When eating breakfast I was watching this video of the game War Truck Simulator. It's a broken mess of a game. The game currently sits at "mostly positive" reviews on steam, hence the name of the video.

The developer of that game currently has 4 games on steam, War Truck Simulator, Rover the Dragon Slayer, Tower Defense Ultimate & MTB Downhill Simulator

Look at the positive reviews for those (at least the ones in English). A large portion of them will be by the same bunch of people, giving all 4 games positive reviews.

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Some of their games are back on steam, but under a new appID. They've promised keys for the new version of their games to anyone who contacts them, and who already has the old game. So make of that what you will, but in case what they say is true, and they've fired the old employee who made those fake reviews, it might be worth a try.

On the other hand, they've also forcefully deleted old screenshots, for "breaking the community guidelines", and that's something that can put someone's account at risk, and makes it so that you can't upload user generated content. This screenshot by Tewam was removed with that justification, with a warning about him not being allowed to upload new user generated content to steam for a while.

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Fnord aka Eagle-eye

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I'm getting fairly used to noticing barely working walking simulators thrown together from stock unity assets touted as early access survival games or some such when clearly the developers have no plan or ability to ever make anything like that happen - but that somehow still have mostly positive reviews...

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With early access games, you do get people who give positive reviews to bad games simply based on if they think the game has any "potential", even if the game is utter garbage in its current state, and that tend to inflate their review score quite a bit.

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I'll admit early access game reviews overall are affected by people who think it is rude to criticise an unfinished product and also people who are just really really optimistic. But I feel there is still a growing pattern of 'early access' trash where all recent reviews amount to "DON'T BUY THIS SCAMWARE" but the game still has 'mostly positive' reviews overall due to all the generic glowing references from a batch of 'usual suspects' immediately after release. But I'm sure that is all just a coincidence rather than any kind of organised scam involving unethical groups, free keys, card farming, etc...

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It's a lot harder to prove that there's anything organized going on, but there seems to be a degree of nationalism involved in steam reviews these days. I've seen plenty of bad early access games from Russian developers, who seem to get positive reviews from legitimate users from Russia (it's not a problem unique to Russian-developed games, it just seems to be more common among those). Early access reviews are indeed very problematic, and not at all trustworthy, but it's harder to tell exactly how organized it is in general.

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Nerd³ insults 17 million people in the first 3 minutes of the video :(

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And you're currently insulting 80. And that's our thing :D

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Wow! Not even a blacklist for that? You have my respect Sir.

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Keep in mind that I'm austrian not german ;) That's why I jokingly said insulting Germany is our thing.
Also if I remember correctly we had a nice conversation about Assassins Creed (if you're the Templar enthusiast who used to have a Templar cross as an avatar) so even if you did vaguely insult my country I wouldn't blacklist you for it. After all we ARE assholes... it's just part of our unique charm :D

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Yep, that's me ;) Nice of you to remember, I forgot all about that. have a whitelist for that ;)

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Man he sounds quite annoying

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Some of his videos are actually very entertaining.

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I have reached the point where I don't take reviews of newly released games into account when trying to judge the quality of a product. I realized I'm taking it as granted that all (or most) of those reviews are reviews that were made by people who got a review copy of the game and hence upvote it. If you wait a while it gets clear all the time when "real" reviews start to show up.

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Indeed - waiting for more reviews, and always checking the negative reviews, as it filters out fanboys and manipulated reviews, and the commonly reoccurring problems indicate a real problem :)

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Yeah, its better to check negative reviews for more info since positive ones often get drowned thanks to stupid oneliners ..

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This is actually one reason where I try to play newly released indie games that I get ASAP. I want to get my foot in the door and put up an honest review for people who are uncertain of whether it is worth buying or not. I've had both positive and negative reviews for that reason. It is a shame that so many reviews are phoned in for the sake of inflating scores, because it really can make a difference on who buys these games and who doesn't.

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so what else is new?
Just so you know, this happens in every industry, from paid endorsements to payola radio, to regular magazine reviews.

I used to write reviews for a crappy local paper years ago, and we'd get free tickets from the local cinema. Because we wanted to keep getting free tickets so we could keep writing reviews, everything had to have a positive spin. On a scale from 1-5, 5 meant it was good, 4 meant it was mediocre, 3 meant it sucked, and 1 or 2 didn't exist

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It's not anything new, and that's the really sad part. But the day we stop calling out companies on their bad practices because it's normal is the day we give them a free pass to keep doing it.

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There is a Steam group that aims to monitor this kind of thing and call out developers that engage in anti-consumer practices, through a curator list. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/acpreport. If you've got good sources, they would probably look into it and maybe list them.

As someone said, Steam doesn't seem to do anything about this, so it's up to us.

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Wrote a small report there.

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That is a horrible attitude to have.

"Well people have been doing it for awhile, so there's no reason to question it."

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I never said there's no need to question it, I'm just saying that it's been going on forever and a day.

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Haha, in that case maybe avoid opening sentences like, "so what else is new." Which, quite understandably, comes off as abrasive, argumentative, and dismissive.

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I just meant it factually, not flippantly (though I see how it got taken as such)
Admittedly, I am a bit of a cynic, but that's just because I've seen the inner workings of these kinds of things

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The problem isn't finding this type of behaviour, it's what they are willing to do about it.

If they just remove the reviews and do nothing else, that sends the message to devs like this that it's something worth trying. However if they punish the developer, they open the door for someone else to review-bomb a game and have the devs pay for it.

Unless they actually created fake accounts (using the same IP or computers) leaving hard evidence that it's them doing it... then it's not so easy to fix the problem.

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Where there's smoke, there's fire.

Also another source on SG

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Ah, good to see another source, and a better confirmation of what's going on.

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Also I've gone and looked at those English positive reviews and I really think you're right.

And what's going on here I have seen posted on SG about other Steam game reviews.

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The melee attack / weaponswing animation is eerily similar to Magicka's

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I'm curious what it needs to happen so Valve realizes the shit is going on on it's own platform, like with the gambling.

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Someone suing them over lost revenue or false advertising, preferably in the US, and alerting the gaming media about it, which in return carries the story as loud as it can.
In which, Valve responds by either removing the review system or appointing certified curators which turn the entire system into their own little domain, ruining the little good what was left of it; or letting developers delete any review they want, making Steam the happiest place on the internet, where all games are at around 98% ratings.

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I also noticed this too in many recently released games on Steam since the past month. And now that I'm more aware of it, I've noticed that it seems to be a very common practice, which is sad and also dishonest. Many games of doubtful quality appearing with dozens of good reviews on day 1, almost at the same time of release, and all those with hidden reviews, and days later, finally appearing public reviews but most of them all negative. So I stopped believing in what I read in the Steam user reviews section and in the average too, because clearly they can be easily manipulated using fake/secondary accounts to post privated good reviews to affect the overall.

At least, I have always done a little research in different places over the net and never in just one place before purchasing a game, and that have saved me many times over the past years of purchasing something I would regret later.

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Lol got deleted 11 month later

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Better late than never, I guess.

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RIP Steam shovelware dev #740

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Who does even care about these shitty games?! Are there REALLY people buying these?

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Just look at how well all these non-joke "Simulator" games sell, like Bus simulator and . There seems to be quite a market for these kinds of games.

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Probably people farming cards, if they don't get them from mass shovelware giveaways.

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The only "low tier" Simulator that sells and it's pretty good tbh is ETS2. There is like 1 every year which is playable and nice and then they release 80+ more that are crap! Jeez steam would be more nice with a more strict policy on what they sell

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Eurotruck Simulator is not the only one that sells, Farming Simulator sells really well as well (and is considered to be among the best of its kind).

And then we have companies like United Independent Entertainment which tries to piggyback on the success of games like Eurotruck Simulator and Farming Simulator. Their games might be crap, but they seem to work more like mockbusters. Now imagine of they had good reviews, they might really start fooling people.

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Mockulator? :P

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Wow, thanks for the heads up. Also, I'm surprised my thread got mentioned, there has to have been others who noticed it as well.

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+6000 games released on steam in 2017, Valve = profitz, Valve ≠ quality 😥
and one of the Dev4play "devs" still with community ban for different reasons xD

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thanks for the update ...
let's see how many dead are raising from the graves.

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If life of black tiger managed to get on the ps4, everything is possible on steam.

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Huh i have 3 of their games before they got removed, but the new ones don't show up as recognized, gonna be confusing, here too with giveaways.

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Indeed. The developer has stated that they're providing keys for the new versions if you contact them, and already have the old version, and I guess a bunch of people will do that to farm CV...

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