How do I change my Steamtrades name? (This is my chance to own "Zomby" on one of the sites at least)
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Where do you see your name on the ST profile? I don't see mine at all, unless I go into a trade thread. Seems weird.
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But it still uses some name for the threads and when you leave feedback.
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Yeah, that's weird. Looks like it uses the SG name? But can someone log in to ST without being a member on SG? What would their username be in that case?
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Those should be removed.
Remove reviews that...
- Do not sufficiently describe their trading experience, but rely on general statements (e.g. "Scammer", "-Rep", "Bad Trader").
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I agree about the uneasy feeling. The guidelines clearly say we're supposed to downvote those feedbacks that don't provide any evidence, but I'm not sure I'm comfortable with that. I would have no problem if some site-approved system deleted such reviews, so as to ensure consistency in the system, but putting that off onto end-users doesn't seem right to me.
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Yeah, looking at the way it's set up there's absolutely no context to determine if it's a legit report.
Looking at the false negative I received, someone could not determine if it's real or fake under that system.
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The feedbacks shown to me in "Vote on Reviews" have to be some kind of test, right? They're couldn't be real, I mean, they're so obvious in mimicking the guidelines. And real feedbacks just don't look like that...
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People who got a permanent suspension are still permanent banned in the new SteamTrades? And how they look like in their SteamTrade profile?
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Our database is now separate from our sister site, SteamGifts. Users with previous trades or reputation have been automatically moved to our new site. However, with separate databases, this will mean usernames on SteamTrades may differ from those on SteamGifts, and suspensions on one site do not affect usage on the other. For that reason, profiles on SteamTrades link to Steam IDs, rather than usernames to help avoid confusion.
Anyone who was permanently banned on SteamGifts is not on SteamTrades and you can go to their profile using their SteamID.
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testing the voting feature right now - i am blown away by the high percentage of low quality feedback.
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I'm voting on reviews currently. Most negative feedback comments are like: "He -rep me without any reason", "F*ck off", "Scammer", "Called me blah blah blah". xD
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I love the new visual. When is that coming to SteamGifts?
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Dear TempeteJoachim, please help me with something. :/
I have a question!
You're saying to allow reviews that explain the reasoning behind their negative trading experience.
That's too generic though! Even if they have traded and everything went well, if they leave negative feedback saying that the other person was impolite and explain why, then we can allow this feedback?
I would be thankful if you would answer my question. :)
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According to Rinarin it is not ok :
https://www.steamtrades.com/trade/af3y1/misuse-of-feedback-impersonators-alert
Feedback should NOT be used for :
- Comments such as "rude", "lowballer", "regifter" and so on. This is trade and not attitude related feedback.
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So, I can only accept reviews about scammers (edit: oh, impersonators too)? I don't see how else to accept negative feedback then! Also, I see many negative feedbacks being like "scammer - (steamrep link here)" and the guy is indeed reported for fraud on steamrep. I can accept these reviews too, even though they only show a steamrep link and say that the other guy is a scammer? This my last question. Thanks in advance. :D
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Yes, basically it should be used when one party fulfilled his part of the trade and the other party didn't follow through.
A SR link is fine if the contents of the report would constitute a valid negative review here.
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Great. So I've been correct all along during voting. You're really helpful. Thanks a lot. :D
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I think he means search by trade title instead of by have / want.
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I think he's asking about the search box that looked through the thread's titles. That on'es gone.
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i even cant ubderstand what its search, some useless information
i need to search, which will search in name of topic like in every vebsite
example: someone sell BTA1 from HB and he dont want to create all list of games. how to find it?
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Ah, I don't know why the search for titles is missing. You'll have to wait for a reply from cg, I don't know if there's a reason or he just forgot it.
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yeah, chiming in.
bring back that search button (that searches inside a trade thread)
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Its a neat and nice design with a lot of useful information at the ready.
Also it's intuitive, I like it even when I don't trade anymore. :3
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Voting is fun ^^ I'm amazed by the sheer number of useless feedback and also like that there is some kind of guideline which we can follow. It will be a slow process but this way we may have some kind of quality and reliable feedback in the far away future.
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Please make "search" back like before. :|
or add to find anything about keyword
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vote on reviews
ok, 1st review:
scammer
next
scammed me for a gta 5 key don't trade!
next
scam!
next
*insert random insults and multiply them by 40*
i don't know why we have an "allow" button.
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"..."
"nub"
"I agree with the guy above"
"spammer"
"ban him because he makes too many trade posts"
XD
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"one of those..."
Oh yeah, that's perfectly clear.
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Only a handful of reports are valid describe the whole trade and say "I gave him blah blah and he didn't give me blah blah". Even fewer have actual proof. We don't need full proof to allow it, right? o.O
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No, basically we're just weeding out the crap comments from the legitimate-looking report.
It will still be up to support to handle wrongful accusations I guess.
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A guy said below:
I'm kind of confused what qualifies under "Explain the reasoning behind their negative trading experience". For example, I just saw these:
"Scammer. Don't trade with him. He stole my Assassin's Creed 3 and wanted ANOTHER one."
"This guy is a scammer, he took the game and did not pay"
By the most generous definition, those both explain the reasoning behind leaving the negative rep, but there's no proof or further details, are those legitimate negative rep examples or not?
So, can we allow reviews like these ones? I would allow the first one, since it actually says that the guy stole Assassin's Creed 3 and asked for another key, probably saying that it's not working or it's duplicate. The second one doesn't say anything to describe the trade, so how is it any different from the generic "scammer" reviews?
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Those two I would allow because there's at least some kind of explanation, even if it's not very detailed.
I've been skipping quite a lot of them though because I'm on the fence about whether it's actually helpful or not. Still, it's easy to remove all the "rude", "lowball offers", etc..
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I disagree though. If they don't even say anything about the games traded, then what's the difference of "scammer" with "he scammed me from my game and went offline"? They're the same thing. Example:
1) "Scammer"
2) "He scammed me from my game"
3) "He scammed me from my game and he didn't give me what he promised"
The first one is a completely generic comment that you wouldn't allow. What about the 2nd one? Isn't it generic too? It looks a lot like the first one, is that correct? So, you wouldn't allow that too. What about the 3rd one? It's just like the 2nd one, but he also says he didn't give him the key he promised. But that's obviously what the 2nd guy obviously meant. So, would you allow the review of the 3rd guy, but not the review of the 2nd guy? You see what I mean now? I consider all 3 of them too generic.
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yeah ... those are worthless, surprised i haven't seen any ascii-genitals thought those were popular for negative feedback lol
only way to make sense of those is guess the credibility of both parties (works 95% of the time)
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I got something like that too, but the photo's link wasn't working and the steamrep profile was clean. ;_;
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Snifff, 55 reviews and I have only allowed around 2-3. ;_;
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I'm kind of confused what qualifies under "Explain the reasoning behind their negative trading experience". For example, I just saw these:
"Scammer. Don't trade with him. He stole my Assassin's Creed 3 and wanted ANOTHER one."
"This guy is a scammer, he took the game and did not pay"
By the most generous definition, those both explain the reasoning behind leaving the negative rep, but there's no proof or further details, are those legitimate negative rep examples or not?
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First of all, we can only allow reviews about scammers and impersonators. I don't think though that we need full proof to allow it, since we're not steamrep. As long as he describes what happened in the trade, then it's ok. Just a simple "scammer" isn't a reason. Even a "scammed me from my game" isn't allowed, I suppose. But "I gave him Homefront and he didn't give me GTA IV as he promised" can be a valid review, in my opinion. They just need to describe what happened. :/
Still, I hope that a support member will answer too. xD
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what about....
Gave him key and Ran
lol... the scammer leaving a rep and explaining what he did? :P
obviously remove, just found that one funny as hell
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Heh, he probably meant that the other guy ran away. :P
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Also, I would allow the first one, since it actually says that the guy stole Assassin's Creed 3 and asked for another key, probably saying that it's not working or it's duplicate. The second one doesn't say anything to describe the trade, so how is it any different from the generic "scammer" reviews?
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Well "he took the key and did not pay" is an explanation of some sort (they presumably agreed on a trade, he sent the key and then the other party took it and didn't pay/trade back), whereas "scammer" is definitely not. Whether it's a good explanation is another matter.
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1) "Scammer"
2) "He scammed me from my game"
3) "He scammed me from my game and he didn't give me what he promised"
The first one is a completely generic comment that you wouldn't allow. What about the 2nd one? Isn't it generic too? It looks a lot like the first one, is that correct? So, you wouldn't allow that too. What about the 3rd one? It's just like the 2nd one, but he also says he didn't give him the key he promised. But that's obviously what the 2nd guy obviously meant. So, would you allow the review of the 3rd guy, but not the review of the 2nd guy? You see what I mean now? I consider all 3 of them too generic.
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Pretty much the same + few racists assholes towards cis/ru peeps. Now I know why support never touched trade tickets.
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NOW I know why support never touched trade tickets.
Exactly. It's a cesspool of mostly nonsense, and this is really the only way to weed a lot of it out in an efficient manner.
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Now I know why support never touched trade tickets.
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i can skip that list all day long, but think its never end
Scammer. Attempted to trick me to think that his Fallout 3 is a GOTY one. Very dishonest person. BEWARE. ---rep
really untrutfull trader :|
I advise you not to talk with this man, he is bitch
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198024347171
http://rghost.ru/37480513.view
scammer tells me without your game
racsist idiot dont trade whith him
Scammer Alert. Don't wanna use middleman!
I am you do not cheating. You exchanged freely with me. you are a liar
Can you be serious?, leaving me negative feedback for that lol. Youmadbro?
scammed me for MW3
Paypal scammer!
CARDER!
Scammer alert! NEVER TRADE WITH THIS DUCHEBAG!!
lol
Spam.
scammer scammed me -_-
Yes.. You are Loser! NOt more! Good day!
Scammer!! Stay Away
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Question!
You're saying to allow reviews that explain the reasoning behind their negative trading experience.
That's too generic though! Even if they have traded and everything went well, if they leave negative feedback saying that the other person was impolite and explain why, then we can allow this feedback?
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I wrote in "Search reputation" my vanity name and I get wrong redirect
Example:
write: marsun
result: marsu
Why ignored the last symbol?
And In Threads I miss "Last >>" button. I love this button.
And why while still exist "<< First" button?
Permalink in history not worked for me, coz I have 40 pages thread, but already I have only 20.
(25 main posts on page in past, 50 main posts now)
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Search has been fixed, 'marsun' should work as expected now.
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Thx a lot.
Want "Vanity name" on SteamTrades profile page too. pls
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That's probably on purpose. They don't want any confusion between the two. They are distinct and separate now, in the truest sense.
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Holy cow ... now i get why the voting system was implemented - wth so many negative feedbacks (1 / 2 word ones + ones that shouldn't go into trade feedback to begin with). Utterly useless without being able to check on both users accessing their "approximate credibility" which works most of the time. Unfortunately even more specific ones are hard/impossible to access without proof links/logs ... the usual.
Other than that - looks darn fancy (sleek & stylish) > great jobbu. As for the search function - works well enough for my needs.
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Wow, it really looks good. So many tools available to the user, there's no excuse to get scammed! Thank you again CG for your incredible work you've put into this!
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Yes, this also. I wish the general search (topic titles only) hadn't been removed.
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My biggest grievance comes from game with simple/generic names. Try searching for Solstice ;_;.
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I see what you mean. Would be nice if they would support something like
"Solstice" -Red as a search term.
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Mhmm. I came across this problem when trying to find games that have been superseded by goty/Remastered versions. There is a vast difference in price between Caribbean! and Blood & Gold: Caribbean! :/.
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I think legibility on the main page is reduced due to the slightly darker background colour making the separators between individual topics less visible. I find the older colour scheme more user friendly.
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The "vote" for negative reviews is useless if you don't know the context of the trade, there might be a legitimate negative review that isn't detailed but it looks as if its a driveby negative review
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Hi, its possible that im getting the same "review to review" twice or more times? Or is just the destiny.
Also, if you see some pictures of people you could see that some reviews are from more than 3 years ago, maybe that doesnt matter but now you know :D
If you dont know which reviews you should accept , just limit to accept reviews with photos and some info about the scammer.
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Personally I don't like that Messages in notifications are a separate thing, now I have to check constantly 2 different sites.
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Hi SG, we're rolling out some updates to our trade section in the next 24 hours. These changes are mostly geared towards the separation of trades to SteamTrades.com, and improving on the feedback system. No major changes to the core of the trading system are happening in this particular update and the site will still maintain the familiar discussion based format. However, like most users, I'd like to see improvements in that area in the near future. Below is the upcoming announcement to be listed on SteamTrades.com, highlighting some of the more noteworthy changes.
User Reputation for All Steam Users
To help SteamTrades continue to grow as a leader in Steam user reputation, our site now allows reputation to be written for every individual with a Steam account. To leave a review for a user, simply visit our homepage and search for a Steam user using their Steam ID, Steam vanity name, or Steam profile URL. Once forwarded to their SteamTrades profile, you'll see an input box at the bottom of their profile allowing you to leave a review regarding your trading experience together.
Replies to Negative Reviews
If a user has left a negative review on your profile, SteamTrades now allows you to write a public reply to their review. This way you can better inform users visiting your profile about why that review exists, and at the same time it provides you with an opportunity to share additional details the user might have excluded from their review. Below a negative review on your profile you'll see a Reply button, which you can click to add your reply. Please note, replies are only available for negative reviews.
Negative Review Voting
To help improve the quality of negative reviews and to help remove negative reviews that do not meet our standards, we added a voting page, where users can vote on negative reviews from others in the community. Using the guidelines listed, users can vote on whether a negative review should be allowed, or whether it should be removed from our site. Reviews will be automatically removed if decided on by the community.
User Profiles and Safety Check
User profiles now contain a safety check. This data is updated hourly, and helps you to be aware of any Steam infractions a user may have against their account (such as VAC or game bans). As well, user profiles show when a user registered on Steam, when they were last logged into Steam, their Steam level, and their game count (if their Steam account is public). Combined with our user reviews, this data can help you better determine a user's overall reputation before trading.
Design and Interface
Our entire site has been redesigned and recoded with a wide variety of improvements. The changes allows for quicker replies, and overall faster load times. Our database is now separate from our sister site, SteamGifts. Users with previous trades or reputation have been automatically moved to our new site. However, with separate databases, this will mean usernames on SteamTrades may differ from those on SteamGifts, and suspensions on one site do not affect usage on the other. For that reason, profiles on SteamTrades link to Steam IDs, rather than usernames to help avoid confusion.
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