swear I bought years ago though...

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I've owned the Disgaea games on multiple platforms and the DS port was by far the worst. If you have lost your DS cartridge then that is a good thing.

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i don't know the hate about the DS version in the fact that it lacks some audio and visual things the other things.
i myself am playing it for over 200+ hours and i'm super crazy grinding trying to get the best everything in the game. which is extremely hard sometimes.

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Sounds like fun! Thanks!

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I used to do this with Rise of Nations. I would edit the config file to allow a huge population, and also to stop at like the 4th or 5th age (instead of going to the "present day" where the oil showed up) and also to only allow certain victory conditions.

Then I'd build up a huge civilization, and only get into a battle when I had to -- usually because there was no more space for expansion of my civilization!

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That seems like a lot of fun xD

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Every Civ game, just keep researching technologies and building wonders on easy settings. Late game just drop the nukes or go for a science victory.

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Disgaea.

I know it was the first reply in this thread, but you seriously need to play it. It fits your playstyle perfectly.

Edit:
Final Fantasy Tactics and Tactics Ogre might please you as well.

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I think everyone should make a new line about Disgaea.

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H1Z1 maybe?

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SoaSE is awesome. My playstyle is just creating a map with 1000+ planets, 2-3 AI to go up against and the Halo/BSG/SG/ST mod if I am up for it. I also disables the limit on ship supply and the superweapons (seriously the 1 hit kill cannon of the humans and the other superweapons, meh).

I like to tech up hard, build up the trading and using my craftworlds to reinforce my two starbase frontier with endless lightships. When I finally reach another empires border I just set up a solid blockade, mobilizes my main battlefleet (all my capships with supporting craft), hammers the enemy with constant wolfpacks (10 ship squadron of frigates), kiting the enemy with wolfpacks to allow autoscouting and finally hammers down with massive grindfests where I steer almost all my ships manually and creates dances where in the battles I steer manually I only get 50% casualties in my suicide wolfpacks and 10% in my lightships.

When up against The Flood from Halo I just spams S-MACs and AA-frigates and hopes I got a few inner craftworlds to manage to either drive off the flood or to very slowly retreat (like delaying The Flood with too much cannonfodder and lose one planet every 3 hours instead of every 15 minutes).

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3000 hours on steam in SoaSE and 1000 hours in CIV V.

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+1 to those

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