Where would you play your games?
There's nothing wrong with it in my opinion, I didn't thought people would consider it. 😅
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Thought it was something else, since I've seen you blacklisted me. Unless you did long time ago. 😅
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It must have been for something else I did in the past. Either a thread or a giveaway I did. I appreciate telling me. I only asked because if I upset people, I would really like to revise my actions so I can do better in the future.
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Its the only legit way to buy games in Russia (almost) officially
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I can't buy games on Steam with external money (available wallet only), i can't buy on GOG, Ubisoft etc.
And yes, I'm always living in Russia
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I see, I am sorry to hear it. I personally have not understood why gamers from Russia had to be affected. I hope you are well there. How's the situation going in your country? if you're safe to speak, if not, I can understand.
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Nothing really different is happening. I don't own luxery yachts and houses on the coast of Mediterranian Sea so all these "hard" sanctions barelly affect a regular russians. We are banned from recieving some goods, some other goods have increased price. But there is still a good selection of goods and everyone can choose what they can or want to afford.
I don't feel myself as a victim. But now I can clearly see that sticking to a single platform (not about games only) is a bad idea and that can easily limit you in 1 click
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Yeah, but this is political really. I really don't understand why it's affecting a platform of entertainment. Although if there was no restrictions, then Steam and other platforms would be somewhat seen as evil or something. Any news that something is happening for your country that could potentially stop the conflict between Russia and Ukraine? Sorry, if I've brought this whole topic, but I've been somewhat curious about it.
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There is no and there can't be an easy solution that fits to both sides cause their interests are diametrically opposite
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Yeah, well please stay safe out there and my best wishes to you in your gaming experience! 😃
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Definitely GOG Galaxy 2.0. It is the best place to keep my games after Steam.
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It's such a great app, but I'd like them to improve it more and more. I like to have my games in one place 100%.
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bethesda launcher is dead this month :P if steam was gone, I would be done with gaming. so sick of all these stupid launchers. wish the rest would all die and roll into steam and gog.
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I don't have anything against them, but I feel your frustration. I'm not bothered if I have the game directly linked in Steam for some reason, but I hate gaming exclusively on another platform.
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I would see what everyone else is doing and transfer my games there, I guess. Ubisoft support is the worst I've experienced, so with that as an exception...
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😅 I do like some aspects of their platform, the leveling and having rewards for your games is pretty good and Steam should incorporate such a system if developers want to add.
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Yeah but every time I have an issue and contact support they want to see my drivers license, which is weird since it has no business or connection with my account.
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Idk what they want to do with it, but have you've tried to ask them what they need it for?
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Yes. "to verify my account."
I have not spoken to them since and I'm more likely to abandon my account than to try again.
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Yeah i agree. From game platforms definitely the worst support i experienced as well.
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Which are those? I won't tell anyone, I promise! 🤫
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really, i would crack my games that i bought or i would use myabandonware for classic games that aren't on sale anymore
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myabandonware is such an interesting website. I love it, although I never used it.
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Xbox PC and Cloud,console i don't care so much,i'm not big fan of them
i can buy an xbox console only if\when one day it become "Open" same the steamdeck (allow all stores\services + modular internal thumbsitck pcbs same as the steamdeck etc.) but right now sadly xbox is not (and playstation\nintendo too not)
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I see, that's very interesting that you've picked XBox, was it for the game-passes? 😁
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I'd likely do this as well. I get Xbox PC Game Pass free from MS Rewards, always earn more points than needed per month to renew sub, plus can redeem for Gift Cards on it too. Then GOG makes up for what may be missing.
Tho to be fair, I have a large library on most platforms. Those 2 would just be the ones I most commonly use, like right now it's Steam and Xbox.
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" always earn more points than needed per month to renew sub"
This for me is not possible,
the max i can do is around $10€ at month hehe that is not enough for renew sub (but i'm not USA,usa make + points i know..)
but yes i can accumulate 2 months for have 20 and then get games on deal at https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/deals/games/pc
that btw it's a very big help i get more "big" games on that (yakuza,quantum break,vodoo vince,ffix etc.)
And for me is work also to make 3 differents accounts and then "Gift" the game to myself from the second and third account to the main\first account,it's not possible for me to make more than 3 because i don't have life-time to dedicate to it.
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I know for me, although PC Game Pass in Canada is $12 a month, I can get it on rewards for 6800 points, despite a $5 Gift Card costing 4800 points. Without calculating daily streak rewards, or random promotional or event punch cards... I get about 6600 a month on average. So as long as I don't miss a day, I should be good to go every month.
In the end though, I won't always renew the PCGP, depends on whether or not I want to play something on it at that time. Recently it was just for Medieval Dynasty. If I'm just not in the mood to play anything on it at a given time, I'll not renew and save points for Gift Cards later for games since I'd rather own them outright. Right now I have over 17k points, prob not gonna renew next month, just continue to collect. That way I can also occasionally get the 3 months for $1 promos on it due to not being an active customer.
But yah, even if you can't get the Game Pass every month, getting games with so little effort is nice, Game Pass is more a now and then thing anyway.
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totally agree with you,is very big value,also is a good way to try games for know if is worth buy or not.
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Frankly I would be really sad.
Cause I only had the chance to get a pc less than 2 years ago. I am playing decade old game or at least planning on playing people's favorite old games. I would be in a very bad mood if steam closes.
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It would be the saddest day in gaming history really. 🙁 Luckily, that may never happen in our lifetime, let's hope it stays forever.
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This question comes up on Steam forums regularly although I find it hard to believe there wouldn't be a buyer for Steam - if for the sake of argument - Valve would go bankrupt.
I'd be forced to invest in a 100 Terabyte storage solution to install all my 13k Steam games locally. Playing them wouldn't be a problem as there exists a Steam emulator allowing to play every Steam game offline and a lot of games don't even use Steam DRM.
As a cautious consumer I already have a sizable library on GOG too so I wouldn't be without games even if Valves goes to hell in an instant.
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This question comes up on Steam forums regularly although I find it hard to believe there wouldn't be a buyer for Steam - if for the sake of argument - Valve would go bankrupt.
It's a question everyone asks themselves once in a while. I never checked there the threads, and we are blessed here with so many options for the poll it's crazy. 😄
I'd be forced to invest in a 100 Terabyte storage solution to install all my 13k Steam games locally. Playing them wouldn't be a problem as there exists a Steam emulator allowing to play every Steam game offline and a lot of games don't even use Steam DRM.
That's really smart. I've not thought about that. 🤩
As a cautious consumer I already have a sizable library on GOG too so I wouldn't be without games even if Valves goes to hell in an instant.
They'd have to blow it up somehow big time to hit bankruptcy. I doubt they would get themselves into serious issues. There's smart people working for the company. Besides, it would be a hard blow for PC gamers all over the world. It's like Android/Apple iOS or Windows/macOS/Linux would all the sudden stop functioning. 🤔
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This. As long as you have all your games installed locally, I imagine it wouldn't be too difficult to patch or crack the steam drm to allow all your games to be playable offline. The question is, would Valve give us enough heads up and time to make the transition? As long as it doesn't shut down instantly due to some unearthly crisis, I imagine the shutdown will be all over the news.
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GOG for old games, itch for indies. With those 2 even if Steam disappears tomorrow I probably have enough to play 10 hours a day till 2850.
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It's called Life's goes on. Do something different. And torrents will be forever.
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The only issue would be all the multiplayer lost games. 😥
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I am not playing multiplayer games = wasting time. And yeah, books, exercise, work and other outdoor activites - helps.
You can always play games via hamachi, garena and other apps that creates local network.
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Mix of GOG (mainly) and Ubisoft (a bit). With a dash of the first reply of this thread ;)
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I would be sad and then buy a mobile console. A nintendo DS or something like that. And cooking mama.
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Imagine how devastating that would be. No more Valve Index and no more Steam Deck. 😥
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GOG and Piracy.
F**k Epig Games store - shouldn't be a option to begin with
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We have to include all options here. Some people may not like Origin, Ubisoft Connect or Rockstar Games, but the option is there to begin with. 😃
Besides, there's still people wanting to use it and I don't have an issue with it, just that it's not my personal preference. Although I've got more games there than GOG, I'd never go for it for the simple fact that it's not as close to Steam as GOG is.
Btw, why do you hate the Epic so much? Something happened? 🤔
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The: "Shouldn't be a option to begin with"
Wasn't related to the poll - it was more related to the Gamers. Not a single gamer should click on EGS in the poll. I should've clarified that sorry :)
EGS is the plague of PC Gaming - absolute disease. Take Fortnite and Free games out of the store and it will vanish into oblivion because.. there are no features to begin with on that store anyways.
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The: "Shouldn't be a option to begin with"
Wasn't related to the poll - it was more related to the Gamers. Not a single gamer should click on EGS in the poll. I should've clarified that sorry :)
No harm done at all, everybody is free to express their opinion.
EGS is the plague of PC Gaming - absolute disease. Take Fortnite and Free games out of the store and it will vanish into oblivion because.. there are no features to begin with on that store anyways.
It's true that it lacks a lot of features Steam or GOG has, but would it be reasonable to hate it that much for it?
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Yes because of several other reasons:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2389975730
Check out this thread in order to get a small picture of what is going on. Check this out:
Epic Games founder Tim Sweeney his comparing his fight with a black person fighting for civil rights / getting treated as an equal:
Source:
https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1329135035073650688
That’s gotta be one of the most amazing false equivalency arguments ever made. A CEO of a billion dollar company claiming the fact he has to pay a store to distribute his product is like the fight for a black person to be treated as an equal human.
Check out the "FuckEpic" Reddit and inform yourself about the newest bullshittery EGS is doing:
https://www.reddit.com/r/fuckepic/
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Ouch, that video on the discussion just hit hard. 😅
Personally I am not affected, by Epic. I would not pick it for the same reasons that it doesn't offer enough features and now that you've offered more info, I can decide not to go for it unless that would be my last option.
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The Problem with EGS mainly is that it lacks several normal features even after all these years and takes away your choice on where you want to buy.
Just because you take the freebies you also support this behavior. Every visit on the store, every free game taken is a +1 for them and soon (maybe) your favorite franchise falls into the hands of EGS because they go to your favorite publisher with:
"Hey do you see this traffic? all these big numbers on our store? yeaaah here take the fortnite kids money and put your game exclusive here" and they accept.
The problem is lying exactly there. I don't support this no matter what and its steam or nothing for me. Thats my "home" and where my main library is. More infos:
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The Problem with EGS mainly is that it lacks several normal features even after all these years and takes away your choice on where you want to buy.
Just because you take the freebies you also support this behavior. Every visit on the store, every free game taken is a +1 for them and soon (maybe) your favorite franchise falls into the hands of EGS because they go to your favorite publisher with:"Hey do you see this traffic? all these big numbers on our store? yeaaah here take the fortnite kids money and put your game exclusive here" and they accept.
I can see what you mean, from a marketing perspective it makes sense. But mainly game devs are gamers too. Publishers probably too and they know Epic pretty much for what it is. The reason why they still go for it is that Steam charges a larger percentage off of sales. Although, Epic can't compete with the sales made on Steam. Even if the games are on Sales, overall, the developers make significantly a good amount of money even over years.
I also want my PC games in one spot. I appreciate GOG doing the GOG Galaxy, but it's still not directly Steam, so I'm only using it to activate free games I won for GOG, like for Epic.
Let me ask you this? What if Epic would eventually implement the things people want? And really take a more positive outlook and favor gamer consumer? Would gamers, including yourself, consider going for it? Try to think deeply about this question and don't use your bias thoughts about it. I'd say, most people would, if they actually gave the gamers what they are used to. Steam and GOG already got it. It's up to Epic to stop being so egoistic and do it.
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"What if Epic would eventually implement the things people want? And really take a more positive outlook and favor gamer consumer? Would gamers, including yourself, consider going for it?"
→ I personally wouldn't because of several other reasons. Even if Epic would implement all bare-bones Store Features and would make all the features people want from Steam - there are other things I would consider as well:
- Epic is still doing business with Russian (as of now) + China
- They are partially (40%) owned by Tencent who is known for selling user data, China social credit and oppression
- They are still taking away YOUR CHOICE on where you want to buy (exclusive contracts). If my butcher shop one day says: "Yo sorry your favorite meat is now exclusive to that bakery shop there" I would say: What??? Why?
It's like me asking: Where you want to play you game? In your gaming room or in my? You would obviously say on your most beloved home and Steam is exactly that for me. Steam is my main library, everything I currently need and I dont want another store front in where my games are. You are also not collection physical copys of videogames and store them in seperate rooms am I right? Thats exactly what all the launchers are compared to physical storage in your flat. - They are also investing in NFTs and say they're good even though everyone knows they suck
and despite all that: Steam is not taking 30% for most publishers anymore:
https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/30/18120577/valve-steam-game-marketplace-revenue-split-new-rules-competition
Games like Cyberpunk already tweeted MONTHS ago that they get 80% off of Cyberpunk.
80% off of my purchase is still 80% while on EGS its 0. If you, as a publisher, prefer way lower sales and 0% from me fine. I always can start my torrent launcher if I want to. They don't need that one little purchase anyways when they took the fortnite bribe money and since tim sweeney already paid for my copy why should I?
Why not compete naturally by lowering price? Like apple and android is doing but instead they take away all sort of competition because they take a game hostage in their own launcher. Nobody is competing there because its only available there and that is the worst "competition" and also anti-consumer.
No thanks.
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Seems like an good argument.
I agree, I don't fancy NFT's and moving boat to another platform once I've established my ecosystem in one place. I never had an iPhone before, but I can see how Apple users feel the need to stay in the same loop. A lot of the things they are used to is like us with Steam.
Although, for me Steam is a lot better when it comes to pricing and how it offers stuff to players. Apple on the other hand feels like it's overcharging their consumers a lot too much, although they are great phones nonetheless.
Anyway, what I'm trying to say, if they would drop those things and no longer be part of Tencent and follow in the steps of Steam, I'd think they would probably get the respect they seek.
I'm also glad that Steam pays the developers better now. I've not read about it yet, but it's the right approach.
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Reasonable choice. If PC would cease to exist, I would do too.
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I would switch to gog, ubisoft, origin, epic, itch... And don't play games there instead of not playing games on steam...
Seriously-my backlog on other platforms is as big as this one on steam (not to mention cds and dvd's). Hell - I even have some games on tapes for C-64... and I don't have C-64 anymore xD
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It would be a lot of work to get all the games backed up. 😱
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Not sure if there is a reason to back up everything though.
Maybe I have more than 2k games on different platforms... But how many of them are worth replaying? Or worth to show them to next generation?
Not to mention, that it's gonna be harder and harder to run them on newer computers and systems.
I suppose, that without "legacy" PC - playing half of my favourite games in 20 years would require to either buy new remastered version, or download half illegal emulator (just like right now with games that are not longer supported and you can't play them anywhere but still are copyrighted...)
In case that steam would case to exist I would probably back-up couple of titles and ignore rest of them.
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Not sure if there is a reason to back up everything though.
Maybe I have more than 2k games on different platforms... But how many of them are worth replaying? Or worth to show them to next generation?
Not to mention, that it's gonna be harder and harder to run them on newer computers and systems.
True, but technology catches up somehow. I can see that Windows is still trying to play games from the 90s and early 2000.
I suppose, that without "legacy" PC - playing half of my favourite games in 20 years would require to either buy new remastered version, or download half illegal emulator (just like right now with games that are not longer supported and you can't play them anywhere but still are copyrighted...)
For me, a remastered or remade version of a game is probably the best thing that ever happens to gaming industry. It brings back memories and makes me play games I've listed for playing and haven't had the chance because of my stupid large backlog.
In case that steam would case to exist I would probably back-up couple of titles and ignore rest of them.
Who knows what would happen with a lot of gamers. I think the old-school ones would retire from gaming all together.
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I already play everywhere, so Steam not existing is just one less place to play. Although I would lose more than half of the games I own since I prefer the Steam ecosystem whenever I'm given a choice because it's well integrated into any game-centric app or website I want to use. The others, not so much. As for where I'd buy my games, it would be the place with the best sales or wherever bundles take me. After a while, I'd probably be more inclined to go with the most popular choice if given the choice because it will probably be better integrated than others.
Edit: oh, missed the "move" option. If I could move my steam games to my Nintendo Switch, that would be some serious magic. And since we're talking magic, I'll assume they'll run just as well as they do on PC, so yeah, Nintendo would be the most versatile choice.
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I already play everywhere, so Steam not existing is just one less place to play. Although I would lose more than half of the games I own since I prefer the Steam ecosystem whenever I'm given a choice because it's well integrated into any game-centric app or website I want to use. The others, not so much. As for where I'd buy my games, it would be the place with the best sales or wherever bundles take me. After a while, I'd probably be more inclined to go with the most popular choice if given the choice because it will probably be better integrated than others.
Probably the main reason why most of people prefer Steam is because they have been kinda smoothly driven towards Steam due to the features, community and bundles and deals really.
Edit: oh, missed the "move" option. If I could move my steam games to my Nintendo Switch, that would be some serious magic. And since we're talking magic, I'll assume they'll run just as well as they do on PC, so yeah, Nintendo would be the most versatile choice.
You could call it then Nintendo Deck or Steam Switch. 🤣
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I'd go and still not play my massive Epic Library.
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🤣🤣🤣 I don't know if Epic will ever get to recover in the image of the gamers.
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What would be one thing you'd probably spend more time doing?
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Piracy, unless something so terrible happens to humanity that makes gaming completely irrrelevant, I trust Steam to outlive me and if it ever dies before me I will never buy another game again.
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I hope Gabe lives a long and good life and Steam only changes for the better once he is gone.
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I should have considered that as an option in the poll 😅
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Then it would be a nice day for piratin ain'it? Hu ha!
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I would have enough free time to achieve my goal of outrunning a hippo
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Come to think of it, can you imagine what our lives would be without gaming at all? Dear God, I think the'd be not enough room for successful people. 🤣
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No need to go exclusive. About half of the above would be my islands while I sail the high seas. Better question is if EGS goes belly up, will I bother to fetch my peg leg and parrot?
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It's surprises me how many would turn back to piracy if that would be the case. It seems that Steam has kinda made gamers respect and appreciate games and pay for them because they like to own them.
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Hi,
Where would you store your games and play from if Valve decided to no shutdown Steam? But before that, they would allow you to move all your games there.
A lot of options, I know, but what would be your number one platform where you'd horde your games if you had the chance to do the transfer?
Personally, GOG would be my first go-to. It's the closest we can get to Steam, as there are reviews and achievements I think and it's on PC still.
Other is for those who want to mention something I missed. 😅
Have a good day!
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